Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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River Tam wrote:
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The first 4 only exist in your head.
Aliens as a term is subjective.
The next two are being studied.
Please, go on.
BTW - science can't detect black holes or dark matter.....

Just sayin...

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Mar 12, 2013
 
A jackass! It's a jackass that you worship right?
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I don't know, what form does an omnipresent being take?

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Mar 12, 2013
 
......... Well...... I......... Never mind, Dave you are a senile fckwit.
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Polly, I understand physics pretty well. But there is a difference between your physics and mine. Yours is a study of number relationships, mine is a study of processes and interaction. Mine turns into intuition, yours is staring at a chalkboard. If the need arises for a quick fix to keep surviving, which do you think would likely survive?

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Mar 12, 2013
 
You deem God as worthless?

I agree. Imaginary friends are best left for children.
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Godd. Then I hereby deem you worthless.

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Mar 12, 2013
 
http://lightyears.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/05/tw...

You're braying like a jackass....
Just saying.
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BTW - science can't detect black holes or dark matter.....
Just sayin...

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Mar 12, 2013
 
ChristineM wrote:
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I donít take sofpedia as a source but thanks anyway, It does say what I already knew, I am particularly good at what I do (3D artist and animator) because I am Dyslexic and so more spatially aware than average.
I was not diagnosed until I was 14 and prescribed tinted/prismatic glasses. The day I received them a new world opened, letters came together to make words and I began reading avidly (still do), went on to college, then uni, opened a business (with my husband) that is still small but successful and international.
I hope you have a handle on it, it can be a problem when faced with people who donít understand. Itís the reason I am not christian, when I was a child the congregation at my church, even the minister ridiculed me. I saw the minister a couple of years ago, he tracked me down after 30 years to apologise. Nice of him really and being as cynical as I am I suppose it now helps him sleep at night.
Even today in this supposedly enlightened age there are a few people who love to mock disability, no matter what that disability is, funnily enough I still find that itís christians (or claimed christians) who seem to get most enjoyment from displaying such disdain.
So, are these Christians you like to mock and disdain, are they dumb and disabled as you were, or just inherently evil?

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Mar 12, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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BTW - science can't detect black holes or dark matter.....
Just sayin...
Neither can your gods.

If they can, they're not sayin, just sayin.....

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Mar 12, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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When the world and your existence really gets to you, what aches? Your head, your body, or a combo called the soul?
The "animal" keeps on surviving, but something else takes all the joy out of it. What is it that can dampen the will to live in human beings?
It's my eyes, Dave. Even when I close them the images still persist. So far, it's easier to keep them open. I can't stand it when I close my eyes.
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Mar 12, 2013
 
River Tam wrote:
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It's my eyes, Dave. Even when I close them the images still persist. So far, it's easier to keep them open. I can't stand it when I close my eyes.
"I can't stand it when I close my eyes.."

You never sleep, that is God like :-)

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Souls.
Love.
Hate.
Jealousy.
Aliens.
Black holes.
Dark Matter.
Need I go on?
Science can see and measure

Love
Hate
Jealousy

MRI mean anything to you? We have had this discussion before and you eventually agreed the MRI can detect emotions, however I see you have gone the typical fundy route of ignoring that and starting again at the beginning in the hope that it may turn out differently, dream on.

Black holes/ultra dense masses are easy to detect indirectly, observing them is a different matter. It is inferred from the movement of the stars at the centre of our galaxy that we rotate around a black hole. Thatís science detecting a black hole that is.

Dark matter now is easy to detect, in the last 2 years this aspect of science has made leaps and bounds. In the sections of the universe that have been measured It is now known that dark matter comprises of 5/6th of the mass of the (measured section) of the universe, as predicted.

The only ones in your list that science canít detect are the guesses. Do souls exist? Do aliens exist? Of course there is considerably more probability that aliens exist but probability is not science.

Somewhat behind the scientific times arenít you?

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Ah, your rationality and objectiveness just excites the hell out of me.
Let's cuddle, sugar.
And you lack of logic and inane stupidity bores the hell out of me

You can cuddle as much sugar as you want if thatís what turns you on

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River Tam wrote:
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Neither can your gods.
If they can, they're not sayin, just sayin.....
I don't have gods, RT....

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Science can see and measure
Love
Hate
Jealousy
MRI mean anything to you? We have had this discussion before and you eventually agreed the MRI can detect emotions, however I see you have gone the typical fundy route of ignoring that and starting again at the beginning in the hope that it may turn out differently, dream on.
Black holes/ultra dense masses are easy to detect indirectly, observing them is a different matter. It is inferred from the movement of the stars at the centre of our galaxy that we rotate around a black hole. Thatís science detecting a black hole that is.
Dark matter now is easy to detect, in the last 2 years this aspect of science has made leaps and bounds. In the sections of the universe that have been measured It is now known that dark matter comprises of 5/6th of the mass of the (measured section) of the universe, as predicted.
The only ones in your list that science canít detect are the guesses. Do souls exist? Do aliens exist? Of course there is considerably more probability that aliens exist but probability is not science.
Somewhat behind the scientific times arenít you?
Love, hate and jealousy cannot be detected by science, MRI or not.

Black hols and dark matter are hypothetical and have never been detected my science.
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Mar 12, 2013
 
ChristineM wrote:
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Science can see and measure
Love
Hate
Jealousy
Neat if science could evaluate paintings as to their worth or determine why a rose's aroma was pleasing...just saying.

.......have to love quantitative analysis :-)

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Mar 12, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Um, noo..... That would be you, son.
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See? Out of context. If you read Exodus 33:20, you'll understand why Moses had to see God's back and not his face.
And please don't be a "tee hee hee" 5 years old and think "my back parts" means ass.
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What if?
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I'm glad you've convinced yourself that your so right.
This guy would disagree with you.

And he's not atheist.

http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseactio...

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Mar 12, 2013
 
Thinking wrote:
Non sequitur, but have you seen Weekly Wipe reviewing "Wonders of Life"?
Bearing in mind Charlie Brooker is a strong Brian advocate, I thought it was really funny to parody how dumb people could misinterpret his work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Nope, not seen it, and not got time at the moment so dropped the link on my desktop for later - cheers

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Mar 12, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You are missing plenty. AND taking more scripture out of context.
What does Jesus mean when HE says to hate?
Is there a biblical dictionary somewhere?
In this context, yes there is.
In Genesis chapter 29, the story of Jacob, Rachel, and Leah. If you read, study and understand Genesis 29, you'll understand that in this context to be "hated" is to be loved less than another.
I don't expect you to understand.
You're atheist goggles are too thick.
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Twist and shout
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Come on and work it on out
Well work it on out, honey
You know you look so good
You know you got me goin' now
Just like I know you would

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Twist and shout
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Come on and work it on out
You know you twist, little girl
You know you twist so fine
Come on and twist a little closer now
And let me know that you're mine, woo

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Yeah, shake it up baby now
Twist and shout
Come on, come on, come, come on baby now
Come on and work it on out
You know you twist, little girl
You know you twist so fine
Come on and twist a little closer now
And let me know that you're mine
Well shake it, shake it, shake it, baby now
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Well shake it, shake it, shake it, baby now
Ah, ah, ah, ah
Buy "Twist and Shout" on

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Mar 12, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
http://lightyears.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/05/tw...
You're braying like a jackass....
Just saying.
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Gee, I wonder why he's promoting lies?

Oh wait, I know. I just had to peruse your link.

"Kip Thorne, professor emeritus at California Institute of Technology, offered some ideas in his 1993 book, "Black Holes and Time Warps: Einstein's Outrageous Legacy," which made him famous in black hole circles.

"He's actually working on a Hollywood movie right now with Steven Spielberg,"

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Looks like ol' Kippy's got his eyes on the prize instead of facts.

Moron.

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Mar 12, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Look, I know atheists like to play with words and sometimes make up definitions as they go along. But that's not how the rest of the world works (you know, the other 99% of us).
There is no "how do I define dead", there is just the definitions of dead.
On this topic, dead means no longer living.
Like Jesus.(If he ever was.)

And Michael Jackson.

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Mar 12, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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So, are these Christians you like to mock and disdain, are they dumb and disabled as you were, or just inherently evil?
Hiding behind christianity to mock disability is a sad personality trait you have there.

Man up, come out of the closet and say what you really mean.

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