Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#159691 Mar 12, 2013
Non sequitur, but have you seen Weekly Wipe reviewing "Wonders of Life"?

Bearing in mind Charlie Brooker is a strong Brian advocate, I thought it was really funny to parody how dumb people could misinterpret his work.

ChristineM wrote:
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So tell me, what has pointing out lies and deceit got to do with destroying christianity? Honey, thatís just showing up your sad personality traits, itís not my fault that chrsitianity (and related cults) attracts so many deviants.
However if you feel you can redeem your blatent lies and link to any of my posts that attempt to destroy christianity then I challenge you to do so.
And being a testosterone overdosed chauvanist prig does not mitigate your davesworld BS. Never mind a shave, how about a bath Ė in bleach or better still, hydrofluoric acid?
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#159692 Mar 12, 2013
I once rescued a swan from a boating lake and got shoes full of goose and duck whatsit for my troubles.
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Goose poop?
It's pretty much everywhere.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#159694 Mar 12, 2013
River Tam wrote:
Goose poop?
It's pretty much everywhere.
lol, you dork.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#159695 Mar 12, 2013
KJV wrote:
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I have it along with two of my coworkers
I don't have it as bad as my Boss.
It's good to know that most Geniuses have this gift. It opens the mind to much better ways of thinking.
Dyslexic The Genesis disease.
Facts are that people with Dyslexic have bigger brains. And most Genesis have Dyslexic.
Dyslexia - The Strange Genius Disease
Dyslexic people are intuitive, highly intelligent and creative individuals who are visual, multi-dimensional thinkers. But because they think in pictures, they have troubles when it comes to letters, numbers, symbols, and written words.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Dyslexia-The-S...
Dyslexics have a larger brain than "normal" people. It is about 10% larger in the right hemisphere.
http://www.coulditbedyslexia.com/know.html
I donít take sofpedia as a source but thanks anyway, It does say what I already knew, I am particularly good at what I do (3D artist and animator) because I am Dyslexic and so more spatially aware than average.

I was not diagnosed until I was 14 and prescribed tinted/prismatic glasses. The day I received them a new world opened, letters came together to make words and I began reading avidly (still do), went on to college, then uni, opened a business (with my husband) that is still small but successful and international.

I hope you have a handle on it, it can be a problem when faced with people who donít understand. Itís the reason I am not christian, when I was a child the congregation at my church, even the minister ridiculed me. I saw the minister a couple of years ago, he tracked me down after 30 years to apologise. Nice of him really and being as cynical as I am I suppose it now helps him sleep at night.

Even today in this supposedly enlightened age there are a few people who love to mock disability, no matter what that disability is, funnily enough I still find that itís christians (or claimed christians) who seem to get most enjoyment from displaying such disdain.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#159697 Mar 12, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
The first 4 only exist in your head.
Aliens as a term is subjective.
The next two are being studied.
Please, go on.
When the world and your existence really gets to you, what aches? Your head, your body, or a combo called the soul?

The "animal" keeps on surviving, but something else takes all the joy out of it. What is it that can dampen the will to live in human beings?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#159698 Mar 12, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
The first 4 only exist in your head.
Aliens as a term is subjective.
The next two are being studied.
Please, go on.
BTW - science can't detect black holes or dark matter.....

Just sayin...

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#159699 Mar 12, 2013
A jackass! It's a jackass that you worship right?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know, what form does an omnipresent being take?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#159700 Mar 12, 2013
......... Well...... I......... Never mind, Dave you are a senile fckwit.
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Polly, I understand physics pretty well. But there is a difference between your physics and mine. Yours is a study of number relationships, mine is a study of processes and interaction. Mine turns into intuition, yours is staring at a chalkboard. If the need arises for a quick fix to keep surviving, which do you think would likely survive?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#159701 Mar 12, 2013
You deem God as worthless?

I agree. Imaginary friends are best left for children.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Godd. Then I hereby deem you worthless.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#159702 Mar 12, 2013
http://lightyears.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/05/tw...

You're braying like a jackass....
Just saying.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW - science can't detect black holes or dark matter.....
Just sayin...

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#159703 Mar 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
I donít take sofpedia as a source but thanks anyway, It does say what I already knew, I am particularly good at what I do (3D artist and animator) because I am Dyslexic and so more spatially aware than average.
I was not diagnosed until I was 14 and prescribed tinted/prismatic glasses. The day I received them a new world opened, letters came together to make words and I began reading avidly (still do), went on to college, then uni, opened a business (with my husband) that is still small but successful and international.
I hope you have a handle on it, it can be a problem when faced with people who donít understand. Itís the reason I am not christian, when I was a child the congregation at my church, even the minister ridiculed me. I saw the minister a couple of years ago, he tracked me down after 30 years to apologise. Nice of him really and being as cynical as I am I suppose it now helps him sleep at night.
Even today in this supposedly enlightened age there are a few people who love to mock disability, no matter what that disability is, funnily enough I still find that itís christians (or claimed christians) who seem to get most enjoyment from displaying such disdain.
So, are these Christians you like to mock and disdain, are they dumb and disabled as you were, or just inherently evil?

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#159704 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW - science can't detect black holes or dark matter.....
Just sayin...
Neither can your gods.

If they can, they're not sayin, just sayin.....

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#159705 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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When the world and your existence really gets to you, what aches? Your head, your body, or a combo called the soul?
The "animal" keeps on surviving, but something else takes all the joy out of it. What is it that can dampen the will to live in human beings?
It's my eyes, Dave. Even when I close them the images still persist. So far, it's easier to keep them open. I can't stand it when I close my eyes.
Lincoln

United States

#159706 Mar 12, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
It's my eyes, Dave. Even when I close them the images still persist. So far, it's easier to keep them open. I can't stand it when I close my eyes.
"I can't stand it when I close my eyes.."

You never sleep, that is God like :-)

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#159707 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Souls.
Love.
Hate.
Jealousy.
Aliens.
Black holes.
Dark Matter.
Need I go on?
Science can see and measure

Love
Hate
Jealousy

MRI mean anything to you? We have had this discussion before and you eventually agreed the MRI can detect emotions, however I see you have gone the typical fundy route of ignoring that and starting again at the beginning in the hope that it may turn out differently, dream on.

Black holes/ultra dense masses are easy to detect indirectly, observing them is a different matter. It is inferred from the movement of the stars at the centre of our galaxy that we rotate around a black hole. Thatís science detecting a black hole that is.

Dark matter now is easy to detect, in the last 2 years this aspect of science has made leaps and bounds. In the sections of the universe that have been measured It is now known that dark matter comprises of 5/6th of the mass of the (measured section) of the universe, as predicted.

The only ones in your list that science canít detect are the guesses. Do souls exist? Do aliens exist? Of course there is considerably more probability that aliens exist but probability is not science.

Somewhat behind the scientific times arenít you?

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#159708 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Ah, your rationality and objectiveness just excites the hell out of me.
Let's cuddle, sugar.
And you lack of logic and inane stupidity bores the hell out of me

You can cuddle as much sugar as you want if thatís what turns you on

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#159709 Mar 12, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither can your gods.
If they can, they're not sayin, just sayin.....
I don't have gods, RT....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#159710 Mar 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Science can see and measure
Love
Hate
Jealousy
MRI mean anything to you? We have had this discussion before and you eventually agreed the MRI can detect emotions, however I see you have gone the typical fundy route of ignoring that and starting again at the beginning in the hope that it may turn out differently, dream on.
Black holes/ultra dense masses are easy to detect indirectly, observing them is a different matter. It is inferred from the movement of the stars at the centre of our galaxy that we rotate around a black hole. Thatís science detecting a black hole that is.
Dark matter now is easy to detect, in the last 2 years this aspect of science has made leaps and bounds. In the sections of the universe that have been measured It is now known that dark matter comprises of 5/6th of the mass of the (measured section) of the universe, as predicted.
The only ones in your list that science canít detect are the guesses. Do souls exist? Do aliens exist? Of course there is considerably more probability that aliens exist but probability is not science.
Somewhat behind the scientific times arenít you?
Love, hate and jealousy cannot be detected by science, MRI or not.

Black hols and dark matter are hypothetical and have never been detected my science.
Lincoln

United States

#159711 Mar 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Science can see and measure
Love
Hate
Jealousy
Neat if science could evaluate paintings as to their worth or determine why a rose's aroma was pleasing...just saying.

.......have to love quantitative analysis :-)

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#159712 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Um, noo..... That would be you, son.
<quoted text>
See? Out of context. If you read Exodus 33:20, you'll understand why Moses had to see God's back and not his face.
And please don't be a "tee hee hee" 5 years old and think "my back parts" means ass.
<quoted text>
What if?
<quoted text>
I'm glad you've convinced yourself that your so right.
This guy would disagree with you.

And he's not atheist.

http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseactio...

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