Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#159708 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Ah, your rationality and objectiveness just excites the hell out of me.
Let's cuddle, sugar.
And you lack of logic and inane stupidity bores the hell out of me

You can cuddle as much sugar as you want if thatís what turns you on

“Ditat Deus”

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#159709 Mar 12, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Neither can your gods.
If they can, they're not sayin, just sayin.....
I don't have gods, RT....

“Ditat Deus”

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#159710 Mar 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Science can see and measure
Love
Hate
Jealousy
MRI mean anything to you? We have had this discussion before and you eventually agreed the MRI can detect emotions, however I see you have gone the typical fundy route of ignoring that and starting again at the beginning in the hope that it may turn out differently, dream on.
Black holes/ultra dense masses are easy to detect indirectly, observing them is a different matter. It is inferred from the movement of the stars at the centre of our galaxy that we rotate around a black hole. Thatís science detecting a black hole that is.
Dark matter now is easy to detect, in the last 2 years this aspect of science has made leaps and bounds. In the sections of the universe that have been measured It is now known that dark matter comprises of 5/6th of the mass of the (measured section) of the universe, as predicted.
The only ones in your list that science canít detect are the guesses. Do souls exist? Do aliens exist? Of course there is considerably more probability that aliens exist but probability is not science.
Somewhat behind the scientific times arenít you?
Love, hate and jealousy cannot be detected by science, MRI or not.

Black hols and dark matter are hypothetical and have never been detected my science.
Lincoln

United States

#159711 Mar 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Science can see and measure
Love
Hate
Jealousy
Neat if science could evaluate paintings as to their worth or determine why a rose's aroma was pleasing...just saying.

.......have to love quantitative analysis :-)

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#159712 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Um, noo..... That would be you, son.
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See? Out of context. If you read Exodus 33:20, you'll understand why Moses had to see God's back and not his face.
And please don't be a "tee hee hee" 5 years old and think "my back parts" means ass.
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What if?
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I'm glad you've convinced yourself that your so right.
This guy would disagree with you.

And he's not atheist.

http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseactio...

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#159713 Mar 12, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Non sequitur, but have you seen Weekly Wipe reviewing "Wonders of Life"?
Bearing in mind Charlie Brooker is a strong Brian advocate, I thought it was really funny to parody how dumb people could misinterpret his work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =fuWj_1cAreQXX
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Nope, not seen it, and not got time at the moment so dropped the link on my desktop for later - cheers

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#159714 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You are missing plenty. AND taking more scripture out of context.
What does Jesus mean when HE says to hate?
Is there a biblical dictionary somewhere?
In this context, yes there is.
In Genesis chapter 29, the story of Jacob, Rachel, and Leah. If you read, study and understand Genesis 29, you'll understand that in this context to be "hated" is to be loved less than another.
I don't expect you to understand.
You're atheist goggles are too thick.
Well, shake it up baby now
Twist and shout
Come on, come on, come, come on baby now
Come on and work it on out
Well work it on out, honey
You know you look so good
You know you got me goin' now
Just like I know you would

Well, shake it up baby now
Twist and shout
Come on, come on, come, come on baby now
Come on and work it on out
You know you twist, little girl
You know you twist so fine
Come on and twist a little closer now
And let me know that you're mine, woo

Ah, ah, ah, ah
Yeah, shake it up baby now
Twist and shout
Come on, come on, come, come on baby now
Come on and work it on out
You know you twist, little girl
You know you twist so fine
Come on and twist a little closer now
And let me know that you're mine
Well shake it, shake it, shake it, baby now
Well shake it, shake it, shake it, baby now
Well shake it, shake it, shake it, baby now
Ah, ah, ah, ah
Buy "Twist and Shout" on

“Ditat Deus”

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#159715 Mar 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
http://lightyears.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/05/tw...
You're braying like a jackass....
Just saying.
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Gee, I wonder why he's promoting lies?

Oh wait, I know. I just had to peruse your link.

"Kip Thorne, professor emeritus at California Institute of Technology, offered some ideas in his 1993 book, "Black Holes and Time Warps: Einstein's Outrageous Legacy," which made him famous in black hole circles.

"He's actually working on a Hollywood movie right now with Steven Spielberg,"

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Looks like ol' Kippy's got his eyes on the prize instead of facts.

Moron.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#159716 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Look, I know atheists like to play with words and sometimes make up definitions as they go along. But that's not how the rest of the world works (you know, the other 99% of us).
There is no "how do I define dead", there is just the definitions of dead.
On this topic, dead means no longer living.
Like Jesus.(If he ever was.)

And Michael Jackson.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#159717 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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So, are these Christians you like to mock and disdain, are they dumb and disabled as you were, or just inherently evil?
Hiding behind christianity to mock disability is a sad personality trait you have there.

Man up, come out of the closet and say what you really mean.

“Ditat Deus”

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#159718 Mar 12, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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This guy would disagree with you.
And he's not atheist.
http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseactio...
Disagree with me in what way?

“Ditat Deus”

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#159719 Mar 12, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
Buy "Twist and Shout" on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =pVlr4g5-r18XX
I know, that's all you atheists do is twist the Bible to mean whatever you want it to mean.

“Ditat Deus”

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#159720 Mar 12, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Like Jesus.(If he ever was.)
And Michael Jackson.
Jesus is dead?

Prove it.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#159721 Mar 12, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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The first 4 only exist in your head.
Aliens as a term is subjective.
The next two are being studied.
Please, go on.
Black holes HAVE been detected.

This one is ours:

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#159722 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't have gods, RT....
I don't either. Hey !!

We have something in common.

Make me a sammich.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#159723 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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BTW - science can't detect black holes or dark matter.....
Just sayin...
Black holes have been detected and dark matter has been mapped.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm...

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#159724 Mar 12, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I once rescued a swan from a boating lake and got shoes full of goose and duck whatsit for my troubles.
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It's not about the crap. It's about the mission.

I spent 8 hours shoving a thermometer up cadaver asses.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#159725 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Love, hate and jealousy cannot be detected by science, MRI or not.
Black hols and dark matter are hypothetical and have never been detected my science.
Yes it can
http://www.imagilys.com/functional-MRI-fMRI/
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/mri.html
http://www.google.co.uk/search...

No they are not
Detecting black holes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment...
http://hplusmagazine.com/2013/01/08/review-aa...
And NASA have even measured how big the one in the centre of our galaxy is
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/SOFIA/13-01...

Dark matter
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/...
http://news.nationalgeographic.co.uk/news/200...
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_matter....
http://www2.cnrs.fr/en/1247.htm

If you are going to make stupid claims like ďBlack hols and dark matter are hypothetical and have never been detected my science.ď then I suggest you check that science first before sticking your foot in your mouth

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#159726 Mar 12, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Neat if science could evaluate paintings as to their worth or determine why a rose's aroma was pleasing...just saying.
.......have to love quantitative analysis :-)
Childishness does not improve your credibility

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#159727 Mar 12, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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It's my eyes, Dave. Even when I close them the images still persist. So far, it's easier to keep them open. I can't stand it when I close my eyes.
PTSD would be a dry term used to describe what you are suffering from. A dry and very remote term for something you are experiencing. You can understand why people have different perspectives from such. We all still live in our own skins.

You had a visual memory burned into your consciousness. Your consciousness is usually pretty fluid, but you have this image blocking the way. Sort of like a program freeze on your computer.

Such happens to people on a continuing basis.

You are the only one that can reset that.

It was a life changing, in a big way, event. But you should notice life is still going on. It didn't end, and the experience may in the end be an enhancement to your existence because of the new perspective. It happened and you aren't going to change it. You just adapt to it.

Life is kinda like going shopping. You can pick up things that get downright heavy to carry, and you have a long ways to go. Such distracts from your enjoyment, especially if the bag handles cut into your fingers. Window shopping can be more fun. Hooking the bag over your shoulder to take the strain off your fingers helps if you have to carry something.

I wandered off there.

That event is long gone. The effects are still there, but you just adjust to them. Close your eyes, look at what happened objectively, then reset. It won't be as painful as always turning away in fear the rest of your life. You have a long ways to go.

Little one, even on this forum you shine like a diamond. You are a precious gem. You got polished a bit. Like I said before, if Godzilla shows up and you had two legs you would be running terrified on your own for your life. The gem you are would cause a crowd to gather about you with spears to fight Godzilla. Something loves you more than you know.

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