Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#159596 Mar 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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8 references to your greatness in one little post...
LOL
Not to my greatness, that comes later, but to my WORTH. I don't assign worth to me, other people do. So your comprehension skills need some work, the post was about people who consider my worth.
bohart

Newport, TN

#159597 Mar 11, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Not to my greatness, that comes later, but to my WORTH. I don't assign worth to me, other people do. So your comprehension skills need some work, the post was about people who consider my worth.
So your worth is based on money?
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#159598 Mar 11, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Do you carry him in your heart, or do you think he was just a sucker for saving your nasty ass?
The story of Jesus was liberating man from his physical self to a higher existence and eternal life. A seed that sprouts into a new world.
Liberation from the tyranny of man, which included those who did it under the name of religious doctrine. It was the religious order that had him killed.
You are gonna die anyhow, right? Live in fear of losing your life, or know you can die and they won't run your life any more. It's a religion of free men, because their spirits are free.
No one saved my ass, in order for that to happen and real sacrifice would have to have happened, it didn't.

Why was this supposed sacrifice necessary in the first place? Because someone eat form a forbidden fruit tree? Of course this goes back to your god thing being omnipotent and able to see the future. He knew full well that Eve would eat this apple, he saw it happen before it happened. Yet he still punished them and you. He screwed up and had to come up with something to cover his really bad choice, so he supposedly sacrificed his son for the sins of Eve. The more you think about it the more insane this doctrine becomes. NO ONE can absolve you from your responsibility, it's immoral. I murder your daughter, but someone grants me complete immunity, how do you now feel. You and you alone are responsible for your actions, no one else can absolve you of that and to do so would be extremely immoral. See, the more you dig into this ridiculous belief, the more bizarre it becomes.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#159599 Mar 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Feel better?

All you're doing is misrepresenting each verse & taking it out of context.

You're displaying intellectual dishonesty.

Why?
Then please, give us YOUR interpretations.

We await your wisdom with bated breath.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#159600 Mar 11, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>No one saved my ass, in order for that to happen and real sacrifice would have to have happened, it didn't.
Why was this supposed sacrifice necessary in the first place? Because someone eat form a forbidden fruit tree? Of course this goes back to your god thing being omnipotent and able to see the future. He knew full well that Eve would eat this apple, he saw it happen before it happened. Yet he still punished them and you. He screwed up and had to come up with something to cover his really bad choice, so he supposedly sacrificed his son for the sins of Eve. The more you think about it the more insane this doctrine becomes. NO ONE can absolve you from your responsibility, it's immoral. I murder your daughter, but someone grants me complete immunity, how do you now feel. You and you alone are responsible for your actions, no one else can absolve you of that and to do so would be extremely immoral. See, the more you dig into this ridiculous belief, the more bizarre it becomes.
I thought you said a friend saved your ass in Vietnam.

Was he an atheist? If not, why are you disrespecting his belief,which surely contributed to his self sacrifice and saving yourass, on an international forum?
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#159601 Mar 11, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
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It is people like you that continually make excuses for the utter nonsense found within its pages. Failure to communicate with reality.
The "Word of God", far from being inerrant, has always been a work in progress.
Interpret this RR
And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.--Exodus 33:23
What if there is a deity and you're worshipping the wrong one?
You are a POSTER CHILD for atheism... we thank you for your unwitting support.
Redneck will not hesitate to tell you that you are reading the incorrect translation. He will tell you there are no slaves found anywhere in the bible. He'll tell you they were "servants" and of course that changes everything. They were still bought, kept against their will, and could be beaten almost to death, but were still just servants. He obviously knows better than the biblical scholars.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#159602 Mar 11, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Check out Neal Adams video on you tube, IS THE EARTH GROWING. Its neat to watch
I would think it has. It has been collecting particles for a long time.

Had a guy on PTAG calculate for me the amount of matter collected over the eons based upon what we get now, using the average density of the earth as a guide to volume. Can't remember if it was 150 feet or 150 miles globally. Pretty sure it was miles.

But the thing is it was mostly in the form of plasma, which when it gets neutral or combines with existing relatively neutral matter, is like a foam. A bucketful of protons will occupy a LOT more volume after it is added to the mix.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#159603 Mar 11, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I thought you said a friend saved your ass in Vietnam.
Was he an atheist? If not, why are you disrespecting his belief,which surely contributed to his self sacrifice and saving yourass, on an international forum?
Jeez Dave, you wouldn't know critical thinking skills if it came up and slapped you in the face.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#159604 Mar 11, 2013
bohart wrote:
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So your worth is based on money?
My worth is based on my ability to perform a given task, and to produce a product that surpasses expectations. Once again, my worth is calculated by others, not me personally. I can certainly look back on successes I have had and determine that in those instances, my worth was warranted.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#159605 Mar 11, 2013
Poor Topix atheists.

But, but, but, waqddabout, but but but waddabout

The Topix atheist motorboat.

They be so astute and sharp and knowledgeable. etc.

Science says.

What does science preach from the highest pulpits in the Almighty Church of Science is the Truth?

The unity of all matter and energy in this universe.

Uh, that includes any thought or intelligence that may arise in it. Parts in a parcel.

But they are special. Just ask them.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#159606 Mar 11, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
Jeez Dave, you wouldn't know critical thinking skills if it came up and slapped you in the face.
Wrong. I would know them. You can just assume you know them.

Oscar, you try hard to come across as an intellectual. Maybe you believe it goes with the territory of being gay and enlightened, a natural trait. But you are wrong. You are looking at reality with blinders on.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#159607 Mar 11, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought you said a friend saved your ass in Vietnam.
Was he an atheist? If not, why are you disrespecting his belief,which surely contributed to his self sacrifice and saving yourass, on an international forum?
Of course you are either intuitionally missing the point or attempting to redirect the original point. The point was, Jesus never really died, he rose from the dead and continued his existence. This is in NO WAY considered by anyone to be a sacrifice. My friend gave up his life so that others could live, his WAS sacrifice, he stayed dead.

And yes, my friend was an Atheists, there were 5 of us in that group all Atheists. Which also quells that BS about there are no Atheists in a foxhole.
bohart

Newport, TN

#159608 Mar 11, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>My worth is based on my ability to perform a given task, and to produce a product that surpasses expectations. Once again, my worth is calculated by others, not me personally. I can certainly look back on successes I have had and determine that in those instances, my worth was warranted.
Well worded, but you cleverly ducked the question. You are paid to perform these tasks. My point is this, your worth should never be calculated by others based on pay. Thats sort of a J.P. Morgan philosophy of life.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#159609 Mar 11, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Poor Topix atheists.
But, but, but, waqddabout, but but but waddabout
The Topix atheist motorboat.
They be so astute and sharp and knowledgeable. etc.
Science says.
What does science preach from the highest pulpits in the Almighty Church of Science is the Truth?
The unity of all matter and energy in this universe.
Uh, that includes any thought or intelligence that may arise in it. Parts in a parcel.
But they are special. Just ask them.
Why have you not answered my question about science. Tell me what exists that cannot be detected by science. Ready....set........GO!!!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#159610 Mar 11, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Of course you are either intuitionally missing the point or attempting to redirect the original point. The point was, Jesus never really died, he rose from the dead and continued his existence. This is in NO WAY considered by anyone to be a sacrifice. My friend gave up his life so that others could live, his WAS sacrifice, he stayed dead.
And yes, my friend was an Atheists, there were 5 of us in that group all Atheists. Which also quells that BS about there are no Atheists in a foxhole.
Five atheists in one group is very rare outside an atheist worship service.

I smell bullshit.

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#159611 Mar 11, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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As pointed out in the article, it is probably due to interaction with neutrinos from the sun. This is supported by the particular isotopes of Cl used. It is the specific isotope that is used to detect electron neutrinos.
NIST ruled out neutrinos as "the" factor,so it remains inexplicable, atm.

But we will eventually figure it out, we always do.

It's thought a yet undiscovered particle.

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#159612 Mar 11, 2013
bohart wrote:
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So your worth is based on money?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#159613 Mar 11, 2013
You are unable to prove he existed let alone what he did or had happen to him. Might as well say Frodo died for our sins.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Do you carry him in your heart, or do you think he was just a sucker for saving your nasty ass?
The story of Jesus was liberating man from his physical self to a higher existence and eternal life. A seed that sprouts into a new world.
Liberation from the tyranny of man, which included those who did it under the name of religious doctrine. It was the religious order that had him killed.
You are gonna die anyhow, right? Live in fear of losing your life, or know you can die and they won't run your life any more. It's a religion of free men, because their spirits are free.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#159614 Mar 11, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Why have you not answered my question about science. Tell me what exists that cannot be detected by science. Ready....set........GO!!!
Anything beyond what it is enabled to detect.

That is anything beyond what the matter and energy we are constructed of can touch or see.

You can not touch or see space, yet it occupies most of our space. It is even within you. All you can detect is what matter isn't there. You can assume some things work though it, such as dark energy and dark matter, but you can't touch it or see it. But science says "they know its there". It has to be because their material observations don't add up with out it.

The very same thing happens with religious beliefs and spirituality.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#159615 Mar 11, 2013
You're wrong. Early Christian hero Justin martyr lamented at how satan had created Mithraism before Christ came to try to cause concerts to stumble. He had several debates with followers of Mithra and hated it because they were always showing how Jesus was stolen from their relogion's figurehead.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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LMFAO!
A Pagan website?!? That's your "source"???
Did you bother to check on when Mithraism was? No?
'twas after Jesus, after Christianity. In the 2nd & 3rd century AD. And it was just a Greco-Roman paganist cult.
Maybe a copy?
Naaaaaawww......

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