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# Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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xyzupurmommass

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#159148 Mar 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Six foot is six times one foot. That is 6 to 1.
Assignment of "one" is arbitrary. One marks a quantity. All others mark ratios of that quantity. Calibrations.
Using a right angle, like I described earlier, gives you a reference point to achieve degrees, which are arbitrary divisions. You could mark off lengths and get and angle. Can't remember exactly, but I think it was 4 on one leg and 7 on the other to get a 60 degree angle. There are a variety of methods to get the same results.
Sighting sticks, just a stick in the ground off in the distance you want to make a straight line toward, a measure stick or rope, and that plumb bob level is all you really need. How you record the method to progress was up to the builders. Put a stick in the ground, face the sun on a certain date and time, or know the ratios of declination for the date you do it, and you can make a baseline to work from. Say how far from the top of a straight measured stick stuck in the ground to it's shadow tip at high noon. Easier to form it on the North Star. If available.
6th of whole round pie = 60 degree . qUESTION HOW THEY MANAGE GET THOSE MANY LONG COLUMN UP AT RIGHT ANGLE , EQUI-DISTANCED APART AT A FAR DISTANCE , REMAIN A MYSTERY TOO TODAY

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#159149 Mar 8, 2013
UPURMOMMASS wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you think the ancient Greeks used degrees instead of radians?
Actually, the record here is varied. Some used the degrees derived from Babylonian sources. Others used what was essentially radian measures. Hipparchus, as I recall, used a radius for his standard circle so that angular masures came out nicely. Ptolemy used something closer to degrees.
Anon
#159150 Mar 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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I have dyslexia. I know many in my ring that have dyslexia. Obviously your circular of friends aren't that intelligent.
That would explain your complete misunderstanding of a dyslexia brain.
A dyslexic man walks into a bra...

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#159151 Mar 8, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
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OK what atheist religious sect do I belong to?
What is the common ground of this atheist religion?
What is the doctrine of this religion?
Removal of all religion from public life and streets? Even though atheist are a tiny minority?

The proselytizing of atheism on public forums like this?

Oh, th ehate speech directed at the religious is also a good indication there is some belief in Topix atheist non-belief.

"Non-believers" are not proactive. They just don't believe, right?

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#159152 Mar 8, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>OK what atheist religious sect do I belong to?

What is the common ground of this atheist religion?

What is the doctrine of this religion?
Posted else where by derek4

From: The Columbus Dispatch:

February 4, 2011

Church, without God

ÂStan Bradley likes Bible stories, admires Martin Luther and uses expressions such as 'heavens, no.'

The Lithopolis man is president of a local congregation and rarely misses a Sunday service. Occasionally, he goes to his wife's church instead.

For these and other reasons, Bradley considers himself religious.Â

He is also an atheist.

continued:

ÂLike Bradley, some atheists participate in organized religion for its social and psychological benefits.Â

continued:

ÂChurches are great places to find friends, support and youth education, so nonbelievers and believers alike join congregations to fill those needs, he said.

He has spoken to elderly and sick people who can no longer go to church and they say they most miss the feeling of community.

Recent research from Harvard University and the University of Wisconsin backs him up. It found that religious people tend to be happier than nonreligious people, not because of belief but because of the friendships found at church.Â
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/faith...

Âreligious people tend to be happier than nonreligious peopleÂ[I have said this all along, and my posts are still on the board to confirm it. Now you hear it straight from the atheist, lol.]

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#159153 Mar 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Removal of all religion from public life and streets? Even though atheist are a tiny minority?
The proselytizing of atheism on public forums like this?
Oh, th ehate speech directed at the religious is also a good indication there is some belief in Topix atheist non-belief.
"Non-believers" are not proactive. They just don't believe, right?
What you stated makes atheism not a religion. So then atheism is not a religion.

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#159154 Mar 8, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>OK what atheist religious sect do I belong to?

What is the common ground of this atheist religion?

What is the doctrine of this religion?
Posted earlier by derek4

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#159155 Mar 8, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Sand and water, Clementia.
That's all it takes to cut.
Sand, water and buoyancy, Clementia.
That's all it takes to raise heavy things.
Sand, water, buoyant material and a lot of slaves.
Yh, but slaves who were from a different planet!

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#159156 Mar 8, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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Ancient architects
Some of our most impressive structures are actually incredibly old and difficult to determine the precise dates they were built.
We still don't have a clue how the Great Pyramid of Giza was built, or its precise purpose. Despite what you may have heard, no mummy has ever been found in the Egyptian pyramids, they were all found in the Valley of the Kings. So the true meaning of the pyramids is actually a mystery.
As is the technology used and the matter of how multiple cultures in Africa, the Middle East and Central America all built pyramids around roughly the same time. The matter has had archeologists both professional and amateur alike scratching their heads and theorizing why and how this could have happened.
Why do we aspire to such grand heights? Ego perhaps.
In some cases we might not have much choice but to build upwards if the population grows very dense and land close to water and food is scarce.
We thrive in some of the most inhospitable places on the Earth, and always we build upwards.
There is no precise beginning for the history of architecture either. Our earliest buildings date from either the end of the last ice age or during the ice age, which was only 10 to 15 milleniums ago.
Likewise, there was no precise ending of the ice age. We presume it phased out slowly, but it could have changed quite quickly in a matter of decades or years. We really don't know.
That's exactly what i was tryin' to say!:-)

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#159157 Mar 8, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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We tend to frown on 20 year projects involving slave labor today.
lol!

I really don't believe the 20 years thing tho, it don't sound possible!

Since: Sep 08

#159158 Mar 8, 2013
xyzupurmommass wrote:
<quoted text>6th of whole round pie = 60 degree . qUESTION HOW THEY MANAGE GET THOSE MANY LONG COLUMN UP AT RIGHT ANGLE , EQUI-DISTANCED APART AT A FAR DISTANCE , REMAIN A MYSTERY TOO TODAY
Plumb bob and sighting sticks. And big tripods and travois.

Dig your hole, drag your rock to where you drop the base, and then raise the end of the travois via the big tripods. The travois are much longer and give a mechanical advantage. You keep the rock base close to the back end of the travois.

When you drag a travois, or parallel logs, the friction is on the back ends. Not much surface area hitting the ground, and the wood shears off. Roller logs have to be the same exact diameter, and roght ground and pebbles play hell on them. You lose a lot of scarce wood in one short distance. You trashed all the logs.

Roman, and probably Greek, too, columns were made in small sections stacked on top of each other. Scaffolding and keeping it plumb as you went up.

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#159159 Mar 8, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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We could easily build a pyramid today.
We could probably reproduce the pyramid at Giza in less than a year if we wanted to.
Without our modern technology? I'd love to see that!!

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#159161 Mar 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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What you stated makes atheism not a religion. So then atheism is not a religion.
Why are you proselytizing it? Along with scientism?

Atheists of the gaps.
xyzupurmommass

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#159163 Mar 8, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Actually, the record here is varied. Some used the degrees derived from Babylonian sources. Others used what was essentially radian measures. Hipparchus, as I recall, used a radius for his standard circle so that angular masures came out nicely. Ptolemy used something closer to degrees.
Sumerian astronomers introduced angle measure, using a division of circles into 360 degrees.[4] They and their successors the Babylonians studied the ratios of the sides of similar triangles and discovered some properties of these ratios, but did not turn that into a systematic method for finding sides and angles of triangles. The ancient Nubians used a similar method.[5] The ancient Greeks transformed trigonometry into an ordered science. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigonometry

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#159164 Mar 8, 2013
Intelligent design proponet burps something in court. No reaason to read further, KJV is just humiliating himself again.
Langoliers wrote:
John Calvert, a lawyer and intelligent design proponent declared:
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arte et marte

#159165 Mar 8, 2013
XYZURMOMMAPASS wrote:
<quoted text>u're confusion is well noted.
diputs er'uoy desufnoc ton mi spil ym daer
xyzupurmommass

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#159166 Mar 8, 2013
History

The concept of radian measure, as opposed to the degree of an angle, is normally credited to Roger Cotes in 1714.[1] He had the radian in everything but name, and he recognized its naturalness as a unit of angular measure. The idea of measuring angles by the length of the arc was used already by other mathematicians. For example al-Kashi (c. 1400) used so-called diameter parts as units where one diameter part was 1/60 radian and they also used sexagesimal subunits of the diameter part.[2]

The term radian first appeared in print on 5 June 1873, in examination questions set by James Thomson (brother of Lord Kelvin) at Queen's College, Belfast. He used the term as early as 1871, while in 1869, Thomas Muir, then of the University of St Andrews,

I think coined word "Radian goes way further back to Persian ... i could be wrong.

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#159167 Mar 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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I am a geniuses you are not.
Carry on...

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#159168 Mar 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Wow!
Uh, am I supposed to feel bad or chastised or something?

You are one strange cat Dave, you solicited for sex with underage boys in here before and. But now you want to talk down on gay.
You are as steady as a squiggly line on thinghys. Most folks call people like you "just plain crazy" , no passing go or collecting extra credits for explaining away gravity with a magnet.
Thinking

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#159169 Mar 8, 2013
So?

If he's just another id cu*t, he's not trustworthy.
Langoliers wrote:
John Calvert, a lawyer and intelligent designproponent declared:
The Seventh Judicial Circuit of the Court of Appeals of the United States held that ATHEISM IS A RELIGION. Therefore, it cannot be promoted by a public school. Currently, public schools are often unwittingly promoting atheism through a dogmatic and uncritical teaching of materialistic theories of origins.

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