Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158881 Mar 7, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, millions.

[QUOTE]Slavery can be in different forms. Conscription of tradesmen for public works, which at the time the Pharaoh was the public, would be considered slavery by those tradesmen. They had to leave home and probably didn't get the highest wages they could have."

The problem with white-washing slavery in this case is that the slavery in this case would have to be bad enough to morally justify the atrocities that were purportedly committed by Yahweh against the Egyptians. Atrocities that conspicuously lack any
corroborating evidence.

[QUOTE]There are lots of things that happened and got buried and you will never find."

Even if you go specifically to look, based on information provided by the Bible? Because many people have.

[QUOTE]
Surviving records are scarce from most any age, including just a few hundred years ago."

And yet there are no records at all of the various plagues, nor any mention by other cultures of these millions of homeless Hebrews wandering through their lands. You'd think that would rate some kind of mention.
I caught about 20 minutes of The Bible on the history channel last night.

Just in time for the crossing of the Red Sea.

"Holy crap" is an appropriate term.

They must have had at least a $1000 budget.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158882 Mar 7, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>Homosexuality is different in Japan - but now the Western sexual identities are moving here powerfully. Whereas before many MSM (men who have sex with men) told me "I'm not a homosexual, I just want to have sex with men" a lot of them are embracing it. I think they're tired of living hidden lives - but I'm no longer doing that kind of research, so I don't really keep tabs on the people anymore. Some must still claim not to be homosexuals (and the identity markers that they perceive going along with that).

Met my first lesbian couple here a few months back! One was obviously gay, the other apparently straight, going by stereotypes. Well, they broke up and the straightish one is straight, with a bf. She wants to marry a man, have kids. The other one doesn't.

People are so strange and interesting :)
There's a woman I used to work with who has gone from straight to gay and back to straight.

She is, in general, a very strange person and somewhat socially awkward. She's had drug problems and financial troubles and tends to be a compulsive liar.

She tends to dress very masculine and her mannerisms are kind of ambiguous-definitely no feminine, but not really masculine either.

I don't think she honestly knows WHAT she is.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158883 Mar 7, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>But a man and woman might not be able to have babies either! R u honestly telling me the main point of getting married is to have babies? That don't make sense!
Right!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158885 Mar 7, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>U can, but not massive rocks like that! They too big and too smooth!

We got two choices; aliens or giant aliens!
They were clever and patient people with lots of time on their hands.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158886 Mar 7, 2013
Billy Bob Gramm wrote:
<quoted text>You ever see what Fred Flintstone does for a living?
Yup.

They used dinosaurs.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158887 Mar 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Yup

You hit the mail on the head, Clementia.
And some pretend to be straight because they know their parents would disown them if they knew they were gay.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158888 Mar 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>It isn't. It's a homophobe cop-out. I'm married, my wife has never had kids and doesn't want any. I have 2 from my previous marriage and got a vasectomy after kid #2. My wife told me that hearing that about me when we first met was a huge relief for her.

We are effectively a straight, married couple that will never procreate.

And we're lovin it
2 kids too late.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158889 Mar 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Is there a problem with learning?
No.

You should try it sometime.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158890 Mar 7, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>He does nothing!! He's like the prehistoric version of Homer Simpson. They both do nothing!
Homer works in a nuclear power plant.

Fred worked in a quarry.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#158891 Mar 7, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
All you stated was that you have to buy the snake oil without evidence in order for you to believe it will work, that still doesn't mean the snake oil will work. As for the "proof" you offer, that has all been addressed and debunked a million times over, catch up.
Debunked a million times you say, give me one debunked and I'll prove it's simply as always, lack of knowledge because of laziness in studying the bible.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#158892 Mar 7, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
OK clever clog, know-it-all sheepy boy, what's your theory?
My 'theory'? My hypothesis is, there is only one or two trolls on here playing the part of several people. All they have to do to get attention is, deny science and hide in it's gaps. I don't think that these trolls are interested in learning science or about christianity, they are just interested in the fight.

Can you imagine the christ talking about a donkey punch or sloppy seconds? Only a troll would say such things.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158893 Mar 7, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>Shhhhh...<looks from side to side - whispers> Dave knows thingies.
Or something like that.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#158894 Mar 7, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
They can't marry for love, legally.
Marriage has never been about "love". It has always been a breeding contract.

This "love" thing they like to push is bullshit pulled from romance novels.

Individuals can be fuzzy headed and survive. When society itself gets fuzzy headed, it will die.
Imhotep

Brandon, FL

#158895 Mar 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, sorry.
Oh, lo siento.¿Qué tal esto?
Deja de quejarte y cortar el césped de mierda, beaner.
Try harder RR

Você já se perguntou o que sua vida teria sido se você tivesse oxigênio suficiente no nascimento?
Imhotep

Brandon, FL

#158896 Mar 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you are looking more at matters of doctrine than stifling science. Bringing the faithful under one roof in the areas they controlled.
It was Julius Caesar that caused the big fire at Alexandria. That was BC. There was another fire or two later, and that was to get rid of the blood sacrifice religions. You have to understand that blood sacrifices were not nice things. Would you like to still have them practiced widely?
As the Roman Empire collapsed transportation was no longer safe as little kingdoms and banditry became the norm. You had a powerful empire that kept order now crumbling around your ears. The storehouses of knowledge were isolated. Plus the Romans weren't known for science and math. It was the church that gathered old knowledge and created the first universities. It was their unification of Europe that got the ball rolling. Getting that all together took more than a week or ten days.
Quit listening to those stupid talking points which are designed to maximize a bad portrayal, and minimize the good they did.
If nothing else, the Catholic Church stopped ALL blood sacrifices.
The Coptics went their own way in Egypt. That was the earliest churches.
Extreme controversy surrounds any discussion of the Catholic Church's role in genocide and crimes against humanity. Several issues need to be highlighted in seeking to unravel this controversy.

First is the allegation that the Church was directly responsible for the drive toward colonialism in issuing papal bulls that commanded states such as Portugal to spread Catholicism. One might argue that these declarations led European nation-states to believe that it was their right to acquire territories abroad. The fact that crimes against humanity were committed during colonial conquest is uncontested.

A second criticism often leveled against the Church is that it has failed in its moral duty to condemn or guide leaders and populations in curbing genocidal tendencies. Such an argument claims that the Church, by virtue of its proclaimed aim of spiritual guidance, ought to have played a more significant role in the prevention of crimes against humanity and genocide.

The third and fiercest criticism of the Church, however, is that it has furthered genocidal tendencies. This remains the harshest criticism and goes beyond moral arguments to an examination of evidence suggesting that elements of the Church have colluded with forces perpetrating crimes against humanity and genocide.

http://www.enotes.com/catholic-church-referen...

http://devilthinking.com/catholic.html

Ah , the wonder of faith and gods <rolls eyes>

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#158897 Mar 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you are looking more at matters of doctrine than stifling science. Bringing the faithful under one roof in the areas they controlled.
The history doesn't support that interpretation. For example, it was the *Christian* emperors that banned Plato's academy.
It was Julius Caesar that caused the big fire at Alexandria.
No, that was the *first* fire, but it was mostly at the ship docks nearby the library and was certainly not intentional on the part of Caesar.
That was BC. There was another fire or two later, and that was to get rid of the blood sacrifice religions. You have to understand that blood sacrifices were not nice things. Would you like to still have them practiced widely?
Again, incorrect history. The Christians were the ones that stirred up things against Hypatia, for example. The sacrifices there were not human sacrifices (the typical understanding of blood sacrifices) and were actually not common during the late 4th century. It shoudl also be understood that this was a way of distributing meat to the poor. It was Theodosius that later ordered the library sacked (although it lasted until the Moslems came along and finally destroyed the last remnants.
As the Roman Empire collapsed
You mean the Roman empire under the *Christian* emperors?
Plus the Romans weren't known for science and math. It was the church that gathered old knowledge and created the first universities.
Again, the universities were *much* later than the collapse of the Roman empire. They were a response to the knowledge of the Islamic lands, not of the fall of Rome.
Quit listening to those stupid talking points which are designed to maximize a bad portrayal, and minimize the good they did.
And you should quit looking at the apologetic sites and quit minimizing the harm they did.
If nothing else, the Catholic Church stopped ALL blood sacrifices.
And brought along a 500 year period of ignorance and chaos. That goes from the fall of Rome to the beginning of the translation movement.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#158898 Mar 7, 2013
These passing judgments on history to bolster arguments is bullshit. It is how you got here.

So is the rewriting history that goes with it.

Have a dying hard drive on this laptop. Would say more, but you can take the above as the truth.

Right now I am trying to pull a Lazarus.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#158899 Mar 7, 2013
Why?
Dave Nelson wrote:
Would say more, but you can take the above as the truth.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#158900 Mar 7, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Why?
<quoted text>
Because it is.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#158901 Mar 7, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
They can't marry for love, legally.
O_o

Then what, they can marry for money?

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