Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#158677 Mar 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.denverpost.com/news /ci_22726190/two-three-women-c olorado-prisons-diagnosed-psyc hological-disorders
Depressing.
One of my customers was a lifer prison for women in FL. God, I hated going into that place. These were women doing serious time for crimes up to murder. Staffers told me the overwhelming amount of cases involved drugs and abuse. Women being dependent on as*holes and being abused and exploited. And lost. No opportunity to make choices, really. Beaten right out of the gate.
How is your ideal atheist societies going to restrict drugs and bad behavior among men with just words written on paper? No higher authority looking down when you are out of sight of the cops?
The "higher moral authority looking down while you are out of sight of the cops" - obviously hasn't been too successful so far, eh?

Buck Crick

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#158678 Mar 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Is that all that keeps you from breaking the law, Davey?
The belief that you're always being watched?
That's pretty pathetic, Davey.
That's not what he said.

How 'bout this one:

All humanity is a connected idea of something greater, and when doing harm to one, you harm all, including yourself. When you add peace and comfort, when you lighten someone's burden a little, you have exalted yourself, and served the higher idea. When you extend kindness, you have gotten closer to and are experiencing.....uhhh...the Higher Idea.

I like it.

But, yeah, I seem to have been particularly challenged at executing it at times.

Buck Crick

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#158679 Mar 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Nope, it doesn't explain what he was saying at all. I said translate, not summarize.
OK. I'll try again, since you insist.

He is saying when they were handing out brains, you were over in the mouth line asking for seconds.

Better?

Buck Crick

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#158680 Mar 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/06/ health/super-bug-bacteria-spre ading/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
That death rate alone from "hospital-acquired infections" is 3 times the rate of guns.
About 1.7 million get those infections per year.
Ain't science grand?
It is if applied right.
That's why Obama-Biden, along with banning guns, is also banning hospitals.(Obamacare)

This will necessitate, of course, that they require abortions to be done in gas stations and car washes.

Biden's hair plugs will be done in tattoo parlors.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#158681 Mar 6, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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The "higher moral authority looking down while you are out of sight of the cops" - obviously hasn't been too successful so far, eh?
Worked better than things have since your atheism and liberal get your freak on push started a few decades ago. By a long shot.

You had a double whammy there. No religious morals, and strict letter of the law protecting a*sholes.

Ever read much about the old West and how things were really done? Bad behavior was tracked down and punished. Just following some basic guidelines.

Buck Crick

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#158682 Mar 6, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Reading a book won't fix the car, but it will help to give me the knowledge required to fix it. Learning what other people have discovered means I don't have to waste my time repeating the mistakes they made. Of course, it is good to do the experiments or demonstrations, but ignoring the work that others have done is, literally, ignorance.
Now, at the edge of knowledge, it works a bit differently: you provide your observations and hypotheses and others provide their and then you discuss to see which hypothesis fits best and how to test it further. You still need to read what others have done to keep up, but always with an awareness that they can be as wrong as you are and that we are all simply attempting to understand the universe.
The fact that you refuse to look at what others have done means you will always be behind. I can assure you that your heroes Faraday and Maxwell were very aware of the experiments of Ampere, Watt, Ohm, and others.
I hope you don't go the auto parts store and ask for an infinite length fan belt.

Buck Crick

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#158683 Mar 6, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Lets ask you the same questions
Where did god come from?
Where did plants come from?
Where did animals come from?
This is the mistake that godbots make, they assume that the hurdles they invent for science do not apply to themselves, like they are immune form fact or something.

The infinite regression argument is invalid against existence of God, as it is stipulated as "eternal" - independent of time.

It works against items such as plants, animals, the universe, as they are not independent of time.

Buck Crick

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#158684 Mar 6, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
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You have one brain cell, and it is fighting for dominance or you could be possessed by a retarded deity.
One thing is certain - we all spring from apes, you just didn't spring far enough.
We all sprang from apes?

Have you told your mother?

Buck Crick

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#158685 Mar 6, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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You mean, "believe" as in, the evidence suggests that I should be able to follow instructions or do you mean, "I believe that I can close my eyes and pray to the one who inspired the book to be written, the one for which there is no evidence for, and he will fix my car"?
Let me see. What if I read the car manual like christians read the bible? I might change the oil filter and wonder why my tire is still flat.
I would argue with the cop saying, "The light is not out! You just have to believe in it to see it!"
Or maybe I would damned my mechanic because he didn't fix the car the way I would have.
No, when I say that I believe something, it is because there is evidence to support it and if I believe something and someone proves me wrong, I change my beliefs to follow the evidence.
When you say believe, you mean 'blind faith'. No evidence, no research, no questioning, and no listening to other points of view.
That's not what "believe" means.

You believe many things you don't know.

Buck Crick

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#158686 Mar 6, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Exactly. And we know how effective prayer is.
No. We do not.

Buck Crick

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#158687 Mar 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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A good school doesn't teach you what to think.
It teaches you how.
Your school has failed you miserably.
School teaches you how to think?

What was your brain doing before you entered a school - playing cards with your kidneys?

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Lamar, CO

#158688 Mar 6, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Exactly. And we know how effective prayer is.
Buck Crick wrote:
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No. We do not.
These clowns expect direct responses to direct requests. Poofing on demand because you requested. Plus they expect it with no payment. Shows the limits of their minds.

They ignore the roundabout ways prayers can get answered. Mostly because they lack the mental wherewithal to recognize such things.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#158689 Mar 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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A good school doesn't teach you what to think.
It teaches you how.
Your school has failed you miserably.
Buck Crick wrote:
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School teaches you how to think?
What was your brain doing before you entered a school - playing cards with your kidneys?
He was playing with his brain. It was nice and squishy, like his doo doo.

Come to think of it...

Buck Crick

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#158690 Mar 6, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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*Raises hand*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-cDAqrywsHEXX
Atheism is not a belief. It's the realization that everything we were told as children was a lie. Probably not an intentional lie but a lie nonetheless.
Concluding that "everything we were told as children was a lie" is a belief. You cannot know it for sure, since you cannot even remember everything you were told as a child.

You mis-defined "atheism", but still could not remove the belief.

Atheism is the adoption of a belief. The belief is there is no god.

It is belief in the "no god" position.

It is amazing to watch how dishonest atheists are. They will say their position is "no belief", then proceed to state their belief.

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Lamar, CO

#158691 Mar 6, 2013

Buck Crick

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#158692 Mar 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Oh certainly he suffered brain damage from being knocked loopy. At his age and frail state any trauma to the head would be devastating. But he wasn't from his own account near death.
I have read about boxers having crazy dreams or hallucinations when knocked out.
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NDE does not fit into the parameters of hallucination.

You know nothing about the subject.

Even more certain, you know nothing about the physics and physiology occurring in Dave's experience.

You talk through your ass. Ass.
Imhotep

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#158693 Mar 6, 2013
Tiago wrote:
Não, rsrs. Os ateus não precisam de fé. Só precisam de ficar céticos sobre alegações sem evidência.
Deuses são imaginários!

Simplória pessoas sem senso de realidade ou razão.

Eu encontrá-los levemente divertido porém. ;)

Buck Crick

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#158694 Mar 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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I believe that most theists have an allergy to facts. That's my hypothesis, now I can't prove it yet, but I'm close to accumulating enough evidence to submit for peer review at this point.
But that's not a belief, of course. Right?

Just because you said "I believe..."?

Buck Crick

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#158695 Mar 6, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
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I agree sort of...
TopixBibleThumpers™ are indeed allergic to facts and severely challenged by reality.
JesusRoaches™ on the other hand are too delusional and obtuse to consider.
Most theists keep it to themselves like good little sheep should!
It gives them something to do on weekends.
Friday for Muslims
Saturdays for Judaism
Sundays for Xtians
I can give you something to do on weekends.

...but make sure your dentist is open on Mondays.

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#158696 Mar 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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I hope you don't go the auto parts store and ask for an infinite length fan belt.
HA HA HA !!!

They're in between the muffler bearings and turn signal fluid.

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