Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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#158306 Mar 4, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Obama guard dog agency.
Americans United for Separation of Church and State.
I see about everything they do is in his defense.
I see them as another one of his weapons, but that's just my POV.
I also see some of the stuff they do is good, but there's a string of things they are doing like he has them on his team, which is understandable and how big politics work.
As resident Nanci Larsen put it, "I'm not here supporting a religious symbol, but an integral part of my community's cultural and historic fabric." - See more at: http://www.pe.com/local-news/riverside-county...
Americans United for Separation of Church and State are a bunch of America-hating bastards.

I wouldn't piss on Barry Lynn's head if it was on fire.

What is so despicable is their hypocrisy - they pretend they believe in something.

They want this country to be China.

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#158307 Mar 4, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I disagree.
I don't like slippery slopes. First, the cross on the hill. Next,...
The Constitution matters.
And yes, California IS a republic by the way.
The Constitution?

It prohibits that cross in no part.

If I'm missing a clause that prohibits crosses on public land, please point it out to me.

I think it is not there. I know I have never seen it.

Will you also knock down the crosses at Arlington?

Seems that is your duty, if you love the Constitution, and there is something in the Constitution that prohibits crosses on public land.

I think you are fudging. I think you will have to find such a prohibition somewhere OTHER than the Constitution.

Prove me wrong.
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Thinking

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#158308 Mar 4, 2013
And that's Walmart's job.
Buck Crick wrote:
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They want this country to be China.
blacklagoon

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#158309 Mar 4, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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The issue was teaching random abiogenesis as the sole reason for our existence. No deities or intelligent designers. All based upon conjecture.
I didn't think you would be smart enough to realize how that establishes an official declaration of atheism as the state religion.
Once again numbnuts.......the teaching of evolution says NOTHING about how life started. Why don't you know this????????/

Even IF that were the case on one hand we have abiogenesis a concept rooted in the physical world. On the other, ID, we have a concept rooted in the supernatural, a realm that can only be imagined. Now if you want to teach ID as a myth, like any of the other myths, include it in the class were mythical greeks Gods are discussed.

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#158310 Mar 4, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I see the principle, the importance of ensuring compliance with the Constitution, as necessary.
What part of the Constitution was violated?

Explain.

Arlington National Cemeteryhttps://www.google.com /search?q=picture+of+crosses+a t+arlington+cemetery&hl=en &tbm=isch&tbo=u&so urce=univ&sa=X&ei=Z6o0 Uc-_Mqjq2AWlk4CICg&ved=0CD AQsAQ&biw=1008&bih=595 #imgrc=1BpU_aJ-2Lj7IM%3A%3BU2q _5raouX_iWM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%2 52Fwww.arlingtoncemetery.net%2 52Fcanadian-cross01.jpg%3Bhttp %253A%252F%252Fwww.arlingtonce metery.net%252Fcanadian-cross. htm%3B500%3B326

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#158313 Mar 4, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
I know...what's wrong with me?
Wait...why do you spend a lot of time bickering with atheists?
They started it!
Uhm...you missed my point about them actually carrying out the Buddhist and Shinto rituals. So, no, they don't.
We have a very different understanding of responsibility than you do - ours is shared, not individual. That generally leads to less outright acts of intolerance and greater social punishment for difference (with a few people, like in America, snapping).

Wow. You see, that's an American thing. You guys are very individualistic, with individual rights held in the highest of esteem. That lets people think "hey, that cross breaks the rules by being on government property. I want it down! My want is more important than anyone else's want!"
That just couldn't happen here. We also have a different notion of history - that historical monuments are either extremely important and must be maintained or worthless, to be destroyed in the face of modernity. I suspect the cross would stay and people would ignore, ridicule or placate the loan complainer, depending on how charismatic they were.
Interesting.

Plus, you guys have anime & chopsticks.

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#158315 Mar 4, 2013
Over the last 40-50 years a la la land has been created by nut case activists leveraging the political scene. The pandering for votes let them in. They are the driven ones who organize and scream and present a false picture of common thought or sense.

Their nut caseism has generated reactions, reactions that are larger than their actual numbers and power are.

They have been chipping away at the foundations that allowed them to come to power. We are entering a period where those foundations will crumble and they will get buried. It is unlikely to be real pretty.

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#158316 Mar 4, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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What's being married like?
It's like a life long orgy with one person.

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#158317 Mar 4, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Once again numbnuts.......the teaching of evolution says NOTHING about how life started. Why don't you know this????????/
Even IF that were the case on one hand we have abiogenesis a concept rooted in the physical world. On the other, ID, we have a concept rooted in the supernatural, a realm that can only be imagined. Now if you want to teach ID as a myth, like any of the other myths, include it in the class were mythical greeks Gods are discussed.
First, even Hiding admitted abiogenesis is "necessary" for current evolutionary theory.

Second, ID is not rooted in anything supernatural.

In other words, something undiscovered and unknown to exist is necessary for evolution, but not for ID.

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#158318 Mar 4, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
Annoying :)
First, the music starts as early as November, sometimes right at the beginning. It mostly signals a change in fashion seasons.
Then it gets better. The day itself is for couples. The boy takes the girl out to a really expensive restaurant, and then hotel where she returns the favor.
Ah, Christmas!
Similar here. We get the Christmas "season" now starting just after Halloween. The entire month of December is the same old Christmas music in every retail store. No one likes it, but they play it anyway.

Oh, then there's the lights, the lights, the lights, and then some more lights. The trees, presents, mistletoe, garland, wreaths, pumpkin pies, blah, blah, blah, blah.....

BAH!

Humbug!

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#158319 Mar 4, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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What do you want children to learn? You want them to be not be told what the consensus of scientists is and what the state of the discipline is?
Evolution is the framework theory for all biological sciences. It the only scientific theory that unifies all disparate biological phenomena under one explanatory umbrella.
So...what should we tell them? Should we just lie to them and talk about magic?
Should we have Muslim biology after Creationist Biology? Alchemy after Chemistry? Astrology after Astronomy?
Should we teach them "yeah, scientists have these ideas about how planets orbit the sun, but there are competing theories about solar evolution that include God doing it 6000 years ago. Sure, it's a 17th century idea that is officially removed from Catholic doctrine, but we're going to teach it to you anyways. Equal time for all ideas! And now, class, on to the validity of Mayan human sacrifice instead of Easter."
How about they teach they *think* it happened this way.....?

I remember reading my science books in school & I've recently read my sons high school science books, they don't propose any other explanation other that "this is the way it happened". NOT "This is the way it could've happened".

It indocrinates the kids into what you believe.

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#158320 Mar 4, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>So you advocate withholding factual information from children? The process of evolution is simply a fact, that debate has been over for sometime now. Why do you think withholding information from the young mind is a good idea?
I thought you were smarter than to think that evolution had anything to do with how life came to be, I guess not!!! You're scaring me now....you do know that evolution says NOTHING about how life came to be right???
What fact are you talking about?

What is the "fact" of evolution?

It would help if, when claiming something is a fact, you could say what the fact is.

There are at least 9 definitions of evolution is scientific literature.

When you say it's a "fact", you have said nothing.

Some of the terms called "evolution" might be fact, but some clearly are not fact.

You are a moron. That's a fact.

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#158321 Mar 4, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
You love to put words in peoples mouths
I wanna do more than that.....

C'mon, big boy.

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#158322 Mar 4, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
Riverside isn't selling the property with the cross on it to shut up anybody.
The sale is required so that the City doesn't run afoul of the U.S. Constitution.
Heard of it? First Amendment and all that?
Even Buck knows about that.
The FFRC hasn't been able to prove that the cross is representing a national religion - which would violate the 1st Amendment. In order to save worthless court costs due to a few bickering atheists, they decided to shut them up by selling the property to a private citizen.

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#158323 Mar 4, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You mean it is a requirement in the People Republic of California?
It seems more a non-issue and a complete waste of time to argue about such trivial things.
It is a waste of time. And it's very selfish of the atheists to want a city landmark removed because it hurt their delicate feelings.

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#158324 Mar 4, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Who did what in D.C.?
Me! Me! I know! <with hand raised>

The Supreme Court. They lied about the Constitution, saying it contains provisions that prohibit such things as crosses on public land. They made folklore into official legal doctrine.

Seeing as how our education system is far-left, they started teaching empty skulls that the Constitution actually prohibits such things. Then a Communist group called the ACLU (I don't know if they are headquartered in Washington) amassed a lot of money from America-hating donors, and can now intimidate any municipality from having anything displayed that the America-haters find objectionable.

The End.

I'll be here all week.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#158325 Mar 4, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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I have a piece of glass from a beer bottle embedded in my head.
Also, a link out of a motorcycle chain.
I would get them removed, but it's a hoot to peck on them with a spoon in time with the music in clubs.
Well...

That explains a lot.

I'll try to be nicer to you.

Not much, though.

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