Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

There are 258485 comments on the Webbunny tumblelog story from Jul 18, 2009, titled Atheism requires as much faith as religion?. In it, Webbunny tumblelog reports that:

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#158127 Mar 3, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Cool.
Got any idea how these disparate chemicals came together so they could do those neato thingies?
How would they all wind up in the same ooze to have their little orgy?
Some of those are complex chemical chemicals, so how did those manage to occupy the same space and time, also?
To answer you and RR in one post , his question being....

"I'd like to know how Mr Aura "knows" that elements became life all on their own."

I specifically stated no one can yet answer how exactly or why exactly. We can answer it did and all life's biosphere is here to prove that. We can see it's progression through the fossil record
and through DNA mapping showing evolution is a fact.
Denying this process weakens any argument for god.
You can draw whatever conclusions you want from this statement.
As to the exactly how or why this process ensued, I do not pretend to know. But see it as a natural process of the universe and matter reacting to the forces of nature.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#158128 Mar 3, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>From reading this and other posts of yours, you should stay away fro anything that has to do with science. Its a topic completely foreign to you. Take a class in massage therapy, much more your style!!! LOL
You're a dickhead.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#158129 Mar 3, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Hey look....another stupid Theist who has NO IDEA what a THEORY means, stocking!!!!! Really.....Humm lets see here.....MUSIC THEORY must not be real, I can't use it as evidence for a Bach Fugue......Oh well, stupid begets stupid. P.S. Next time you trip over your untied shoelaces and bash you head on the ground, try and remember that the THEORY of GRAVITY can't be used as evidence when you tell the doctor what happened........Just when I thought I knew the definition of stupid, you come along!!!!!
Hey dickhead, learn the differences between the Law of Gravity and the Theory of Gravity.

.......if you can learn.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#158130 Mar 3, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
Really.....Humm
LOL, this is the best part of your little post.

I could auto tune it for ya.

Really.....Humm

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Really.....Humm

-chick chick-

Really.....Humm

-chick-

R...R...R...R...Really.....Hum m

Humm Humm Humm Humm mmmmmmmmm

-chicka chick cheek cheeka

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#158131 Mar 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> To answer you and RR in one post , his question being....
"I'd like to know how Mr Aura "knows" that elements became life all on their own."
I specifically stated no one can yet answer how exactly or why exactly. We can answer it did and all life's biosphere is here to prove that. We can see it's progression through the fossil record
and through DNA mapping showing evolution is a fact.
Denying this process weakens any argument for god.
You can draw whatever conclusions you want from this statement.
As to the exactly how or why this process ensued, I do not pretend to know. But see it as a natural process of the universe and matter reacting to the forces of nature.
Golly, Aura. You could've just said "I have no idea, so I'll drop it."

....

Evolution doesn't weaken an argument for God, if anything it strengthens it.

Same thing for abiogenesis.

If man can create a life, you lose.

If "nature" can evolve life, you lose.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#158132 Mar 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> To answer you and RR in one post , his question being....
"I'd like to know how Mr Aura "knows" that elements became life all on their own."
I specifically stated no one can yet answer how exactly or why exactly. We can answer it did and all life's biosphere is here to prove that. We can see it's progression through the fossil record
and through DNA mapping showing evolution is a fact.
Denying this process weakens any argument for god.
You can draw whatever conclusions you want from this statement.
As to the exactly how or why this process ensued, I do not pretend to know. But see it as a natural process of the universe and matter reacting to the forces of nature.
Like a orchid seed turns into an orchid?

All natural?
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#158133 Mar 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
*shrugs*
I don't do this stuff, but they assume that the first living organism came from simple molecules that were in the Earth's oceans.
Between 3.5 to 3.8 billion years ago...
LMAO! "they" think up some crazy shit.
He shrugs.......then admits "I don't do thuds stuff" I guess he means educating himself, and then proclaims..."They think up some crazy shit."..........A new definition has just been added to the word STUPID!!!!!!! LOL

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#158134 Mar 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Golly, Aura. You could've just said "I have no idea, so I'll drop it."
....
Evolution doesn't weaken an argument for God, if anything it strengthens it.
Same thing for abiogenesis.
If man can create a life, you lose.
If "nature" can evolve life, you lose.

Denial of evolution weakens an argument for god.
Denial of abiogenesis weakens an argument for god.

Perhaps your argument should show how god made these things happen , or show it is likely something was in fact guiding these processes. Instead of denying they did , which is self defeating in light of human knowledge. If you could use human knowledge in your argument, you would appear intelligent.
Very few of creationist believers are able to do this, but this is the goal of intelligent design. You see at least some Christians are smart enough to see this.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#158135 Mar 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!
Before you call someone ignorant, learn how to spell "being"...
Major clue that one has been defeated and has no answer........Points to spelling errors!!!!......Next will come grammar!! LOL

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#158136 Mar 3, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Like a orchid seed turns into an orchid?
All natural?

Yes this is a natural process, one that has been repeated for hundreds of thousands of years. If an orchid seed turns into an bird,
now that would be highly unnatural.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#158137 Mar 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, but He feeds the other 1,999,820,000 children.
Did you thank Him for that today?
Holy shit what a dipshit....Thats like saying we should all thank John Wayne Gacey because he didn't torture, murder and then eat thousand of young boys!! Have we thanked Hitler for not killing ALL of the jews? And you can't even begin to see how utterly stupid your comment is.....pathetic!!!!!
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#158138 Mar 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
WTF?
Are you trying to make him into your perfect man?
Just trying to help a disturbed individual with his delusions of grandeur!!!
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#158139 Mar 3, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
You are on a roll today.
The Viagra worked?
Thanks for noticing!!!
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#158140 Mar 3, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You're a dickhead.
Compared to you, thats a step up!!!!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#158141 Mar 3, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Just trying to help a disturbed individual with his delusions of grandeur!!!
You sure don't appear to need any help with yours.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#158142 Mar 3, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Take your selection, we will enjoy that part. ;)
http://www.nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/thomas_...
http://www.faithofourfathers.net/jefferson.ht...
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His father, in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." ~Thomas Jefferson
Thank you.

This proves my point against GiveMeLiverwurst.

Of course, you don't know how it helps my argument, because you don't know my reasoning for bringing it up.

Jefferson said he was a "christian", but only in the sense that he was a follower of the teachings of Jesus. He was a Deist. He did not believe Jesus was God.

Hence Eben Alexander was a christian in the since of "a follower of the teachings of Christ".

But he did not believe in God or heaven, and he believed NDEs were chemical manifestations of the dying brain.

Now, he believes differently.

Hint: Don't ever let yourself think you can inform me of anything I don't know about American history.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#158143 Mar 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Denial of evolution weakens an argument for god.
Denial of abiogenesis weakens an argument for god.
Perhaps your argument should show how god made these things happen , or show it is likely something was in fact guiding these processes. Instead of denying they did , which is self defeating in light of human knowledge. If you could use human knowledge in your argument, you would appear intelligent.
Very few of creationist believers are able to do this, but this is the goal of intelligent design. You see at least some Christians are smart enough to see this.
Abiogenesis is not human knowledge, though. It's a possibility, nothing more. It's something that some people thought up to try to explain where life began and how life began. But it is not a fact.

Organisms evolve, that's a fact. The theory of evolution has many holes in it and many guesses. The most notable guess of the theory of evolution is that "all life came from one life". That is not a fact, that is an assumption.

And it seems so strange to me that people that call themselves "freethinkers" blindly follow whatever they read in a science magazine or an atheist website.

RiversideRedneck

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Since: Jul 12

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#158144 Mar 3, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>He shrugs.......then admits "I don't do thuds stuff" I guess he means educating himself, and then proclaims..."They think up some crazy shit."..........A new definition has just been added to the word STUPID!!!!!!! LOL
You become a good little obedient troll. Congratulations.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#158145 Mar 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Do you know the chemical that is released when the brain begins to suffocate and why that chemical is released?
No, but if you hum a few bars, I'll try to pick up on it.

(Dimethyltryptamine -a neurotransmitter that is hallucinogenic)

But sorry, it is of no help in explaining the phenomenon of NDE.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#158146 Mar 3, 2013
Which degree do you want to hear about head injury Geezer? Again you didn't even have an NDE.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You haven't told us what your degree is in.
You haven't addressed my post about translocation of consciousness.
You haven't displayed much intelligence or education. Just immature bluster and bullshit as an attempted substitute. Early exposure to drugs.
You evidently have insufficient life experience.
You are trying to ascribe your freak outs and trips on drugs, a strictly chemical effect from outside the head, to all occurrences. Due to such occurring at an early age, you have no measuring stick, so grab that chemical cause to explain everything beyond your limited experience.
What was your degree in, again?

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