Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#157952 Mar 3, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Ignores its use colloquially and the definitions in most dictionaries these days...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/atheism
"disbelief in or denial of the existence of gods"
Don't even humor this argument.

This moron has been trying his word games in an effort to portray atheists as the same as believers because that's the only way he can claim superiority.

If he had any real arguments, he would use them.

All he can do is play word games, quite his ID heroes, play word games and make threats.

He's a 300 (or whatever) pound, thumb sucking baby.

And he's dangerous.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#157953 Mar 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't even humor this argument.
This moron has been trying his word games in an effort to portray atheists as the same as believers because that's the only way he can claim superiority.
If he had any real arguments, he would use them.
All he can do is play word games, quite his ID heroes, play word games and make threats.
He's a 300 (or whatever) pound, thumb sucking baby.
And he's dangerous.
You're quite right, but I don't know about dangerous. I don't usually bother with him but I was wondering if he was really that slow or just a troll. Just shows what religion can do the human mind, perhaps?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#157954 Mar 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Correct and well-said.

There are no particles, and there is no matter, as such.

"As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such."

"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness."

-Max Planck, Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist
You got that from Dave's word salad?!

It's no wonder you can get whatever it is you want to get from a book like the bible.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#157955 Mar 3, 2013
atheists dont have a clue wrote:
<quoted text>Why doesn't everyone agree with you?
He hasn't gotten to beat everybody up.

Yet.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#157956 Mar 3, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>You're quite right, but I don't know about dangerous. I don't usually bother with him but I was wondering if he was really that slow or just a troll. Just shows what religion can do the human mind, perhaps?
If a tiny fraction of the things he has claimed to have done are true, he's plenty dangerous.

“Kalamazoo, MI ”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#157957 Mar 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
He hasn't gotten to beat everybody up.
Yet.
Might makes right?
dethrushmonks

Howell, MI

#157958 Mar 3, 2013
if god is real it doesn't matter because i donate to charity and am still going to heaven.. from not having received my consolation..

and uh.. he can't be real because.. see.. people had different religions...

native americans for instance still don't even believe in that religion even though they were colinized.. and blacks used to only accept their voodoo religion..

people from india stil have hinduism..

see there are too many religions to take your own even seriously..

why is my religion right and all the ohter ones wrong.. what is the conclusion..

we are ALL wrong..!! PERIOd there is NO GOd !! AT ALL..

“Kalamazoo, MI ”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#157959 Mar 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
If a tiny fraction of the things he has claimed to have done are true, he's plenty dangerous.
It is easy enough to research! Look for a college footballer who was arrested for the things that he claims, then match that with those who tried out for professional teams and has been locked up for mental issues.

With the internet, no one can hide!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157960 Mar 3, 2013
Physical bodies are loaner vehicles for spirits to drive. But instead of that spirit doing all of the driving, a totally separate consciousness, it is merged with the vehicle.

Just like any vehicle, it has limits and capabilities you have to learn.

That is why you can have a piece of shit driving a Ferrari, and a diamond driving a rambling wreck.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157961 Mar 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't even humor this argument.
This moron has been trying his word games in an effort to portray atheists as the same as believers because that's the only way he can claim superiority.
If he had any real arguments, he would use them.
All he can do is play word games, quite his ID heroes, play word games and make threats.
He's a 300 (or whatever) pound, thumb sucking baby.
And he's dangerous.
Atheists are believers.

I didn't invent the terms - Greeks did it hundreds of years before I was even born.

Take your stupid gripes to them.

If you don't want to embrace atheism, if it embarrasses you, if it makes you feel inferior, then don't call yourself an atheist.

It's your choice, not mine.

And fuck you.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157962 Mar 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
You got that from Dave's word salad?!
It's no wonder you can get whatever it is you want to get from a book like the bible.
Max Planck is not a biblical character. He was a Nobel physicist.

Hope that clears up your confusion.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157963 Mar 3, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>You're quite right, but I don't know about dangerous. I don't usually bother with him but I was wondering if he was really that slow or just a troll. Just shows what religion can do the human mind, perhaps?
Slow?

A Topix slogger calling me "slow".

Great stuff.

“Kalamazoo, MI ”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#157964 Mar 3, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Physical bodies are loaner vehicles for spirits to drive. But instead of that spirit doing all of the driving, a totally separate consciousness, it is merged with the vehicle.
Just like any vehicle, it has limits and capabilities you have to learn.
That is why you can have a piece of shit driving a Ferrari, and a diamond driving a rambling wreck.
I remember reading that in the Bible. Ruth I believe.

“Kalamazoo, MI ”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#157965 Mar 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheists are believers.
I didn't invent the terms - Greeks did it hundreds of years before I was even born.
Take your stupid gripes to them.
If you don't want to embrace atheism, if it embarrasses you, if it makes you feel inferior, then don't call yourself an atheist.
It's your choice, not mine.
And fuck you.
Oh my! I just tingle all over when you talk like that! ;)

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#157966 Mar 3, 2013
atheists dont have a clue wrote:
<quoted text>Might makes right?
In Buck's case, yes.

At least, he thinks it does.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#157967 Mar 3, 2013
dethrushmonks wrote:
if god is real it doesn't matter because i donate to charity and am still going to heaven.. from not having received my consolation..

and uh.. he can't be real because.. see.. people had different religions...

native americans for instance still don't even believe in that religion even though they were colinized.. and blacks used to only accept their voodoo religion..

people from india stil have hinduism..

see there are too many religions to take your own even seriously..

why is my religion right and all the ohter ones wrong.. what is the conclusion..

we are ALL wrong..!! PERIOd there is NO GOd !! AT ALL..
Yup.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#157969 Mar 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Max Planck is not a biblical character. He was a Nobel physicist.

Hope that clears up your confusion.
Now you comparing Dave's word salad to Max Planck?

Rofl!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#157970 Mar 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
The body itself brings on the hallucination.
<quoted text>
That's brilliant, Moron.

Let's compare your brilliant analysis with the neurosurgeon and neuroendocrinologist that ACTUALLY HAD THE EXPERIENCE.

The audience can decide who is more credible, the neurosurgeon, or the Moron. This is Alexander's response to being insulted by Sam Harris:

"In an effort to explain the “ultra-reality” of the experience, I examined this hypothesis: Was it possible that networks of inhibitory neurons might have been predominantly affected, allowing for unusually high levels of activity among the excitatory neuronal networks to generate the apparent “ultra-reality” of my experience? One would expect meningitis to preferentially disturb the superficial cortex, possibly leaving deeper layers partially functional. The computing unit of the neocortex is the six-layered “functional column,” each with a lateral diameter of 0.2–0.3 mm. There is significant interwiring laterally to immediately adjacent columns in response to modulatory control signals that originate largely from subcortical regions (the thalamus, basal ganglia, and brainstem). Each functional column has a component at the surface (layers 1–3), so that meningitis effectively disrupts the function of each column just by damaging the surface layers of the cortex. The anatomical distribution of inhibitory and excitatory cells, which have a fairly balanced distribution within the six layers, does not support this hypothesis. Diffuse meningitis over the brain’s surface effectively disables the entire neocortex due to this columnar architecture. Full-thickness destruction is unnecessary for total functional disruption. Given the prolonged course of my poor neurological function (seven days) and the severity of my infection, it is unlikely that even deeper layers of the cortex were still functioning in more than isolated pockets of small networks.
The thalamus, basal ganglia, and brainstem are deeper brain structures (“subcortical regions”) that some colleagues postulated might have contributed to the processing of such hyperreal experiences. In fact, all agreed that none of those structures could play any such role without having at least some regions of the neocortex still functional. All agreed in the end that such subcortical structures alone could not have handled the intense neural calculations required for such a richly interactive experiential tapestry.
There are 9 hypotheses discussed in an appendix of my book that I derived based on conversations with colleagues. None of them explained the hyper-reality in any brain-based fashion."

It's simple, huh Moron? The body did it.

You are pathetic.

“Kalamazoo, MI ”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#157971 Mar 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
In Buck's case, yes.
At least, he thinks it does.
You don't think that Buck is that stupid, do you?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#157972 Mar 3, 2013
Self admitted Christian and he doesn't even try to hide this. You quivering man-boobs and spare tires that shake with rage during your temper tantrums doesn't change this.

Next up green leafy vegetables are good for you!
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a liar, and you are also wrong.
Eben Alexander, ATTENDED an Episcopal church. He was a Christian!

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