Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#157829 Mar 2, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>A scientific theory has been tested repeatedly and is correct for all observed results.
"Wikipedia:
If anyone finds a case where all or part of a scientific theory is false, then that theory is either changed or thrown out.

A scientific theory in one branch of science must hold true in all of the other branches of science.

From Nova:

"For decades, every attempt to describe the force of gravity in the same language as the other forces—the language of quantum mechanics—has met with disaster

S. JAMES GATES, JR.: You try to put those two pieces of mathematics together, they do not coexist peacefully.

The laws of nature are supposed to apply everywhere. So if Einstein's laws are supposed to apply everywhere, and the laws of quantum mechanics are supposed to apply everywhere, well you can't have two separate everywhere.

BRIAN GREENE: In the years since, physics split into two separate camps: one that uses general relativity to study big and heavy objects, things like stars, galaxies and the universe as a whole and another that uses quantum mechanics to study the tiniest of objects, like atoms and particles. This has been kind of like having two families that just cannot get along and never talk to each other...

There just seemed to be no way to combine quantum mechanics...
and general relativity in a single theory that could describe the universe on all scales.

So here's the question: if you're trying to figure out what happens in the depths of a black hole, where an entire star is crushed to a tiny speck, do you use general relativity because the star is incredibly heavy or quantum mechanics because it's incredibly tiny?

Well, that's the problem. Since the center of a black hole is both tiny and heavy, you can't avoid using both theories at the same time. And when we try to put the two theories together in the realm of black holes, they conflict. It breaks down. They give nonsensical predictions. And the universe is not nonsensical; it's got to make sense."

“Sweden more democratic thanUSA”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#157830 Mar 2, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Sometimes. Sometimes not.
It depends on what mood they are in, or who is speaking.
umm Intelligent Design isn't science

Since: Oct 12

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#157831 Mar 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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First, he never said organisms were "created" at all, and he certainly didn't state that evolution answers the beginning of life. Also he has not actually said that there is no god, just that the christian god cannot exist, and I concur with him on that. I don't much like some of his personality traits, but you must be honest when speaking about someone anyone can watch and read on.
You mean this James Watson? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watson
You will have to be more specific, as in actual references where he said those things, because the way you post it makes you look dishonest. This, combined with your complete misrepresentation of Dawkins, actually makes your entire argument questionable.
Now, you have a bit to learn about scientific theories, they are not some wild guess answer, they are not just "this is how I see it" assertions, they are not assertions at all, actually. They are, in fact, an explanation of how pieces of information fit together. A theory is only accepted after a lot of testing, verification, and evidence is collected. So no, there is no alternate theory to the theory of evolution just as there is no alternate theory to relativity or chemical theory.
I know what i'm talking about, both James watson and Dawkins said those things!

HE DID SAY IT! He said evolution proves there is no creator!! Dawkins said that he would not even consider a scientific god.

I have nothing against Dawkins, i like him, but sometimes i don't like his attitude!

I see what u mean tho, i'll find the quotes for u!

I know what theories are, i never said that. I said scientists r picking and choosing which parts of evidence to take into consideration.

That's where u r wrong. Physicists are clearly ignoring consciousness and it's affect on matter. We have evidence that consciousness affects atoms, but they just ignore it, coz they want to.

Since: Oct 12

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#157832 Mar 2, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Just because somebody knows things that you don't, or that you don't agree with does not mean they claim to know everything.
I don't know a single atheist who claims to know everything.
I know several religious people who do make that claim.
what r u talking about, batty?

I said all STUPID atheists and religious people...! I did not say all atheists or religious people were stupid!

I'm talking about the stupid one's!

Since: Oct 12

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#157833 Mar 2, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Religious people who speak out about science do so because it conflicts with their religious beliefs, not because they have controverting evidence.
I'm not talking as a religious person, i'm talking as a student of science! I have the right to question both religion AND science!

Most Indian people have never been against science, we love science and we r very good at it! But what's starting to piss me off is that science is turning into a friggin' religion! Don't question the theories or we'll throw u out of our 'club' and call u thick!!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157834 Mar 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yet you constantly speak of it's best to believe because of what happens after you die. Your hallucination and delusion comfort you.
My knowledge of death in what way? Decomposing of the body? How brain function ceases? Autopsy?
Are you trying to claim your near death hallucination gives your some special insight to what happens after we die?
Grow up Dave.
<quoted text>
Oh, you pay attention to what I write. Very good.

When you wake up and you ain't here no more, you will understand better.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#157835 Mar 2, 2013
So Buck thinks he is smart and not fat.

I'll let that sink in.
Buck Crick wrote:
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If I notice a "smart person" on here, compared to myself, I'll give them your message.
You effing moron.

Since: Oct 12

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#157836 Mar 2, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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But you KNOW there's a god, right?
NO, I DO NOT KNOW THERE IS A GOD!

THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IF U SPEAK OUT AGAINST SOME THEORIES OF SCIENCE U R CALLED A NUT! THIS IS RIDICULOUS!

DO WE NOT EVEN HAVE THE FREEDOM TO CHALLENGE THESE THEORIES. HAS THINKING FOR YOURSELF GONE DOWN THE DRAIN?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#157837 Mar 2, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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I know what i'm talking about, both James watson and Dawkins said those things!
HE DID SAY IT! He said evolution proves there is no creator!! Dawkins said that he would not even consider a scientific god.
I have nothing against Dawkins, i like him, but sometimes i don't like his attitude!
I see what u mean tho, i'll find the quotes for u!
I know what theories are, i never said that. I said scientists r picking and choosing which parts of evidence to take into consideration.
That's where u r wrong. Physicists are clearly ignoring consciousness and it's affect on matter. We have evidence that consciousness affects atoms, but they just ignore it, coz they want to.
“The only watchmaker is the blind forces of physics.”
&#8213; Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

“The essence of life is statistical improbability on a colossal scale.”
&#8213; Richard Dawkins

“I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.”
&#8213; Richard Dawkins

“It would be intolerant if I advocated the banning of religion, but of course I never have."
&#8213; Richard Dawkins

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#157838 Mar 2, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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If I notice a "smart person" on here, compared to myself, I'll give them your message.
You effing moron.

Gee that's everybody including even Frankie Sue.
The argument clinic has many slightly over 1/4 watt bulbs.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#157839 Mar 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, you pay attention to what I write. Very good.

When you wake up and you ain't here no more, you will understand better.
Then next he will feel a nice warm feeling all over. Very warm, and warmer one might say hot even.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#157840 Mar 2, 2013
I understand the science of NDEs and the science of including green leafy vegetables in your daily diet. That one you should investigate! It will blow your mind!

Would you like me to explain the science about NDE hallucinations to you my large bellied small IQ poster?
Buck Crick wrote:
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Perfect illustration of the arrogance of "knowing it all".
You know nothing of the science involved in the experience, and nothing about the individual experience of it, yet you know more, allegedly, than the person experiencing it.
You are an idiot. If your brain was transplanted into a grasshopper, it would shit and hop backwards in its shit.

Since: Oct 12

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#157841 Mar 2, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Bullshit.
I'm disappointed in you.
I thought you were better than that.
WHAT?

Better than what? What have I done? Spoken out against accepted scientific theories? Oh no, burn me, I must be a witch!

U take me serious or not, but this new thinking that scientists are adopting from religious fanatics is not good, not good at all!

Since: Oct 12

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#157842 Mar 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Evolution doesn't even deal with that. Seriously you need to stop blending several sciences together like a smoothie. Scientists say they don't know all the time. It's what keeps science progressing seeking out those unknowns.
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Thank u, Mr liberty guy! Where would i be without u, eh! LOL!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157843 Mar 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I understand the science of NDEs and the science of including green leafy vegetables in your daily diet. That one you should investigate! It will blow your mind!
Would you like me to explain the science about NDE hallucinations to you my large bellied small IQ poster?
<quoted text>
What is your degree in?

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#157844 Mar 2, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Cool site.
Too bad you don't have the slightest clue what it means.
Still...good job trying to look smart.
Keep working on it.
It is indeed a very cool page--one of many at the NOAA site. Here it is again for anyone who didn't check it out the first time.

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SWN/index.html

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#157845 Mar 2, 2013
You mean when I wake up in Dave's NDE hallucination afterlife? Tsk.

I worked many years in a hospital and have spoken to many people brought back from near death. For most of them it was nothingness just like being asleep no heaven, no wonderland, no never never land.

I actually liked the non religious NDEs where they guy was at his grandma's eating dinner with his loved ones who were all still alive! Or the guy who was getting it on with 3 Latina chicks that one was funny! Basically you experience what you take with you. Muslims don't see Jesus, Protestants don't see mother Mary, Catholics don't see Muhammad and all of them don't see reason.

:))
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, you pay attention to what I write. Very good.
When you wake up and you ain't here no more, you will understand better.

Since: Oct 12

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#157846 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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" ALL STUPID atheists/religious people think they know-it-all!! "
This statement kind of puts you in that category. You can't possible know what "All" stupid atheists/religious people think.
That's kind of like the opening statement in a lot of children's dinosaurs books, it goes something like this: "no human has ever seen a real dinosaur."
A rather bold statement seeing as to the fact that the author has in noway asked every human that ever lived if they have ever saw a real dinosaur.
Yes, i do! Coz they tell me what they think! IT'S NOT A SECRET!

I was saying all atheists/religious people who r stupid think they know-it-all! no intelligent atheist/religious person would ever say that!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#157847 Mar 2, 2013
Your girls demand liberty!:)
Clementia wrote:
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Thank u, Mr liberty guy! Where would i be without u, eh! LOL!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#157848 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Then next he will feel a nice warm feeling all over. Very warm, and warmer one might say hot even.
He will be lucky to feel anything but emotional agony.

Getting roasted gives you something to do. Wishing you could exist as something, and can't, is a lot worse.

The boy is nothing but failed product.

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