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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#157345 Feb 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
So hitler killing all those Jews who he dubbed Christ killers was a good thing because of it's role in the reformation of Israel?
No atheist would say God may exercise his power to make something good happen out of a tragedy because atheists don't believe in any gods! Second of all you half wit if this god exercises his power to do such a thing that completely shatters your example of free will! If your god can exercise his power to help create that powder keg in the Middle East known as Israel why not exercise his power to save millions of Jews lives?
Wtf?!!
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Evidently, I have to repost again, because you didn't read it the first time, or you are mentally challenged.
Typical ignorance.
Christianity 101. All that is evil can only exist by an act of free will. This does not negate the power God may exercise to make something good emerge from a tragedy.
Just as family members who might lose a loved one to cancer, to make something good turn out of it by starting a new cancer-aware program.
A logical atheists would know this, and would not make this error. A rational atheists takes the time to learn the theology, before making such foolish remarks.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#157346 Feb 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
No they are not admissible.
<quoted text>
By what authority are they not admissible? Who are you to decide what is, and is not admissible of ancient records?
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#157347 Feb 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Oh yes I forgot all about those! I guess their god is cool with abortions after all!
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It would be an interesting statistic to discover how many still born and late term natural deaths occur. I'm willing to bet that God ending the life of a child in the womb is a number far in excess of abortion numbers whorl wide.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#157348 Feb 28, 2013
What evidence? you keep puking that out but refuse to provide such evidence. I wonder why?

:)
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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No, not proof. There is seldom proof when it comes to history in which a great deal of time has passed.
But the evidence is more than persuasive to an unbiased and logical mind.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#157349 Feb 28, 2013
So hitler killing all those Jews who he dubbed Christ killers was a good thing because of it's role in the reformation of Israel?

That's a yes or no question. Answer please.

No atheist would say God may exercise his power to make something good happen out of a tragedy because atheists don't believe in any gods! Second of all you half wit if this god exercises his power to do such a thing that completely shatters your example of free will! If your god can exercise his power to help create that powder keg in the Middle East known as Israel why not exercise his power to save millions of Jews lives?

If this god exercises his power to do such a thing doesn't that completely shatter your example of free will?

If this god exercises his power to do such a thing doesn't that completely shatter your example of free will?

If this god exercises his power to do such a thing doesn't that completely shatter your example of free will?

If this god exercises his power to do such a thing doesn't that completely shatter your example of free will?

If this god exercises his power to do such a thing doesn't that completely shatter your example of free will?

If this god exercises his power to do such a thing doesn't that completely shatter your example of free will?
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Evidently, I have to repost again, because you didn't read it the first time, or you are mentally challenged.
Typical ignorance.
Christianity 101. All that is evil can only exist by an act of free will. This does not negate the power God may exercise to make something good emerge from a tragedy.
Just as family members who might lose a loved one to cancer, to make something good turn out of it by starting a new cancer-aware program.
A logical atheists would know this, and would not make this error. A rational atheists takes the time to learn the theology, before making such foolish remarks.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#157350 Feb 28, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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Not at all. Just add up all the deaths ... not even close to modern warfare since World War I.
Unless there were quite a lot of people before the flood, but that is unknown.
Genocide? God is not partial to races. He made us all, and He can take it all away.
Yes, critical thinking skills ... the one think that most atheists completely lack. Just look at your post.
Did you just jump off the boat or something?

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#157351 Feb 28, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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Unlike the mythical Jesus Christ, we know what Caesar looked like and we have a complete history of his life. In turn, general, orator, historian, statesman and lawgiver. We have words written by Caesar himself and words written by both his friends and his enemies. Artifacts confirm his life and death, as do his successors. Caesar established a style of government – and a calendar – which endured for centuries.
Evidence that confirms the existence of Caesar is legion – in stark contrast to the utter dearth of evidence for Jesus.
"Jesus better documented than any other ancient figure"? Don't believe a word of it. Unlike the mythical Jesus, a real historical figure like Julius Caesar has a mass of mutually supporting evidence.
http://jesusneverexisted.com/exist.html
Not so. And your article provides no evidence to the contrary, just more opinions. People have lots of opinions about history, like that Medieval people thought the world was flat, or unwashed, etc. All of it false.

And the article does not appear to go into the SOURCE MATERIAL, the actual copies of sources, and how reliable the copiers were.

The fact remains ... a huge, world-changing religion emerged from Jesus, while Caesar did nothing profound at all, except try to make mass murder, backstabbing, and politics look good.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#157352 Feb 28, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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Wrong.
The case for Jesus has been challenged, and successfully defended for 2000 years. It was attacked when Christianity was still fresh, and all failed to discredit it.
There is plenty of secular evidence. No Christian, EVER, had to defend his faith, or explain this to you. Only you have the burden of proving all the evidence false in history. Good luck!
Yes, defended by Christians naturally. You do know that there are NO contemporary accounts for Jesus outside of the bible, right? Anything written about Jesus was written decades AFTER is supposed death.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#157353 Feb 28, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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By what authority are they not admissible? Who are you to decide what is, and is not admissible of ancient records?

You mean real evidence? Or more of that psychosuperreligioustitious evidence?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#157354 Feb 28, 2013
Because they didn't wrote them. These letters and gospels were written decades later by sweaty rich Romans who didn't even speak the language! Oh and throughout the centuries they have been rewritten and edited so many times it's comical! Not very accurate eh?
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>
By what authority are they not admissible? Who are you to decide what is, and is not admissible of ancient records?

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#157356 Feb 28, 2013
christianity is EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>
no one is asking you to worhips Cesar,dumbo
bible is inadmissible as its a colection of MYTHological fairy tales,but you already knew that,Im sure..
Why? Why in the world would a collection of records of Jesus's life be inadmissible? Of course it is not, it is the primary source. It is a book. And it is from books we learn history.

You don't get to pick and choose which books you will accept as evidence. Or, you reveal yourself to be a fraud and liar.

If ever you are accused of murder, let's see how your logic pans out. Oh, you can't testify on your own behalf, or your friends, right? Only people that don't know you may testify?

Disgusting.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#157357 Feb 28, 2013
Oh easily!
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>It would be an interesting statistic to discover how many still born and late term natural deaths occur. I'm willing to bet that God ending the life of a child in the womb is a number far in excess of abortion numbers whorl wide.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#157358 Feb 28, 2013
christianity is EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>
your wrong silly kristain
evolution is a FACT,not faith,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
The following was copied from your reference.

“Highly energetic chemistry is thought to have produced a self-replicating molecule around 4 billion years ago, and half a billion years later the last common ancestor of all life existed.”

Highly energetic chemistry? What the hell???

What highly energetic chemistry?

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#157359 Feb 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
So hitler killing all those Jews who he dubbed Christ killers was a good thing because of it's role in the reformation of Israel?
That's a yes or no question. Answer please.
No atheist would say God may exercise his power to make something good happen out of a tragedy because atheists don't believe in any gods! Second of all you half wit if this god exercises his power to do such a thing that completely shatters your example of free will! If your god can exercise his power to help create that powder keg in the Middle East known as Israel why not exercise his power to save millions of Jews lives?
If this god exercises his power to do such a thing doesn't that completely shatter your example of free will?
If this god exercises his power to do such a thing doesn't that completely shatter your example of free will?
If this god exercises his power to do such a thing doesn't that completely shatter your example of free will?
If this god exercises his power to do such a thing doesn't that completely shatter your example of free will?
If this god exercises his power to do such a thing doesn't that completely shatter your example of free will?
If this god exercises his power to do such a thing doesn't that completely shatter your example of free will?
<quoted text>
Not a yes or no answer. That’s what happened.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#157360 Feb 28, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Evidently, I have to repost again, because you didn't read it the first time, or you are mentally challenged.
Typical ignorance.
Christianity 101. All that is evil can only exist by an act of free will. This does not negate the power God may exercise to make something good emerge from a tragedy.
Just as family members who might lose a loved one to cancer, to make something good turn out of it by starting a new cancer-aware program.
A logical atheists would know this, and would not make this error. A rational atheists takes the time to learn the theology, before making such foolish remarks.
There is no such thing as "free will" Thought you knew. Your God thing is omnipotent, all seeing, all powerful, or so they say. He knows all, knows the future, knows exactly what will happen in the future. "Free will" is an illusion, there is nothing you can do but follow the pathway God has chosen for you. Do you really think you could make a conscious decision and do something other than what God has planed for you? Either your God can see the future and knows what will happen or not. If not, and you can actually make a choice, then your God is not omnipotent, if he is, then no "free will." Which is it!!! How about neither, since there is no God thing!!!!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#157361 Feb 28, 2013
And we see why Christian morality is sub human.

Oh hey I found your catch phrase!

Eagle12 wrote:
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Not a yes or no answer. That’s what happened.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#157362 Feb 28, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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False.
All science suggests design, not accident, in the universe. The evidence is abundant, which is why humanity has always sought who this designer was.
Or, are you making the bold claim that humanity is universally stupid and superstitious?:)
Holy shit are you people stupid or what!!!!! Science does NOT suggest design. Post the scientific article that has appeared in a reputable scientific journal that support such an idea. Otherwise armpit to blowing shit out your ass. And who ever said life was accidental? The evidence is NOT abundant and humanity has always sought a designer because complexity baffles them. That alone wit the intense fear of death.

What science does suggest is the FACT that the elements that make up the bulk of the human body are the exact same elements found in stars. Oxygen, helium, nitrogen, hydrogen, and carbon. Given those facts the only logical conclusion an intelligent person can make is that life is most likely abundant in the universe. Life is probably inevitable. The inevitable consequence of complex chemistry. Not much of an "accident" now is it?

You have it partially correct, humanity that is subjected to "religion" are universally stupid and obviously superstitious.

If you want to continue to bandy your God as being the designer of the human body, be prepared to admit that he sucks at design. A rib cage that doesn't fully enclose and protect our most vital organs....eyes wired backwards and upside down.......one orifice for eating and breathing, the cause of countless choking while easting deaths.(Can't be that difficult, he did it for whales and dolphins)....joints that wear out....eyes prone to retinal detachment.....and what designed would put our reproduction hardware in a sewer?.....a body so fragile that a mere slip and fall will kill us...ad it a up and you have a designer that either is terrible at what he does, or as the late great George Carlin said, "just maybe he doesn't give a shit."
bohart

White Pine, TN

#157363 Feb 28, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
The following was copied from your reference.
“Highly energetic chemistry is thought to have produced a self-replicating molecule around 4 billion years ago, and half a billion years later the last common ancestor of all life existed.”
Highly energetic chemistry? What the hell???
What highly energetic chemistry?
Yeah! highly energetic chemistry,ha,ha,ha. This is what passes for science in the evo puddle gooist faith.

Without testable hypotheses and repeatable results,all you have is personal opinion, not actual knowledge.
bohart

White Pine, TN

#157364 Feb 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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The difference, science has a lot of answers, the theory of evolution has most of those answers, you have none.
Without testable hypotheses and repeatable results , all you have is personal opinion, and an ignorant faith based one at that.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#157365 Feb 28, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
The following was copied from your reference.
“Highly energetic chemistry is thought to have produced a self-replicating molecule around 4 billion years ago, and half a billion years later the last common ancestor of all life existed.”
Highly energetic chemistry? What the hell???
What highly energetic chemistry?
Highly energetic would mean reactions that produce heat or other forms of energy. For instance a experiment using organic compounds were fired at hyper velocities into earthen targets to see if they could survive.
Exploding from these high kinetic energy speeds it was found they not only survive, the transformed into some of the building blocks of life. This means asteroid impacts on the early Earth may have played a role in forming life. That's why it says highly energetic chemistry. If you recall other experiments show bolts of lightening can do something similar to this also.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-...

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