Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[Thinking]

Pervs like you will f**k anything.

Dave Nelson wrote:

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:-)
It's harder to take a pot shot at me when I am in the middle of all those cows.

[mtimber]

Just Think wrote:

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You do understand that you are making absolutely no sense, right?

I am making perfect sense.

Account for absolute truth.

Can you account for absolute truth?

[RiversideRedneck]

Thinking wrote:

So god is not perfect.
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Your god or my God?

[Working for the Lord]

Thinking wrote:

So god is not perfect.
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Now that there's funny, fun intended.

[Dave Nelson]

Thinking wrote:

Pervs like you will f**k anything.
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Waste not, want not.

[Just Think]

mtimber wrote:

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I am making perfect sense.
Account for absolute truth.
Can you account for absolute truth?

According to you, absolute truth = god.

Since there is no god, there is no absolute truth according to your definition.

[RiversideRedneck]

Just Think wrote:

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According to you, absolute truth = god.
Since there is no god, there is no absolute truth according to your definition.

There is no god, huh?

hmmm....

Did you deduce this using some top secret god testing machine?

I'm sure you have detailed reports that all all peer reviewed and confirmed...

[mtimber]

Just Think wrote:

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According to you, absolute truth = god.
Since there is no god, there is no absolute truth according to your definition.

You cannot know anything absolutely unless you know everything.

You are an atheist and cannot, according to your worldview, have access to knowledge that allows you to account for anything.

Christians can know truths absolutely, because they accept the revelation of those truths from the one who does know everything.

But here is the kicker:

You do in fact, know much more than your atheism can account for.

You recognise absolutes, because you use them all the time.

You also know where they lead a person, so when it starts leading you to the place you cannot go, you have to deny absolutes.

That absurdity, of using absolutes and denying absolutes, reveals your worldview is actually nothing more than a desperate attempt to suppress the truth.

The Truth as revealed in the person of Jesus Christ...

You just don't like the truth, so you have to deny it...

[Just Think]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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There is no god, huh?
hmmm....
Did you deduce this using some top secret god testing machine?
I'm sure you have detailed reports that all all peer reviewed and confirmed...

There is not now, nor has there ever been, any proof that any god ever existed.

[Just Think]

mtimber wrote:

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You cannot know anything absolutely unless you know everything.
You are an atheist and cannot, according to your worldview, have access to knowledge that allows you to account for anything.
Christians can know truths absolutely, because they accept the revelation of those truths from the one who does know everything.
But here is the kicker:
You do in fact, know much more than your atheism can account for.
You recognise absolutes, because you use them all the time.
You also know where they lead a person, so when it starts leading you to the place you cannot go, you have to deny absolutes.
That absurdity, of using absolutes and denying absolutes, reveals your worldview is actually nothing more than a desperate attempt to suppress the truth.
The Truth as revealed in the person of Jesus Christ...
You just don't like the truth, so you have to deny it...

This should be fun...

What truths do Christians know absolutely?

[CunningLinguist]

mtimber wrote:

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If atheism is the logical progression of reason, then please account for the absolute laws of logic that transcend humanity...

Which was first - sea life, dinosaurs or humanity?
What does your logic tell you?
GODDIDIT?

If she did she really made a serious mess of things.

Poor God had to kill off her entire 1st attempt at creation save a 900 year old man and his family of clever carpenters and boat builders.

Then instead of at least tossing them a nail or two, he leaves them to complete the boat thus not being able to account for those pesky marsupials and a host of other life unknown to God at the time.

You see... God was the 1st creator of Alzheimers and also the very 1st victim of his disease.

10 important questions to be asked by any rational person as a guide to the question of whether or not there is a Christian God.

1. If logic is the hallmark that separates man from beast, why is religion then a matter of “faith”, rather than rationality?

2. If something cannot be proved, then why do people continue to believe in it?

3. Why is your religion any more valid than other religions?
Catholic, Protestant (any of many sects) Islam? Judaism?
Buddha? Hindu?

4. If the Christian God is monotheistic how can it also be triune with Jesus & the Holy Spirit?

5. If God was the father of Jesus via the “immaculate conception”, wasn’t Mary technically raped & impregnated against her will?

6. If Jesus was born to a mother who was unwed doesn’t that make him a bastard?

7. If “Christ died for your sins on the cross”, how much of a sacrifice was it really, considering he’s immortal?

8. Why do people continue to believe in religion’s gods when promises made for thousands of years have yet to be delivered, whereas, science has shown us the earth is NOT flat, the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around, medicine heals but prayers don’t, and although we can’t literally walk on water we can circumnavigate the globe underwater in a submarine and fly to the moon?

9. If God made the earth and then created a great flood to wipe it out, how could a perfect, infallible being make something needing to be destroyed and begun anew?

10. If God “gave his only son” to save us from our sins, then why do we have to do anything?

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
Albert Einstein

[mtimber]

Just Think wrote:

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There is not now, nor has there ever been, any proof that any god ever existed.

That is an absolute truth claim.

How is it that you think you have the authority to make such a claim?

Do you know everything?

Are you omniscient?

No.

So your arbitrary claim is ludicrous.

[macumazahn]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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There is no god, huh?
hmmm....
Did you deduce this using some top secret god testing machine?
I'm sure you have detailed reports that all all peer reviewed and confirmed...

It's really not that complicated. Despite your continuing attempts to shift the burden of proof.

Absent evidence, there's no reason to believe in a deity.

[mtimber]

Just Think wrote:

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This should be fun...
What truths do Christians know absolutely?

In the beginning God...

How do we know this?

Because the One who knows everything revealed it to us...

[mtimber]

Let us consider:

In the beginning a rockdidit...

Interesting claim that requires absolute knowledge, which clearly you do not have...

:-)

[socci]

Atheism: The NWO Lie

http://atheists.org/The_Enlightenment,_Freema...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason

http://www.creationism.org/books/TaylorInMind...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[mtimber]

CunningLinguist wrote:

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Which was first - sea life, dinosaurs or humanity?
What does your logic tell you?
GODDIDIT?
If she did she really made a serious mess of things.
Poor God had to kill off her entire 1st attempt at creation save a 900 year old man and his family of clever carpenters and boat builders.
Then instead of at least tossing them a nail or two, he leaves them to complete the boat thus not being able to account for those pesky marsupials and a host of other life unknown to God at the time.
You see... God was the 1st creator of Alzheimers and also the very 1st victim of his disease.
10 important questions to be asked by any rational person as a guide to the question of whether or not there is a Christian God.
1. If logic is the hallmark that separates man from beast, why is religion then a matter of “faith”, rather than rationality?
2. If something cannot be proved, then why do people continue to believe in it?
3. Why is your religion any more valid than other religions?
Catholic, Protestant (any of many sects) Islam? Judaism?
Buddha? Hindu?
4. If the Christian God is monotheistic how can it also be triune with Jesus & the Holy Spirit?
5. If God was the father of Jesus via the “immaculate conception”, wasn’t Mary technically raped & impregnated against her will?
6. If Jesus was born to a mother who was unwed doesn’t that make him a bastard?
7. If “Christ died for your sins on the cross”, how much of a sacrifice was it really, considering he’s immortal?
8. Why do people continue to believe in religion’s gods when promises made for thousands of years have yet to be delivered, whereas, science has shown us the earth is NOT flat, the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around, medicine heals but prayers don’t, and although we can’t literally walk on water we can circumnavigate the globe underwater in a submarine and fly to the moon?
9. If God made the earth and then created a great flood to wipe it out, how could a perfect, infallible being make something needing to be destroyed and begun anew?
10. If God “gave his only son” to save us from our sins, then why do we have to do anything?
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
Albert Einstein

I could of course take the time to deal with these internet cut and paste anti-theist arguments.

Or I could just ask you to account for Absolute Truth...

Your inability to do so, will reveal the truth of Gods existance.

[CunningLinguist]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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Waste not, want not.

When the chips are down, the buffalo is empty.

[mtimber]

macumazahn wrote:

<quoted text>It's really not that complicated. Despite your continuing attempts to shift the burden of proof.
Absent evidence, there's no reason to believe in a deity.

But here you have a problem...

As an atheist you cannot even account for reason...

[mtimber]

An atheist listening for Gods voice and not hearing it concludes there is no God.

Then someone points out the earplugs the atheist is wearing and the atheist has to deny they even know what an earplug is...