Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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#156118 Feb 24, 2013
It is really hilarious when you have these modern physics experts such as Poly tell you there is no deity because they haven't found one. Not that they were looking for one. So just sit back and take their assurances there is no deity, they are the experts in the matter, and ignore the fact they have made many huge mistakes in their past and continuing determinations of how things work. But they will sing to high heaven the minor predictions they make with their Holy Math worship.

Like I said before, they are just another sect of number worshipers and their high priests that go back a very long ways.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#156119 Feb 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Your model of gravity is based on the inside working out. Some magical force emanating from the nucleus. This is what the Big Bang is derived from. You are totally ignoring this universe being created from the outside pressing in. I have posted quite a bit about space being a super liquid type medium that formed whirlpools and closed spheres of whirling space forming "particles", and the density differential caused by that motion being gravity.
Why is modern physics so focused on looking out and determining how the universe was formed instead of looking backwards to see how it could be formed? We have the knowledge and the technology to follow that path.
Why is it when you religatards refute science you refer to mainstream theory as "Your Model" ?
Indeed many of those who want to argue standard physics and science
try to downgrade the subject matter by personalizing with the
person talking about standards. You should refer to it as
The Standard Model not Your Model. Or Classical Physics and not "your theory".

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#156120 Feb 24, 2013
Verily, verily I say unto thee, there is no god higher than Number.

So sayeth the worshipers of Nu and divide,mber.

Numbers are tools of men. Men have turned them in too gods.

In the beginning there was no numbers. There was just that which existed. The All. You can call it one if you wish. But since man usually had 10 fingers handy, he started dividing that all, and got mesmerized by this ability to divide. And divide, and divide, and divide, and divide, and divide, until he removed himself from one and began to fancy himself as unique.

He has been dizzy ever since with all these division he created.

Or something like that.

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#156121 Feb 24, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Why is it when you religatards refute science you refer to mainstream theory as "Your Model" ?
Indeed many of those who want to argue standard physics and science
try to downgrade the subject matter by personalizing with the
person talking about standards. You should refer to it as
The Standard Model not Your Model. Or Classical Physics and not "your theory".
Why do Topix atheists dispute the established definition of atheist?

The Your Model is a reactive description due to the advancement of it as a basis for non-belief by those non-believers who believe there is no deities.

If the non-beliefers kept the physics to simple analysis of cause and effect, then that sort of reaction would be less likely to come up. Curiously, though, is those non-believers then try to use that model based on cause and effect to advance the notion there is no cause and effect. Shit just happens.

Get some more balanced headed non-believers on here to discuss physics.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#156122 Feb 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Why do Topix atheists dispute the established definition of atheist?
The Your Model is a reactive description due to the advancement of it as a basis for non-belief by those non-believers who believe there is no deities.
If the non-beliefers kept the physics to simple analysis of cause and effect, then that sort of reaction would be less likely to come up. Curiously, though, is those non-believers then try to use that model based on cause and effect to advance the notion there is no cause and effect. Shit just happens.
Get some more balanced headed non-believers on here to discuss physics.

Now you are squirming around and making stuff up.
You are confusing standard physics with QM , you know they don't seethe same things the same. Atheists do not agree with the theist definition of atheist, for much the same reason a black man does not agree with the white mans definition of him.

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#156123 Feb 24, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Now you are squirming around and making stuff up.
You are confusing standard physics with QM , you know they don't seethe same things the same. Atheists do not agree with the theist definition of atheist, for much the same reason a black man does not agree with the white mans definition of him.
It's just a name tag. There are existing ones to describe one's self as a non-believer. Why the big deal? The term atheist has always been considered the term of one who "denies" the existence of a deity. Why the desperation to change the definition? If you are right, then you are right, right?

You are one of barely a handful of professed atheists on this forum that displays any intellect, original thinking, or human characteristic of a higher order. Most are nothing but screaming memes, spouting the same bullshit and insults. Reason and discourse evaporate when the noise level escalates. So much so I am classified as a Christian fundamentalist. You have got caught in the association with them.

Speaking of noise and the evaporation of reason and thinking. Have you thought of changing the type of music you seem to like? Something that allows you to think?:-)

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#156124 Feb 24, 2013
Speaking of path cutting.

Theism allows for looking outside the box and cutting a path toward it. You might hit a dead end, but you keep hacking and you may get there. You have to find the way.

Atheism has no vision to even look for a path to get out of this box. You stay stuck. If there isn't a straight road already paved for you, you mill around like cattle in a pen. And moo.

Or something like that.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#156125 Feb 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It's just a name tag. There are existing ones to describe one's self as a non-believer. Why the big deal? The term atheist has always been considered the term of one who "denies" the existence of a deity. Why the desperation to change the definition? If you are right, then you are right, right?
You are one of barely a handful of professed atheists on this forum that displays any intellect, original thinking, or human characteristic of a higher order. Most are nothing but screaming memes, spouting the same bullshit and insults. Reason and discourse evaporate when the noise level escalates. So much so I am classified as a Christian fundamentalist. You have got caught in the association with them.
Speaking of noise and the evaporation of reason and thinking. Have you thought of changing the type of music you seem to like? Something that allows you to think?:-)
I like many types of music, I prefer the kind that stirs my emotion. Without that all that's left is thinking.

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#156126 Feb 24, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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I like many types of music, I prefer the kind that stirs my emotion. Without that all that's left is thinking.
Midnight Rambler by the Stones always stirred my emotions, but not the most productive one's. In the intellectual sense, that is.

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#156127 Feb 24, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> We are talking about the very early universe, before 500,000 years.
But the physical laws existed since minutes after the fact.
You observed this?

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#156128 Feb 24, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Nothing is ever absolute , except in horseshoes and hand grenades.
Are you absolutely sure about that.:-)
Imhotep

Fruitland Park, FL

#156129 Feb 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Little one, atheists don't believe in deities.
Why do you display such an anger against a non-existent deity when it was random chance and reactions that cost you your leg? Was Jesus driving that car?
You are a beautiful young woman with a lot of soul and intelligence. Without that leg missing you would just be another one of millions. With that leg missing you become more unique and precious. If danger appears and you had two legs, you would run for your life by yourself. With one leg you will have a huge crowd gather about you to protect you.
Pray Dave, regrow that limb for her.
Nothing fails quite like prayer.

"Religion consists in a set of things which the average man thinks he believes and wishes he was certain of." ~Mark Twain

"Our Bible reveals to us the character of our god with minute and remorseless exactness... It is perhaps the most damnatory biography that exists in print anywhere. It makes Nero an angel of light and leading by contrast" ~Mark Twain

"If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be -- a Christian." ~Mark Twain

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#156130 Feb 24, 2013
The problem with secular atheism:

To know something to be absolutely true, you have to know everything.

Without knowing everything, you cannot state anything is aboslutely true...

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This is where atheism falls down.

If cannot account for "EVERYTHING", therefore it cannot account for "ANYTHING".

And yet ABSOLUTES exist and we are consciously aware of them.

Revealing the inbuilt knowledge that God gave us.

Now the atheist, when confronted with this, has two options:

1. Accept that absolutes exist and deny atheism.

2. Hold onto atheism and deny absolutes.

Most opt for option 2...

...Which they find preferable to facing the truth of Gods call to them.

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#156131 Feb 24, 2013
Cont...

The very act of denying absolutes, so that the atheist can hold onto his rejection of the source of absolutes, is the sure sign that they are in fact in polar opposition to the truth.

Their behaviour and denial, confirms the obvious truth.

In the beginning God...

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#156132 Feb 24, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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Pray Dave, regrow that limb for her.
Nothing fails quite like prayer.
"Religion consists in a set of things which the average man thinks he believes and wishes he was certain of." ~Mark Twain
"Our Bible reveals to us the character of our god with minute and remorseless exactness... It is perhaps the most damnatory biography that exists in print anywhere. It makes Nero an angel of light and leading by contrast" ~Mark Twain
"If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be -- a Christian." ~Mark Twain
Why should I? If a supreme deity wanted her to have another it would do it. And with considerably less pain than regrowing one. People aren't salamanders. Well, you might be.

I'm real glad the Creator withheld brains from spirits like you. You would be dangerous.

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#156133 Feb 24, 2013
The nature of truth, is such that it reveals error.

Gods existance is self-evident.

The arguments against that therefore, must always reduce themselves to illogicity.

Which they do, when you examine them logically.

So atheism actually proves Gods existance...

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#156134 Feb 24, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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God didnít stop Cain from killing his brother Able.
I don't believe that's his name.

“It's all about the struggle”

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#156135 Feb 24, 2013
Frank wrote:
Send your daughter to me. I abort them up to 9 months!
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That's sick.

“It's all about the struggle”

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#156136 Feb 24, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Awww...has the world changed on you, grandpa?
I'm sure you'd be more than smug if it became legal to sell human fetuses for food in the Walmart meat department.

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#156137 Feb 24, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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It was never about "equality".
It was about "endorsement".
Equality was already in force - a gay person could not marry another of the same sex, and neither could a straight person.
That's equality. The agenda is "endorsement".
Left-wingers are great at shrouding their agenda in nice-sounding words - like "equality".
See: Changing "gun control" to "gun violence control".
You forgot a rant about climate change.

And when you get around to it, we can discuss the First Amendment.

Separation of church and state and that sort of stuff.

I'm ready when you are, so start doing your warmups.

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