Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Feb 23, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I never said that, you did.
You admitted they both hold no evidence and neither can be disproven. So why do you accept one and not the other?
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Can you categorically prove that a soul does not exist, beyound all reasonable doubt?
I don't need to. The burden of proof is on YOU, RR.
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BTW I hear the flat earth society is looking for new members. Sounds like you'd fit the bill.
How so?
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Feb 23, 2013
 
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I can actually levitate my mind to a place no Theists can go. Not sure what you are besides someone who enjoys making pointless smart ass comments. Theist maybe?
I'm an atheist like yourself, but when I read drivel like your comment on "anti-soul" energy, I immediately switch to smartass mode. I've read your prior posts and concluded that you were levelheaded and rational, something sorely needed on this thread, then suddenly you start this sophomoric rant about untapped energy that only atheists and freethinkers have access to. Really? Very disappointing.

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Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Your journey will have an eternal price to pay. Go to the nearest Church of Christ and get baptized and start your journey with God as your guide on a journey of happiness that will never end, instead of the dead-end one you're about to take.
So people should worship your god out of fear? How sad...

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Quit your gd crying! Your god never said that slavery was wrong.
And niether have you. You don't give a damn about slavery.

If you did you would be trying to stop it.

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It's pretty disingenuous to compare an open practice that is defended as ethical to an illegal, underground practice.
A few Atheist bring up biblical slavery all the time. Never say a word about ongoing slavery. The fact is they donít give a damn about slavery. If they did they would be an advocate against it, but their not.

Iím the one that has to remind people that slavery is ongoing issue even today in nearly every country in the world. Lackadaisical attitudes works for slavery and not against it.

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So people should worship your god out of fear? How sad...
The same fear you would have if you did something wrong and your father found out about it, that kind of fear, the fear of a loving father who has to correct his child. Do you disapprove of a loving father doing his job?

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And niether have you. You don't give a damn about slavery.
If you did you would be trying to stop it.
We are, your slave owner is imaginary.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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A few Atheist bring up biblical slavery all the time. Never say a word about ongoing slavery. The fact is they donít give a damn about slavery. If they did they would be an advocate against it, but their not.
Iím the one that has to remind people that slavery is ongoing issue even today in nearly every country in the world. Lackadaisical attitudes works for slavery and not against it.
let us know when you get round to correcting your bible with the part that says all atheists are fools.

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Feb 23, 2013
 
Eagle12 wrote:
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A few Atheist bring up biblical slavery all the time. Never say a word about ongoing slavery.
Your complaint is nonsensical.

Biblical slavery is brought up because the Bible is claimed to be morally perfect. That has nothing to do with modern day slavery.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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LMAO!!!
"Doesn't exist within the physical, so it doesn't exist in our reality."
Spoken like a good little brainwashed atheist.
I'm not the one claiming something exists that there is absolutely zero evidence for it's existence. So who's the brain washed person here? You were told there is a soul, and are brainwashed into believing it.

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Befoef in the paranormal. Something that has always existed and will never go away.

Probably most us on this forum alone have had one or more experiences in life that were on the odd side. Of course, we are trained to shut them out, dismiss them, or seeks physical reasons for them. The SOP for them when you can't find a physical reason for them is to then just dismiss it. Then you have those of that get pulled down that trail in pursuit of what happened. This is how the belief in UFOs, ghosts, and trumpet playing atheists tapping into a vast resource of energy come about.

But they do happen. The physics stuff I have been presenting can explain the link that this very myopic following a single trail modern physics method can't. This ethereal link that has to exist by their own physics, yet they ignore it because they can't touch it. It isn't the physicist though that pronounce the it doesn't exist unless we write a paper on it, it is idiots like so many Topix atheists. A real scientist keeps an open mind, but forces themselves to follow a logic in investigating. Topix atheist going flying off into space with condensed versions of what science provides. They are on the wacko side.

But anyhow, I've had a few a long time ago. They just got filed away and looked at later from a more developed perspective.

Had one that was really interesting almost 30 years ago. I was sitting on my couch reading a manual about the OS/2 operating system. Very relaxed. Just reading. Across the coffee table was an armchair with a table next to it immediately on its left, and the table lamp on. There was a background light in front of me while I looked down reading this book. The chair was quite empty, as was the table except for the lamp.

After a while I looked up from the book and forward the way we do when we read something and kind of digest it. Just kind of glancing up without focusing. Except something wasn't right. Part of the lamp's light was blocked. A total blackness was in front on the side toward the chair partially blocking it.

Huh?

I looked to the chair, and then a tall black form stood up, threw a cape or something over its left shoulder, then turned and disappeared. Very theatrical, like some old stage actor from the turn of the century. Just a dark opaque human figure that appears to have been sitting there watching me until I noticed it, then getting up and make a grand exit. It was very much real.

I hollered to the woman I was living with and told her about it. She said it was nothing unusual. She had seen many odd things there, including dancing lights on the floor. This was about two blocks away from a famous spiritualist camp that had been there for quite a while.

Was an interesting experience.

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Feb 23, 2013
 
People don't get themselves crucified for a lie. This is absurd. To think Paul and his buddies made this up to live a life of daily persecution, beaten whipped, stoned and then crucified is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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A few Atheist bring up biblical slavery all the time. Never say a word about ongoing slavery. The fact is they donít give a damn about slavery. If they did they would be an advocate against it, but their not.
Iím the one that has to remind people that slavery is ongoing issue even today in nearly every country in the world. Lackadaisical attitudes works for slavery and not against it.
What's wrong with you?

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Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text>The same fear you would have if you did something wrong and your father found out about it, that kind of fear, the fear of a loving father who has to correct his child. Do you disapprove of a loving father doing his job?
Well, my father never through me in a lake of fire, so I'm going to have to say you're being a little disingenuous with your analogy...
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Dave Nelson wrote:
Befoef in the paranormal. Something that has always existed and will never go away.
Probably most us on this forum alone have had one or more experiences in life that were on the odd side. Of course, we are trained to shut them out, dismiss them, or seeks physical reasons for them. The SOP for them when you can't find a physical reason for them is to then just dismiss it. Then you have those of that get pulled down that trail in pursuit of what happened. This is how the belief in UFOs, ghosts, and trumpet playing atheists tapping into a vast resource of energy come about.
But they do happen. The physics stuff I have been presenting can explain the link that this very myopic following a single trail modern physics method can't. This ethereal link that has to exist by their own physics, yet they ignore it because they can't touch it. It isn't the physicist though that pronounce the it doesn't exist unless we write a paper on it, it is idiots like so many Topix atheists. A real scientist keeps an open mind, but forces themselves to follow a logic in investigating. Topix atheist going flying off into space with condensed versions of what science provides. They are on the wacko side.
But anyhow, I've had a few a long time ago. They just got filed away and looked at later from a more developed perspective.
Had one that was really interesting almost 30 years ago. I was sitting on my couch reading a manual about the OS/2 operating system. Very relaxed. Just reading. Across the coffee table was an armchair with a table next to it immediately on its left, and the table lamp on. There was a background light in front of me while I looked down reading this book. The chair was quite empty, as was the table except for the lamp.
After a while I looked up from the book and forward the way we do when we read something and kind of digest it. Just kind of glancing up without focusing. Except something wasn't right. Part of the lamp's light was blocked. A total blackness was in front on the side toward the chair partially blocking it.
Huh?
I looked to the chair, and then a tall black form stood up, threw a cape or something over its left shoulder, then turned and disappeared. Very theatrical, like some old stage actor from the turn of the century. Just a dark opaque human figure that appears to have been sitting there watching me until I noticed it, then getting up and make a grand exit. It was very much real.
I hollered to the woman I was living with and told her about it. She said it was nothing unusual. She had seen many odd things there, including dancing lights on the floor. This was about two blocks away from a famous spiritualist camp that had been there for quite a while.
Was an interesting experience.
Obviously, the Phantom of the Opera had the wrong address.

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Feb 23, 2013
 
Catcher1 wrote:
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What's wrong with you?
If you like a good movie with a historical flair. Rent ďArgo,Ē with Ben Affleck,(2012). You will know what it means when I say,ďArgoÖÖÖÖÖĒ

Itís a little painful to watch the first 10 or 15 minutes. But the beginning is necessary to set the plot. Itís a 4 star moving and thereís not too many of those these days.

Enjoy.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
Befoef in the paranormal. Something that has always existed and will never go away.

Was an interesting experience.
Superstitious nonsense Dave , you can claim anything.
Queen Mary is my pet ghost, she is a succubus.
Now is that paranormal enough for you?

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Just Think wrote:
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Well, my father never through me in a lake of fire, so I'm going to have to say you're being a little disingenuous with your analogy...
My father never threw me into a lake of fire but Iíll be damned if I didnít end up in one a few times. I hate fire.

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Just Think wrote:
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Well, my father never through me in a lake of fire, so I'm going to have to say you're being a little disingenuous with your analogy...
So was your comment.

Even so, there is a difference between your father and a deity one. Your daddy couldn't pull you back out and make you as good as new. Good thing he knew his limits, eh?

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