Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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#155791 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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We can't invent the possibility of having a soul.
Either we do or we don't.
This is where you are wrong. It is within possibility, and may even become so. It is possible to save your thoughts, but to make your thoughts interactive after death. Of specifically to make them interactive after your death based on your decisions in life is within the possibility of modern science. It just hasn't been done yet.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/123485-mit...

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#155792 Feb 22, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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If there is no evidence of it, then my position that we are gone upon death is the most reasonable stance, right?
Wrong. There are many things in this life and in this universe that we mere humans are unaware of. Just because there is no evidence of something doesn't mean that something doesn't exist.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
No. I cannot demonstrate that I do not get a Karma Point for every time I said the word "Awesome" either. I also cannot demonstrate that we're not in The Matrix.
Ideas that are unfalsifiable generally aren't very useful.
Since you can't demonstrate that souls neither exist or do not exist, why do you go by the assumption that they do not exist?

Is it because of evidence, or lack thereof?

Do you understand, or do you believe that science doesn't have the answer for everything right now?

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#155793 Feb 22, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Well, there is no doubt that decomposition happens after death. It is one of the signs of death, after all.
That's it huh? You just turn off like a broken TV and get discarded? That is your assumption.

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#155794 Feb 22, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Why?
An engineer knowledgeable about computers could explain it to them and make references to existing technologies with similar principals like phonographs (recording of information) and radio (wireless transmission of information).
Ha ha ha!

Do tell, what scientist 100 years ago new about wireless printing technology?

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#155795 Feb 22, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Why?
An engineer knowledgeable about computers could explain it to them and make references to existing technologies with similar principals like phonographs (recording of information) and radio (wireless transmission of information).
Then why can't you understand a soul, brain, or what have you can be translocated or transmuted to a different realm or medium?

Modern computer programs, the executables, can be copied across the universe. Pop them in a new machine, of even a different architecture if ported to it, and you can get the same thing, including all the saved data in it, and any new that may occur.

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#155796 Feb 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> WTF are you trying to say here? This is a meaningless statement.
Oh, here's a meaningless statement:

Atheists are smart.

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#155797 Feb 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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This is where you are wrong. It is within possibility, and may even become so. It is possible to save your thoughts, but to make your thoughts interactive after death. Of specifically to make them interactive after your death based on your decisions in life is within the possibility of modern science. It just hasn't been done yet.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/123485-mit...
Souls are much more they our combined thoughts, they are our non-corporeal entity.

You think you can download it?

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#155798 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Wrong.
How am I wrong? What position is MORE reasonable than mine?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Just because there is no evidence of something doesn't mean that something doesn't exist.
So? It is irrational to say that it DOES with no evidence.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Since you can't demonstrate that souls neither exist or do not exist, why do you go by the assumption that they do not exist?
Why do you go by the "assumption" that cars aren't powered by fairies? Why do you go by the "assumption" that your house isn't alive and mad at you for not vacuuming often enough?

Because you reject extraordinary claims that aren't supported, right?

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#155799 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ha ha ha!
Do tell, what scientist 100 years ago new about wireless printing technology?
You missed the point.

They would recognize it as plausible even if it didn't exist at the time.

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#155800 Feb 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Then why can't you understand a soul, brain, or what have you can be translocated or transmuted to a different realm or medium?
I can understand the concept. There is no evidence that any such thing occurs.

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#155801 Feb 22, 2013
Hmmmm...

The difference between info, or most anything passed parallel and serial. Serial takes time, and has markers, such as dead space between expressions.

You can have a truck full of cows, but you have to unload them one at a time.

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#155802 Feb 22, 2013
The_Box wrote:
How am I wrong? What position is MORE reasonable than mine?


I guess none. You're the genius atheist....
So? It is irrational to say that it DOES with no evidence.
It's just as irrational as saying it DOESN'T exist with no evidence.

You keep missing that.
Why do you go by the "assumption" that cars aren't powered by fairies?
Because I know all about car engines, fairies aren't in them.(Except for the Prius)
Why do you go by the "assumption" that your house isn't alive and mad at you for not vacuuming often enough?
Because I know that wood, stucco, concrete, drywall, paint and glass are inanimate objects and cannot get angry.
Because you reject extraordinary claims that aren't supported, right?
No.

There's a difference between extraordinary claims and ridiculous extraordinary claims....

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#155803 Feb 22, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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You missed the point.
They would recognize it as plausible even if it didn't exist at the time.
It's doubtful that they could even comprehend it...

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#155804 Feb 22, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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I can understand the concept. There is no evidence that any such thing occurs.
But there is also no evidence that it doesn't occur!

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#155805 Feb 22, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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I can understand the concept. There is no evidence that any such thing occurs.
If you wanted to be honest about it, all you could say is that you don't believe souls exist.

Watch, I'll go first:

I believe souls exist.

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#155806 Feb 22, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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I can understand the concept. There is no evidence that any such thing occurs.
None that that specific phenomenon regarding human souls does, but only because science hasn't figured how to measure it yet.

The technology, therefore the possibility exists. Therefore evidence. As good as abiogenesis, anyhow. Science has already proven we are assembled of tiny little bits of info.

The possibility is highly possible. It would take a knee jerk believer in the impossibility of it happening to deny the possibility.

The process, or principle DOES exist. The product does exist. The destination is unknown because we haven't sen the limits of the universe yet.

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#155807 Feb 22, 2013
There was a poster on the PTAG named eternalrock that portrayed this existence as a computer game, simulation, or whatever. I understood his frames of reference, but it appeared he was a gamer gone mad. He may have the right yo yo, just the wrong string.

All of us express part of the greater, because we are facets of it. Just kind of incomplete due to that parallel serial and bus width thingy.

Some of these Topix posters indicate this greater needs to take a dump.

“There is no god!”

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#155808 Feb 22, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Just a bit of advice. Your avatar looks like a Catholic Priest staring into the boys dressing room. If I were you, I’d change it. Unless of course you like looking like a pervert.
I’m not trying to be mean but helpful.
so you have fantasies about being a catholic priest looking into the boys dressing room you should get some help

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#155809 Feb 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
There was a poster on the PTAG named eternalrock that portrayed this existence as a computer game, simulation, or whatever. I understood his frames of reference, but it appeared he was a gamer gone mad. He may have the right yo yo, just the wrong string.
All of us express part of the greater, because we are facets of it. Just kind of incomplete due to that parallel serial and bus width thingy.
Some of these Topix posters indicate this greater needs to take a dump.
Hey, thanks for reminding me, I gotsta poop!
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#155810 Feb 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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If you wanted to be honest about it, all you could say is that you don't believe souls exist.
Watch, I'll go first:
I believe souls exist.
Agreed

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