Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[Thinking]

As an aside, does any religion *not* have a creation myth?

Does any religion say, "We're not sure how it all started, so let's do some scientific research."?

The_Box wrote:

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Your analogy is asinine.
Genesis was written by people who had no knowledge of human origins, and had to make up magical explanations for them. God breathing life into dust to make a man and then make a women out of his rib is magic. It's not even an attempt to be a scientific explanation.

[Imhotep]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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This can go real deep, but I will try to explain the jist of it.
God's sanctuary is a carnal typification of the spiritual. Everything had to be purified to go into the santuary.
The "lame at the gate" represents all "flesh", all of us, because we all have blemishes.
The short of it is that "ALL will be sanctified". Christ died for ALL those with blemish (all of us).

How long have you been in the 'Bible turd polishing' business?

You are desperate.

Your religion is absurd, allergic to reality, and losing its grip. As knowledge increases your fantasy world will collapse.

Yes, thou shalt deny the facts but thou art lying to thyself. Google it.

“A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.”~Saul Bellow

[Eagle12]

The_Box wrote:

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It's called the supernatural creation of a human being. Just like how Eve was made out of a rib.
Pulmonary resuscitation is a process done to a living person to KEEP them living since one of their functions has ceased working.
Genesis 2 describes a process done to non-living dust/dirt/clay to turn it into a living person.
It doesn't match and you trying to force it to just makes you look silly and desperate.

Thank you kindly, I shall file your opinion away for safe keeping into “It doesn’t matter file.”

Or should I put in the,“Who gives a sh** file?”

Don’t worry, I find a good place for it.

[Thinking]

That's where I put gideon's bibles.

Eagle12 wrote:

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Thank you kindly, I shall file your opinion away for safe keeping into “It doesn’t matter file.”
Or should I put in the,“Who gives a sh** file?”
Don’t worry, I find a good place for it.

[Dave Nelson]

The_Box wrote:

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Your analogy is asinine.
Genesis was written by people who had no knowledge of human origins, and had to make up magical explanations for them. God breathing life into dust to make a man and then make a women out of his rib is magic. It's not even an attempt to be a scientific explanation.

You make some big assumptions.

If man had watched his ancestors turn into dust consistently for a while he may scientifically deduce they, and themselves, were also made of the same stuff. Quite understandable, eh? Since they probably also noticed that they could walk around, eat, make babies and such, and other dust just kinda got trampled and blown around that they then had something special in them. Not an unreasonable conclusion. Since they couldn't see it, per se, but they did see the dust animated by it, two and two started to add up. Wind? Breath?(their own could stir dust) Scientific deduction based upon hard physical observation.

Give them a break, they didn't have the experts of today to tell them that we originated as a magic poof that then settled down into an order, except for those damned pixie particles that drift in and out messing up numbers, and this order let that dust collect, and collect, and collect, until "Voila!" we are here.

Of course we had to wade through about 100 billion ancestors to get to these modern, new improved ones that discovered those pixie particles.

Forgive your mommas and daddies. They didn't know what they were doing. But I am sure they meant well.

[Thinking]

In sculpture, an armature is a framework around which the sculpture is built.

Eagle12 wrote:

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Go to a comedy club on armature night and spread the joy.

[bohart]

Aura Mytha wrote:

<quoted text> Let's just say it was a very bad attempt, at a scientific explanation.

Yeah , nothing like sciences attempt to explain how life started, the first attempts were made by the ancient Greek philosophers who speculated that there must have been a spontaneous generation of life. This concept was embraced on into the 21st century, when it was renamed abiogenesis .

Abiogenesis's origins were invented by ancient Greek bronze age goat herders , ha,ha,ha.

[Thinking]

Well, that's believers for you.

Dave Nelson wrote:

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...they didn't have the experts of today...

[Mylan]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

So what.

Yeah, who cares about the "house" of your
god". I agree numb nuts.

[blacklagoon]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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He does quite a few acoustic numbers. Plays banjo, too. Probably real good on a mandolin.
Listen to him. You might learn something.
Go blow some of your hot air. They could use it in Kansas tomorrow.

Without his electronic assistance his music is featureless. He obviously has no knowledge of complex harmonies, and unable to play any really fully developed melodies. All thats left is endless diatonic runs and arpeggiated chords from the same diatonic framework. Now put a real guitarists in an acoustic setting and he'll blow your mind. Someone like Joe Pass, or Grey Sargent, Pat Metheny, or any other Jazz or classical guitarist. Pukebucket without his mask, stupid bucket, or his electronics, which is his life's blood, he becomes a 5 years old compared to real players.

Yes I can learn from pukebucket, I can learn how infantile your mind is to link this zero to the word Genius. I can learn how simple you mind is, and how anything of complexity and beauty is a complete mystery to you. I can learn that you possess absolutely no passion in your life, and the arts to you means number paintings, and music so childish anyone with any intelligence would be embarrassed to admit to thinking there is ANY substance to it.

[Dave Nelson]

Thinking wrote:

Well, that's believers for you.
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And Topix atheists that edit posts, thinking it makes them look smarter.

Post something intelligent if you want to look that way.

Borrow something if you have to.

[Dave Nelson]

blacklagoon wrote:

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Without his electronic assistance his music is featureless. He obviously has no knowledge of complex harmonies, and unable to play any really fully developed melodies. All thats left is endless diatonic runs and arpeggiated chords from the same diatonic framework. Now put a real guitarists in an acoustic setting and he'll blow your mind. Someone like Joe Pass, or Grey Sargent, Pat Metheny, or any other Jazz or classical guitarist. Pukebucket without his mask, stupid bucket, or his electronics, which is his life's blood, he becomes a 5 years old compared to real players.
Yes I can learn from pukebucket, I can learn how infantile your mind is to link this zero to the word Genius. I can learn how simple you mind is, and how anything of complexity and beauty is a complete mystery to you. I can learn that you possess absolutely no passion in your life, and the arts to you means number paintings, and music so childish anyone with any intelligence would be embarrassed to admit to thinking there is ANY substance to it.

:-)

Show us some of your stuff, Ace.

Buckethead does opera, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Classical, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

That bucket is much more attractive than some jazz horn player with a "I'm one cool and hip cat, Daddyo, because I play music that if you don't like it, it would be because you are uncool and don't understand it" look on his face. Then he gets up there and makes noise. Cool noise, to be sure. Just ask him.

Dave Brubeck was good.

[Dave Nelson]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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:-)
Show us some of your stuff, Ace.
Buckethead does opera, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Classical, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
That bucket is much more attractive than some jazz horn player with a "I'm one cool and hip cat, Daddyo, because I play music that if you don't like it, it would be because you are uncool and don't understand it" look on his face. Then he gets up there and makes noise. Cool noise, to be sure. Just ask him.
Dave Brubeck was good.

Oops. Reversed the links.

[Dave Nelson]

Poor blacklagoon.

He is still under the illusion that we are supposed bow to his declarations of what is art, and what ain't. He could be just one of those damned critics. They go to school and are taught it should be this way, and then go out and tell everyone else what they are supposed to like.

Art is what registers with people, not with the scholars and pros. It's a communication thingy.

[scaritual]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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:-)
Show us some of your stuff, Ace.
Buckethead does opera, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Classical, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
That bucket is much more attractive than some jazz horn player with a "I'm one cool and hip cat, Daddyo, because I play music that if you don't like it, it would be because you are uncool and don't understand it" look on his face. Then he gets up there and makes noise. Cool noise, to be sure. Just ask him.
Dave Brubeck was good.

Try this, Dave. maybe it'll put a little skip in that step.
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
Enjoy.

[blacklagoon]

Dave Nelson wrote:

BTW, loony, Buckethead does concerts, issues albums, at least 40 so far, and is on youtube,
All we have of you is hot air played on a keyboard.
Serenade us. Maybe we will drop a dollar in the jar.
:-)

Easily impressed wit numbers eh.....Pavarotti, the worlds greatest voice has sold 94 recordings, performed all over the world, including the White House, has been in Movies, and was the most sought after Tenor for all of the worlds greatest opera's. He performed for Kings and Queens, and a list of his concert tours is staggering. He left behind a fortune, 475.5 million. In the U.S. alone he had over 15 millions in assets. Grow the f--k up will ya. The sophisticated world is passing you by. You know nothing of grace and culture. Magnets and strings are your only joy. I can only feel intense pity for you, you poor slob.

[Dave Nelson]

scaritual wrote:

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Try this, Dave. maybe it'll put a little skip in that step.
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
Enjoy.

Put everything down for the next 10 minutes and just lay back and listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Aura Mytha]

bohart wrote:

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Yeah , nothing like sciences attempt to explain how life started, the first attempts were made by the ancient Greek philosophers who speculated that there must have been a spontaneous generation of life. This concept was embraced on into the 21st century, when it was renamed abiogenesis .
Abiogenesis's origins were invented by ancient Greek bronze age goat herders , ha,ha,ha.

Philosophers are more like theists than scientists.
You do nothing to remove the stupid from yourself, except pile it on thick and heavy.

[Dave Nelson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch...

That is a bit synthesized, but similar to the previous in soulfulness. Set back for 10 minutes and listen.

[blacklagoon]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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Oh, I forgot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Full album
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colma_%28album%2...
A little wiki critique.

Wonderful, more endless gimmicks and overdubbing. I even tried to listen to this with an open mind. It is still harmonically void, and the absent's of any really fully developed melodies make listening a real chore. Its like looking at a pinging of a tree, nothing else, no background no detail just a tree. Strip away the electronic gimmickry and you have no substance whatsoever. Remove the mask and bucket and you have one of a million wanna be musicians. I've heard beginning kids on horns and keyboards play circles around this dope.