Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Thinking

Hounslow, UK

#155103 Feb 19, 2013
into a church.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Where is the best place to shoot a zombie?
Thinking

Hounslow, UK

#155104 Feb 19, 2013
"flavour", even.

Since: Jul 12

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#155105 Feb 19, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Correct. But there is a "u" in the word "flsvour".
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"How do you like that ice cream?"

"mmm, it's flsvourful!"

Lol

Since: Jul 12

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#155106 Feb 19, 2013
Thinking wrote:
"flavour", even.
No, no, no...

It's written "flavor".

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#155107 Feb 19, 2013
Atheist put all hope in Science.

Christians put hope in God and Science.

When Atheist die all their hope in science dies.

When Christians die their hope in science dies but hope in God turns to great joy.

Romans 15:13 May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#155110 Feb 19, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Thinking creates a virtual reality of its own. The very act requires a projection of thought patterns and the logic within them. Our thinking is influenced and modified by reactions to those projections, an effect of a larger intertwined network.
We are born with a base pattern that gets modified. The base patterns are different, even before the process starts. This could be stored in the EM of genes, or it might not. It could be the projections of some minds created those genes.
There is an awful lot of relativity and quantum aspects of life, but relativity is the key. This is our base from which we explore. There is no way we can see the total from here, even as a collective of individual facets looking out and trying to discern what it all is. As Topix illustrates, there is too much noise to see through.
Or something like that.
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/2...

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#155111 Feb 19, 2013
bohart wrote:
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And the idiot hits keep on rolling! The enviroment would have to had been able to support life, wylie coyote, like today. And it is you SUPER GENIUSES who are stuck in the 1700's thinking spontaneous generation is a plausible idea.
You mean like the life that survives around hydrothermal vents? The life that we did not think could exist until 1977? Is that the life you are talking about? The life that survives in pressures and on chemicals that would kill any other living creature on Earth?

You sound as if you know a lot about such life! Do tell.

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#155112 Feb 19, 2013
scaritual wrote:
I am not surprised at your being confused by words conveying ideas and perceptions instead of grunts.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#155113 Feb 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, those "people" were scientists that "knew" that...
lol
Yep and that is why we say, science is self-correcting.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#155114 Feb 19, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is the best place to shoot a zombie?
Anywhere but there,(hand pointing).

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#155115 Feb 19, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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You mean like the life that survives around hydrothermal vents? The life that we did not think could exist until 1977? Is that the life you are talking about? The life that survives in pressures and on chemicals that would kill any other living creature on Earth?
You sound as if you know a lot about such life! Do tell.
Have you seen the life around "Old Faithfull."

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#155116 Feb 19, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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You mean like the life that survives around hydrothermal vents? The life that we did not think could exist until 1977? Is that the life you are talking about? The life that survives in pressures and on chemicals that would kill any other living creature on Earth?
You sound as if you know a lot about such life! Do tell.
Have you seen the life around "Old Faithfull?"

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#155117 Feb 19, 2013
This would make a good freeway sign.

"Be an Atheist and join hopelessness."

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#155118 Feb 19, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Ahh yes! the real theory of abiogenesis, why does it not work? and as usual theres no evidence that it ever did! faith is its engine.
You are confused. Do you want to learn and get less confused or do you want to wallow in, "goddidit, so there is no reason to look further."?

No one is saying that you have to believe in it; that would be the religious way. You should study the idea. Do a little digging on your own.

Word of caution: Stay way from religious sites made by people who have doctorates in divinity or philosophy, or slightly better, only a high school education!

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#155119 Feb 19, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Yep and that is why we say, science is self-correcting.
Science corrected itself all through history, even under the Church. It is a process, not a religion. But you are trying to turn it into a religion.

Well, modern science did get a good kickstart under the Church.

The Church filled the void left by the collapse of the Roman Empire. The void included libraries and the exchange of information. The Church brought what survived back. They provided the education and facilities.

You listen to too many soundbites.

One more time.

It was Faraday and Maxwell, two devout theists, that are the absolute underpinnings of modern science. They dealt with this invisible force and turned it into the tool used since by modern physics and science.

Them directly.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#155120 Feb 19, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Have you seen the life around "Old Faithfull?"
Have you ever touched the moon?

Why do you jump in and ask stupid questions, which have nothing to do with the conversation?

No one looked for life in the hot springs where the temp was thought to be too high for life to survive. Then one day, a scientist decided to look and low and behold, there was life!

Science is asking questions and finding the answers. Science does not care one way or the other about anything supernatural, unless they can found proof of it, then it becomes part of the natural world.

If all you christians could agree on any point, maybe someone would take you seriously, but as it stands, no two christians can agree.

38,000+ sects of christianity and you want me to believe that you have a handle on the right one? You, who tosses the scientific method out the window every chance you get? You who does not act like jesus told you to? You who never read the entire bible?

What are your credentials? I'll tell you. You have none.

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#155121 Feb 19, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Yep and that is why we say, science is self-correcting.
Yes, and that is why we say science is STILL correcting itself.

Thank you very much.

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#155122 Feb 19, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
This would make a good freeway sign.
"Be an Atheist and join hopelessness."
Or the atheist recruitment motto:

"Be an atheist.
Inflame your ego."
CunningLinguist

Kissimmee, FL

#155123 Feb 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You are mistaken, there are no excuses to be made. I'm simply trying to educate you a tad bit (I know, it's difficult for an atheist to admit to learning something...)
Your have utterly failed to comprehend your Bible.

The Bible is supposedly the guide to morality, inspired by a deity. Why is any of that awful stuff included in such a supposedly wonderful document? Why does anyone have to make excuses for the filth in it? The "context" argument does not hold.

One of the most conspicuous blind spots Christians display is regarding Jesus' "Sermon on the Mount." Snippets of it are cited repeatedly and even nonbelievers know some of them. That sermon begins in Matthew 5:3. Some of its better known "beatitudes" include: Verses 3 through 5 - "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth." Also Verses 7 through 9 - "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God."

What makes this so ironic is that a mere eight verses later, in the same "Sermon on the Mount" Jesus says this: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:17-19) And again, "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?" (John 5:46-47)

There you have it. Jesus is unambiguously talking about Old Testament Law. Not only that, but Jesus, the supposedly "gentle carpenter" from Galilee, as part of the Christian Triune God, participated in every single Old Testament atrocity.

And the OT Law he defended so strongly includes, among so many hundreds of other cruel and/or bizarre directives, the Law that nonŽvirginal brides must be murdered. And not just murdered, but "stoned," one of the most barbaric, cruel practices imaginable: "But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die." (Deuteronomy 22:20,21)

Stonings take place to this day, in many Muslim countries, based on biblical directives.(Muslims, like Christians and Jews, consider themselves the "children of Abraham.") Remember, according to Jesus, not "one jot or one tittle" of the OT Law shall pass until the end of time. So, non-virginal brides should be stoned to death, today, tomorrow and forever.

Amnesty International has a poster that shows, to scale, the size of the stones to be used in a "proper" stoning. Imagine dying that way.. Then imagine a God who would order that people should die that way.

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