Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Feb 16, 2013
 
bohart wrote:
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I guess he thought since you are an Atheist,you wouldn't believe him anyway.
You guess!?!? Well hey, how about you ask your god and question? If you get the right answer from your god, then I will believe!

I have a calendar in my den, what is the theme?

What? Your god will no play? Why not? It would bring glory to him. Isn't that the main criteria for him?

No worries, I understand.

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Feb 16, 2013
 
Odd had their god has the power to do anything, yet does nothing.

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Feb 16, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
A small group of volunteers in Russia who were trying to peacefully teach reason to potential Czar supporters, formed in 1929 declined to compete insignificance in 1940 and closed shop in 1947.
Churches never closed and children were made to get a proper education. Such wickedness!
But then again you being a Muslim woman have had your genitals mutilated and that has messed you up.
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Please supply all of your sources.
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Feb 16, 2013
 
I'm so cornfused. there are so many gods which one is it?

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Feb 16, 2013
 
TheBlackSheep wrote:
Odd had their god has the power to do anything, yet does nothing.
Amusing.

Jesus could show up big and bright in the sky tomorrow, no mistake in who it would be, Then you would run and find a I love Jesus button, pin it on, then run to the head of the line waiting for your reward, because now you have proof.

:-)

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Feb 16, 2013
 
seriously wrote:
I'm so cornfused. there are so many gods which one is it?
They're all the same.

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Many people die in war, the Russian deaths you mention we're due to political take over not atheism. The rich back then would hire huge amounts of poor people to fight for them and help protect their ill gotten wealth. The Czars for centuries had told the people that they were hand chosen by god to lead and it was all citizens duty to fight for them as they would god. It was a dastardly cowardly thing to do.
Several of the soviet generals and leaders were believers and even devout Christians. Communism and atheism are two different things.
Again nothing to do with atheism and you know it.
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I notice you don’t bother to leave references. There of course is a reason for that. You don’t have any.

“The Soviet Union had a long history of state atheism, in which social success largely required individuals to profess atheism and stay away from houses of worship”

State atheism is the official promotion of atheism by a government, sometimes combined with active suppression of religious freedom and practice. In contrast, a secular state purports to be officially neutral in matters of religion, supporting neither religion nor irreligion. State atheism may refer to a government's anti-clericalism, which opposes religious institutional power and influence in all aspects of public and political life, including the involvement of religion in the everyday life of the citizen.

State promotion of atheism as a public norm was first practiced during a brief period in Revolutionary France. Since then, such a policy was repeated only in Revolutionary Mexico and some communist states. The Soviet Union had a long history of state atheism, in which social success largely required individuals to profess atheism and stay away from houses of worship; this attitude was especially militant during the middle Stalinist era from 1929–1939. The Soviet Union attempted to suppress public religious expression over wide areas of its influence, including places such as central Asia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

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Feb 16, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Lenin was and is adored by those people as a hero, yes even the religious Russians. The head of the Russian Orthodox Church still maintains prays for Lenin and Stalin was and is a saint in their church. Your own copy and paste even states the churches were left open for service as they always had been.
In those days poor parents would send their kids away to the church to get an education which meant reading the bible and getting molested by the clergy. Lenin mandated all children receive a proper education in history, math, science and language.
That evil man! How dare he see to it for the first time children there regardless of income learn to read and get a proper education, becoming head and shoulders more knowledgable than children in many other countries?! How dare he!
Lmfao! Crazy ole Daffy! Always good for a laugh.
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Please supply sources.

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<quoted text> obviously you are correct in general. I do not think that all atheists are pacifists or that all persons of faith are pro-violence, however. It is too bad that it is mostly the extremists of the far right on politics and religion represent themselves as spokesman for so called conservatism, when they are very far from being respectable conservatives. It is a usurpation both on internet and in the real world - American political and religious arguments are too vicious because the far rightwing extremists represent themselves as speaking for the conservatives. Look at Sebator Cruz, and you see and hear the memory of Senator Joe Carthy. Probably a hero of some of the rightwing extremists on topix.... but all conservatives and all Christians are not evil just because the noisy rightwing extremists have stolen the limelight and the reputatable center right is drowned out with their yelling.
http://en.wi kipedi a.org/wiki/Mass_ki llings_under_Commu nist_regimes
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Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>I think he stepped on his Johnson.
What again? LOL

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"I semi-retired except for collecting and inspecting my rental properties. I live comfortably off my stock dividends, porn sites I own, early retirement from work and rental properties here in the states and in the Philippines. "

OMG. It's getting better all the time!!!

You're retired except for Porn and your wife is still in school!

Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Please stop!!!!

Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!

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I am a 32 year old multi-racial man with a Johnson bigger than anyone in your family"

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Feb 16, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
Jesus could show up big and bright in the sky tomorrow, no mistake in who it would be, Then you would run and find a I love Jesus button, pin it on, then run to the head of the line waiting for your reward, because now you have proof.
And what's wrong with that? Proof makes all the difference. Blind faith is for fools...

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<quoted text>Then pretend you're in a court of law and present your evidence. If you have none, then we rest our case religitard.
In this,“lets pretend,” court of law.

Where is your evidence to support the none existence of God?

Obviously you don’t have any or you would have presented such evidence.

If you have none, and we know you don’t, we rest our case.

This is the typical atheist tactic to get the opposition to present evidence while failing to present your own.

The burden of proof is on the accuser my friend and you don’t have any.

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What again? LOL
Posted by Langoliers:
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"I semi-retired except for collecting and inspecting my rental properties. I live comfortably off my stock dividends, porn sites I own, early retirement from work and rental properties here in the states and in the Philippines. "
OMG. It's getting better all the time!!!
You're retired except for Porn and your wife is still in school!
Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Please stop!!!!
Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!
Liberty wrote:
I am a 32 year old multi-racial man with a Johnson bigger than anyone in your family"
Givemeliberty has serious credibility issues. He/She will say anything and claim it as facts without any proof.

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TheBlackSheep wrote:
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You guess!?!? Well hey, how about you ask your god and question? If you get the right answer from your god, then I will believe!
I have a calendar in my den, what is the theme?
What? Your god will no play? Why not? It would bring glory to him. Isn't that the main criteria for him?
No worries, I understand.
I'm going to tell you.

The calender on your wall is all about the Months and days of the year. Theme is nature but you are going to deny it.

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Givemeliberty has serious credibility issues. He/She will say anything and claim it as facts without any proof.
Probably has more issues than just that.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Amusing.
Jesus could show up big and bright in the sky tomorrow, no mistake in who it would be, Then you would run and find a I love Jesus button, pin it on, then run to the head of the line waiting for your reward, because now you have proof.
:-)
cute
You're right! To a point, at least. If I had proof, then I would not deny it.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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I'm going to tell you.
The calender on your wall is all about the Months and days of the year. Theme is nature but you are going to deny it.
You're right! How did you know?

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Feb 16, 2013
 
So no comments about that money being spent on particle physics. The scientific references to not being able to see all this invisible stuff they just know is there. This molasses electrons pass through, etc. They want to coax it out by exploding it out.

Particles that float in and out within a second.

Interesting stuff, this hard nosed math based physics.

No invisible skydaddies, no interaction, however brief it may be, with maybe its dimension and that we may have emerged from.

Curious. I thought Topx atheist were real science buffs.

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TheBlackSheep wrote:
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You're right! To a point, at least. If I had proof, then I would not deny it.
:-)

Do you need proof or faith before putting your very last quarter into a slot machine?

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Feb 16, 2013
 
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Where is your evidence to support the none existence of God?
You piss all over the pope and if lightning doesn't strike, well... there ya go.

Evidence of absence is evidence of any kind that suggests something is missing or that it does not exist. A simple example of evidence of absence: A baker never fails to put finished pies on her windowsill, so if there is no pie on the windowsill, then no finished pies exist. This can be formulated as modus tollens in propositional logic: P implies Q, but Q is false, therefore P is false.

You can't prove a negative. But then you already knew that. You just use your childish "prove god doesn't exist" excuse because then you think you don't have to prove that god exist. Wrong butthead!!!

You CAN prove that things exist; but you can't PROVE that they don't, nor should anyone have to. A reasonable person would reject a belief without evidence. Only a religious person would be retarded enough to believe in things like unicorns or anything else that has never been proven.

1. If God exists, then he is perfect.
2. If God exists, then he is the creator of the universe.
3. A perfect being can have no needs or wants.
4. If any being created the universe, then he must have had some need or want.
5. Therefore, it is impossible for a perfect being to be the creator of the universe (from 3 and 4).
6. Hence, it is impossible for God to exist (from 1, 2, and 5).

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