Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154244 Feb 14, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Of course nobody can prove life didn't originate by all natural and observable devices.
Here it comes....
Why? Because that's where all the evidence is leading us.
There it is! Hypocrite.
We no longer need to place it on some invisible sky wizard.
Christians have never had a sky wizard....
We have progressed past the ancients in that regards.
Yes, WE have.
Well some of us have anyways.
Yes, I meant WE, not you.
bohart

Newport, TN

#154245 Feb 14, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
No you didn't. You asserted it without substantiating your assertion.
You still haven't.
Just because you want to make this false correlation, doesn't make it true.
You also tried to insert ID as if it were science, but you have not met the standard of science to even claim it as science any more than voodoo or astrology is.
And I know we have discussed what a theory is before, so you can't claim ignorance unless it is more than just a claim.
Hey Hedonist , saw where you were talking about the standard of science being met, and if you don't its the same as voodoo. Lets talk abiogenesis, it doesn't have a testable hypothesis and it isn't repeatable, therefore according to science its as provable as voodoo...But of course you could still believe in it.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154246 Feb 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>The real issue is abiogenesis. Prove it can be done before preaching it was done. And also prove the universe can appear out of nothing to begin that process.

Evolution is a process of model change. Adaptation to a changing environment. There is absolutely zero proof that an original model was not created by intelligent design that has since been modified, or that the creation of this universe and our emergence was not part of a process initiated by an intelligent design. By the very fact we have emerged from a stabilized system is evidence that such may have occurred.

That American Association for the Advancement of Science statement on evolution is a left handed way of advancing order out of chaos as it infers any opposition to it, such as the theory of intelligent design is strictly religion based, and thus "unscientific" and "objective". Objective system analysis will not support that contention of order out of chaos theory, which is PURE CONJECTURE.

There is no honesty or objectiveness in statements like that.
So far, the "theory" of intelligent design is nothing more than a hypothesis.

And its only "evidence" is that we haven't figured out exactly how life started yet.

Evolution doesn't even address abiogenesis, but you've already been told this a thousand times, so I don't expect you'll ever get it.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154247 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>I asked a very simple question that you didn't answer.

What part of ToE is evidenced?

There's no evidence of abiogenesis, no evidence of spontaneous life, no evidence of fish transforming to mammals, no evidence of bacteria becoming birds.

We haven't even cataloged all the existing life on Earth, how is it thought that we know what life existed billions of years ago?

Know it before you preach it.
All life is evidence of abiogenesis. Only the process isn't known.

And 150 years worth of evidence has more than adequately proved evolution.

You are in a deep state of denial.
Imhotep

United States

#154248 Feb 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmm...
So quoting the words of another quack reveals your intellectual capabilities in presenting your beliefs?
Should I quote the Bible for you?

Quacks wrote it
Quacks believe it
Quacks sell it on TV

Faith is Rewarded to the Same Degree as Disbelief

Someday the realization that if you prayed to God for a given number of things, and then prayed to a rock for that same number of things, the chances are very good that the rock and God would answer roughly the same number of times.

After all is said and done, every God seems to answer in roughly the same proportion, unless of course... for the 100% rate of failure for such requests as healing an amputee or “moving a mountain.” However... Faith can move skyscrapers!
Allah Akbar!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154249 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Don't go patting yourself on the back for thinking you taught me something I already know.

[QUOTE] Too bad for you what you're describing is science, and NOT religion. Welcome to reality. "

Too bad for you that you don't understand that science & religion are partners.
They could be, but they're not.

As long as idiots like you and buck and Dave refuse to acknowledge the existing evidence of evolution, religion will remain the enemy of science.

Since: Oct 10

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#154250 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
True. But their non beliefs are only concerning God. I can sit here and write that I believe in leprechauns, I think Casper was really a friendly ghost, he wasn't evil-he was friendly. They wouldn't argue either of those at all.
That's what these atheists here don't realize that the only thing they're "skeptical" on is God.
When somebody advocates putting the Ten Commandments of Casper in a school or government building, I'll be all over them. So far, it hasn't been a big problem.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#154251 Feb 14, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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Golly Gee man,[blushing] you didn’t have to say it like that. Now I’m all embarrassed, ah shucks.
No problem! I will stand up for you and all your other characters! You guy(s) are tops!

Tell us again about Mao, Zinoviev, Kaminev, Fidel Castro, Lenin
Trotsky!

Hey! What about Hitler? You didn't give up on the, "Hitler was an Atheist", bit, did you!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154252 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>It's people like you that think we're divided. We ARE one nation - indivisable.

It doesn't matter what an AMerican's religion - or lack thereof - is, we're all Americans and all out for very similar goals.

Stop trying to divide us.

It's a shame you don't see that.
You're the blind one.

That post is proof of that.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154253 Feb 14, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
Which god?
God.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#154254 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
That kind of thinking helps atheists feel better about their beliefs.
....er, um... non-beliefs.
Oh, you guy(s) got us! Atheism is a religion. We have faith that there is no god. You guy(s) are so smart.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154255 Feb 14, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, that was the conversation.
You can see at each step what the comment was that the reply was addressed to and it goes step by step.
If you'd care to find any side comment that fits into this discussion, please cite your reference.
You are a bunch of discombubulated in your logic, or whatever it is. Plues, the burden of proof is really not on me. It is on those that claim life can come from raw chemicals. If it didn't, then the default is it was created by something, just like our experience with matter. We can shape and transform it. It doesn't do it all by itself. They will at least have to create conditions that existed at the time, and get at least a spark. No maybe could haves.

Your links were not to the message. They were to the page. On Firefox you will right click on the message number and select Copy Link Location for the particular message.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154256 Feb 14, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:

If an Atheist is responsible for mass murder it’s perfectly fine according to Atheist.[position X]
If it’s someone masquerading as a Christian then it’s horrendous. This is why they never mention these Atheist Leaders you mentioned. They’re ok with it.
wilderide wrote:
Straw man arguments like that just show the poverty of facts [position Y] on your side.
Person A (Eagle) has position X.
Person B (wilde) presents position Y.
Person B attacks position X.
Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed....

You are the one making the straw man fallacy, Wilde.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154257 Feb 14, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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So far, the "theory" of intelligent design is nothing more than a hypothesis.
And its only "evidence" is that we haven't figured out exactly how life started yet.
Evolution doesn't even address abiogenesis, but you've already been told this a thousand times, so I don't expect you'll ever get it.
You are on the retarded side, aren't you?

Find me a computer that wasn't made by man. Find me a Philips No. 2 screwdriver that wasn't made by man.

Maybe could haves don't cut it, poopsie.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154258 Feb 14, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
And its only "evidence" is that we haven't figured out exactly how life started yet.
HA HA HA!!!!

Can you explain how the human eye could've randomly evolved from a single celled organism.

(Just the eye is fine)
Evolution doesn't even address abiogenesis
Yes it does. I've showed you that a hundred times...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154259 Feb 14, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
All life is evidence of abiogenesis. Only the process isn't known.
Oh boy.... Didn't you JUST ridicule ID as being only a hypothesis? And now you defend abiogenesis as if its fact?!

Since: Oct 10

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#154260 Feb 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
There are two types of Topix atheist. Generically speaking.
There is only one type of Dave Nelson. Geriatrically speaking.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154261 Feb 14, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
All life is evidence of abiogenesis. Only the process isn't known.
HA!

Check it out:

All life is evidence of intelligent design. Only the process isn't known.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#154262 Feb 14, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
What would you like to know?
Why are magnets magnetic?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#154263 Feb 14, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
So far, the "theory" of intelligent design is nothing more than a hypothesis.
And its only "evidence" is that we haven't figured out exactly how life started yet.
Evolution doesn't even address abiogenesis, but you've already been told this a thousand times, so I don't expect you'll ever get it.
The proof Atheist need can be found “In the beginning.”

That’s the mystery that you need to resolve. It’s not in the theory of evolution but how everything started.

Self starting and self creation of life in the beginning is not possible. The reason I say that it has never been done by scientist, ever. It has not occurred on Mars.

This Earth is so unique we have founding nothing like it in the solar system that is remotely close to where we live. Scientist don’t have a clue if there is life elsewhere.

I tend to believe there is life elsewhere but like the Earth they had a designer or life architect. The bible does talk of a new heaven and a new Earth.

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