Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#154034 Feb 14, 2013
Its quite sad to see so many creationist godbots with no proof of god, still continuing their campaign of lies.
Siro

Australia

#154035 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because they're in constant denial. They're really not sure about the decision they made to hate God, Christians & relgion so they attack unnecessarily to pretend like they've got something to stand on.
Topix atheists are not normal atheists...
Topix atheists by and large are marxists and/or sexual deviates.
These creatures think in terms of slogans as used in commie countries like north korea, they use the same sort of mantras as used by terrorist groups like the red army faction of germany, red brigades etc with their 'peoples revolutionary liberation struggle' and so on.
The hatred of God and viewing him as an enemy to be destroyed is compulsory to their political thinking not rational thinking.
They then merely rename their political thought as 'rational thought' and peddle it from there.
Their mental poison comes from the Frankfurt School of marxism, a combination of narcissism, hedonism and ultimately nihilism and probably something else.

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#154036 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, but WHY? Do you fight against all PEOPLE who believe in things differently than you?
I've already told you.

Society is a mix of ideas. Some are good, some are bad. They all must be challenged. If someone says trickle-down economics is the best way to help the poor, people will stand up and say "That's crap." But in our country, religion gets a free pass. It shouldn't.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Christians don't control the gofernment. And we don't force our beliefs on anyone.
Really? So the gay friends can get married now? I can stop worrying about Christians trying to put Creationism and reconstructed history in schools? Christians have given up trying to strip funding for women's reproductive health?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154037 Feb 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>The event was distracting Hilary's health care initiative at the time, and the lady is known to have a temper and not shy about expressing her dissatisfaction with the performance of law enforcement agencies in particular, even on petty matters.
WRF does that have to do with my question?

You really are losing it, Dave.

And there's not much left for you to lose.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154038 Feb 14, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>Smirk cont. ;)

I see thou art still stumping and thumping for thy God!

My God Can Beat Up Your God (Richard Bamford)

Do you know his name? Sure you do. He talks to you every day. You could not live a normal life without him. You believe in him, whether you like it or not. Unless you abandon him completely, you cannot deny he exists.

My god is a more personal god than yours can ever be, for if you have enough sense to understand these words, my god lives within you. He lives within us all, to some degree. A heartbreaking few cannot understand him, but this is not their fault. The real tragedy is the multitudes who ignore much of his counsel, particularly when he questions your god too deeply.

My god has been around longer than your god. He was here before the many other gods that preceded your god.

Though you will likely scoff at the notion, my god was the father of your god, as he was to all gods. But that was long ago when he was young and not yet sure of himself.

Though many of your god's followers try to hold him down, my god grows stronger and more independent each day.

• When your god expelled us from paradise for eating an apple, my god taught us to grow our own fruit.

• When your god forbade knowledge, demanding we live in ignorance, my god created books.

• When your god smote cities like a tantrum-prone child, my god helped to rebuild them.

• When your god insisted the world was flat, my god showed his followers it was round, to their peril at the hands of your god's followers.

• While your god watched in silence as children sickened and died, my god created medicines to make them well.

• When your god winked and nodded at slavery, my god argued passionately against it.

• While your god represses half the human race, my god considers woman to be the equal of man.

• When your god only helps those who help themselves, my god rolls up his sleeves and actually does help until your god decides to join in, and then steals all the credit.

• When your god inspired great buildings and great art, my god made them possible.

• While your god says we are all born sinners, tainted before we even draw breath, my god says we are all born innocent; a clean slate with limitless potential.

• While your god offers dubious allusions of an afterlife, my god provides for us here in this life.

• While your god makes amazing promises, but offers not a shred of proof, my god performs amazing deeds, and the proof is there to be seen by all.

• While your god demands blind faith and obsequious obedience, my god encourages questions, even about himself.

• When your god says "Thou shalt not," my god says "You can do anything."

My god is reason.

He does more in a day than your god will ever do.
Outstanding.

He won't get it, though.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154039 Feb 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmm...

So quoting the words of another quack reveals your intellectual capabilities in presenting your beliefs?
You didn't like his post, did you Dave.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154040 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Awesome.

Who is your god?
Read the second to last line, dipshit.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154041 Feb 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Nice sounding words and vague associations with them they use. Of course they can't tell you how "REASON" came into being. Except by very vague associations. Then claim to be objective and free thinkers.

Why do Topix atheists have such a hazy relationship with reality?
It's all that methane you put out, Dave.

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#154042 Feb 14, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Your complete lack of knowledge on the subject is startling. You certainly come off as though you're some kind of intellectual genius, but this just puts you in a category of musical idiocy. Trying to illicit an angry response from me is a rather childish tact, and would have thought well beneath you. I don't usually provide free education, but seeing how desperately you need it, I'll suspend my usual fee.
Lets first begin with the fact that you are completely ignorant when it comes to understanding music, on any level. Your stupid comments on the brass family bear that out. Your first assignment is to listen to the opening of Mahler's 8th symphony and relate the importance of the brass family, yes that includes the trumpets. Next the opening of Strauss's (an Atheist composer) Also Sprach Zarathustra. A piece of music so filled with passion it has been used in numerous Movie scores, used in Stanley Kubrick's 2001. Elvis even used it to open his Las Vegas show. Now go back to the ending of Mahler's 8th symphony and tell me what impact the brass have, include the offstage trumpets. The test will NOT be graded on a curve, so pay attention.
What make s me a music critic? I am not only a performer (trumpet player) but a composer/arranger, and a full professor with a doctorate in composition. I do clinics, teach selected students privately, compose commissioned pieces, arrange for an assortment of vocalists and other performers, teach master classes at the college level, and review graduation portfolios for college seniors.
You are limited to a machine like mind, you're way out of your league here. Stick to your magnet and string and leave the emotions and passions of music to the creative mind, and the superior intellect.
:-)

A picture is worth a thousand words. A song can sum it all up in minutes.



People are emotional creatures. It is part of the overall scheme of expression by higher powers. They push buttons and play notes to get some action going. Simple minds are math heads just plodding along.

You were in the Army. You know you have to be taught to march, to follow the cadence set by someone else. You and your fellow plodder alongers holler a lot and make noise with your hot air pumping machines trying to get everyone to follow your cadence. You don't realize you are the ones out of step.

Get some poetry in your soul. Get you a duduk and emote.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154043 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>It's true.... Why are atheists fighting against something they don't believe exists??

Why don't they spend any time trying to get out anti-Casper blogs? Or anti-Bilbo Baggins blogs?

Answer: Because they don't believe in Casper or Bilbo....
Religion exists.

Ignorance exists.

Dogma exists.

Religious bigotry exists.

WTF are you talking about?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#154044 Feb 14, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>But it's not me that's arguing against something I have a non belief in, it's you.

I wouldn't waste 10 seconds of my life arguing against leprechauns or ghosts, I'm a non-believer in both.
Does religion exist?

Dolt.

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#154045 Feb 14, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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You didn't like his post, did you Dave.
I was not impressed with the quality of it.

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#154046 Feb 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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:-)
A picture is worth a thousand words. A song can sum it all up in minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =YyChmkPKi0IXX
People are emotional creatures. It is part of the overall scheme of expression by higher powers. They push buttons and play notes to get some action going. Simple minds are math heads just plodding along.
You were in the Army. You know you have to be taught to march, to follow the cadence set by someone else. You and your fellow plodder alongers holler a lot and make noise with your hot air pumping machines trying to get everyone to follow your cadence. You don't realize you are the ones out of step.
Get some poetry in your soul. Get you a duduk and emote.
So no proof of god then. Keep lying, we'll keep laughing at how many different ways you can try to articulate "I have absolutely no proof of god, but god is real I tellz ya, honest!"

“Ditat Deus”

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#154047 Feb 14, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
Its quite sad to see so many creationist godbots with no proof of god, still continuing their campaign of lies.
It's quite sad to see so many evolutionist athibots with no proof of no god, still continuing their campaign of lies.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154048 Feb 14, 2013
Siro wrote:
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Topix atheists by and large are marxists and/or sexual deviates.
These creatures think in terms of slogans as used in commie countries like north korea, they use the same sort of mantras as used by terrorist groups like the red army faction of germany, red brigades etc with their 'peoples revolutionary liberation struggle' and so on.
The hatred of God and viewing him as an enemy to be destroyed is compulsory to their political thinking not rational thinking.
They then merely rename their political thought as 'rational thought' and peddle it from there.
Their mental poison comes from the Frankfurt School of marxism, a combination of narcissism, hedonism and ultimately nihilism and probably something else.
And their "rational thought" & "skepticism" ends when a calculator can't give them any answers.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154049 Feb 14, 2013
The_Box wrote:
I've already told you.
Society is a mix of ideas. Some are good, some are bad. They all must be challenged. If someone says trickle-down economics is the best way to help the poor, people will stand up and say "That's crap." But in our country, religion gets a free pass. It shouldn't.
So then your ultimate goal is to overturn the Constitution?

Just as you have every American right to not believe, I have every American right to believe.

That, my boy, is freedom.

Enjoy it. Embrace it.
Really? So the gay friends can get married now? I can stop worrying about Christians trying to put Creationism and reconstructed history in schools? Christians have given up trying to strip funding for women's reproductive health?
Yes, gays can marry.

You can stop worrying about creationism when we stop worrying about evolutionism.

No, republicans are trying to make people understand that if a woman wants an abortion, it should NOT be federally subsidized. Pay for it yourself, bitch.

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#154050 Feb 14, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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So no proof of god then. Keep lying, we'll keep laughing at how many different ways you can try to articulate "I have absolutely no proof of god, but god is real I tellz ya, honest!"
There are two types of Topix atheist. Generically speaking.

You have those that are so enamored with the technical aspects of existence that they lost sight of the greater picture and kind of blunder about in a maze they can't get out of. A jeweler's loupe is a great device, but you don't want to walk around with it on.

Then you have those with the technical aspects rattling around loose in the case.

Get you a tube. Have a friend or someone to assist you.

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/threadlocking-...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#154051 Feb 14, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Read the second to last line, dipshit.
Ya, I got it. Just wanted to clarify that he believes in a god.

Not a true atheist, is he?

And to have a god that is a word? Strange....

Reason:

Noun
A cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#154052 Feb 14, 2013
Excellent deconstruction. You're very patient with the hard of thinking.
polymath257 wrote:
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The word 'creates' is a strange one here, but OK.
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This is false. For example, the center of mass in the Earth-Moon system is inside the earth. The location where the gravitational forces 'cancel' is fairly close to the moon. the 'wobble' is around the first.
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Wrong. The force produced by two masses on a third does not have to be directed towards the center of mass of the two.
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Huh?
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very nicely described by the vector addition of the different forces. But you don't think math applies here.
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If the masses are orbiting, the distances won't close: for two masses, the distance will be periodic.
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Well, the center of mass of two objects is always between the two.
<quoted text>
And here you go from simple ignorance to flat-out kook. The rest of your diatribe goes downhill from here.
Seriously, Dave, go get a book about this stuff and read it. The universe doesn't work the way you seem to think. And yes, the ideas in the books have been tested repeatedly over the last few centuries. They actually work in practice.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#154053 Feb 14, 2013
Straw man.

"deviates"?
Siro wrote:
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Topix atheists by and large are marxists and/or sexual deviates.
These creatures think in terms of slogans as used in commie countries like north korea, they use the same sort of mantras as used by terrorist groups like the red army faction of germany, red brigades etc with their 'peoples revolutionary liberation struggle' and so on.
The hatred of God and viewing him as an enemy to be destroyed is compulsory to their political thinking not rational thinking.
They then merely rename their political thought as 'rational thought' and peddle it from there.
Their mental poison comes from the Frankfurt School of marxism, a combination of narcissism, hedonism and ultimately nihilism and probably something else.

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