Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#153972 Feb 13, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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Frankly, it would not surprise me if the tele-evangelists were closet atheists, laughing all the way to the bank! You can ordain yourself. Tax free.
True believers would not extort money for Jesus - it would be damnation of the highest order..
Billy Graham got to better parties by shrewdly moving from fundamentalism to evangelicalism.
"Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven." Ė Matthew 19.23.
<sigh>
Amen, and Amen.

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#153973 Feb 13, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Be nice if he was actually playing something instead of slapping meaninglessly.
Tsk.

If you can get something out of some of that stuff you think is good, you can certainly get something out of that. We spoke about the Topix atheist ability to create their own reality.

I must confess I am having a hard time understanding how a trumpet player can be a music critic. They are notorious for blowing hot air and making noise. Something all brass instruments entail. It takes woodwinds, flutes, and stringed instruments to elicit emotions from other human beings. Non-Italian opera voices, also. Bells can be very good, too. I love the celesta.

I thought brass bands were created solely for the purpose of providing employment for blowhards after high school.

One can not be a trumpet player and have the sensitivity to impart true emotion into their renderings. Or to have those imparted to them.

Ever hear The Apricot Tree by Djanov Gasparyan? Armenian duduk. Very soulful. Have it played at your funeral. Everyone will cry, even those that didn't know you. And perhaps some of those that did.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#153974 Feb 13, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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1. Atheists are fighting against something they don't believe exists. It's like writing blogs against Caspar the Friendly Ghost or Bilbo Baggins. Why would you bother?
2. Atheists spend more time writing on Christian blogs than they do on their own. Just more gas on a nonexistent fire.
3. Atheists love to act intellectual until you catch them doing something illogical and then they scream profanities cause that's really intellectual.
4. Atheists have the word theist in their name. Every time they say who they are they call attention to God.
5. Atheist condemn all that's wrong with Christianity and yet can not produce one work of art, literature or sacrificial deed done in the name of atheism. Even they realize it's not worth dying for.
6. Atheists only believe in what their senses tell them unless its Darwin telling them things that happened billions of years ago, then they have more faith than a Catholic at First Communion.
7. Atheists believe in science unless the scientist believe in God, then they denounce the scientist and call him a moron.
8. Atheists believe in their fellow man, unless their fellow man believes in God then they denounce their fellow man and call him a moron.
9. Atheists believe in the great atheists of the past like Andrew Flew unless they change their mind and become theists then they denounce them and call them morons.
10. Atheists don't believe in morons unless they are atheists and then they embrace them and call them intellectuals.
If anyone has ever hit the nail on the head you certainly have.

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#153975 Feb 13, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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I think it was a "Combo."
Pizza pretzel? I like cheese pretzel.

Since: Sep 08

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#153976 Feb 13, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Aha, very good.
I placed a space after please to give a bit more stress to the exclamation points.
Otherwise, they were a bit lost, adjoining the last letter of please in capital letters.
Good catch!
Typical Topix atheist, taking liberties with the English language to suit their own purposes.

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#153977 Feb 13, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Yawn, all that to explain to me why you're off balance and out of this world? You could have just said ya dizzy.
But we already knew that Dave :)
I'm not dizzy, Orrie. I learned spotting a long time ago.

Life is just a bowl of levers.

I should write a song.

Since: Sep 08

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#153978 Feb 13, 2013
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/14/us-...

Interesting. Remember when it couldn't possibly have caused the fire that burned up all those men, women, and children at Waco?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#153979 Feb 13, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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"You're, not your."
That sentence didn't make a bit of sense. Shouldn't that be it is you're, not your?
Why the space after PLEASE?
He makes blunders all the freaking time. Yet he is trying to assert himself as being this grammar authority. I just quit responding to him. Heís shallow, boring and too freaking weird for me. His role playing as women is not normal. I wouldnít be surprised if he is a cross dresser.

Thereís creative writing courses he could take and learn how to actually say something. There are a lot of lawyers that canít write for sh*t. I think he is one of them. He does have some command of the language but not enough to express an in depth opinion. Heís always hanging around the shallow water.

His average word count is about 10 words. Thatís real damn impressive writing for sure.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#153980 Feb 13, 2013
Anon wrote:
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Okay, ya got me. In my defense, I don't beat the neighbor's dog.
You get points for being a good sport.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#153981 Feb 13, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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He makes blunders all the freaking time. Yet he is trying to assert himself as being this grammar authority. I just quit responding to him. Heís shallow, boring and too freaking weird for me. His role playing as women is not normal. I wouldnít be surprised if he is a cross dresser.
Thereís creative writing courses he could take and learn how to actually say something. There are a lot of lawyers that canít write for sh*t. I think he is one of them. He does have some command of the language but not enough to express an in depth opinion. Heís always hanging around the shallow water.
His average word count is about 10 words. Thatís real damn impressive writing for sure.
Dude!!

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#153982 Feb 13, 2013
EmpAtheist wrote:
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Pizza pretzel? I like cheese pretzel.
I like mine with butter,:)

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#153983 Feb 13, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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You get points for being a good sport.
Thank you.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#153984 Feb 13, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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1. Atheists are fighting against something they don't believe exists. It's like writing blogs against Caspar the Friendly Ghost or Bilbo Baggins. Why would you bother?
2. Atheists spend more time writing on Christian blogs than they do on their own. Just more gas on a nonexistent fire.
3. Atheists love to act intellectual until you catch them doing something illogical and then they scream profanities cause that's really intellectual.
4. Atheists have the word theist in their name. Every time they say who they are they call attention to God.
5. Atheist condemn all that's wrong with Christianity and yet can not produce one work of art, literature or sacrificial deed done in the name of atheism. Even they realize it's not worth dying for.
6. Atheists only believe in what their senses tell them unless its Darwin telling them things that happened billions of years ago, then they have more faith than a Catholic at First Communion.
7. Atheists believe in science unless the scientist believe in God, then they denounce the scientist and call him a moron.
8. Atheists believe in their fellow man, unless their fellow man believes in God then they denounce their fellow man and call him a moron.
9. Atheists believe in the great atheists of the past like Andrew Flew unless they change their mind and become theists then they denounce them and call them morons.
10. Atheists don't believe in morons unless they are atheists and then they embrace them and call them intellectuals.
1.) Religion is dangerous. Believing in something without evidence is ludicrous.

2,) Unfounded, completely without support....like your God.

3.) Thats because most of us are!!!

4.) A theist mean unbelief. So every time we say who we are, it called attention to our non-belief.

5.)"Atheist cannot produce ONE work of Art".....Holy shit, your lack of education and awareness is astonishing. No works of Art. here is a list of ATHEIST composers who produced some of the most astounding works of art....Dimitri Shostakovick...Nikolia Rimsky Korsakov...Richard Strauss...Verdi....Berlioz...B rahms...Maurice Ravel......Oh and Billy Joel and Frank Zappa. What complete and utter ignorance you possess, unbelievable!!!

6.)As apposed to believing in Imaginary beings and magic events. And worse, shaping their and their children's lives over them.

7.)Some "scientists" do believe in God, "science" however is silent on the subject as it ca nobly investigate that which exists in the naturalistic realm.

8.) In many cases it is warranted.

9.) Atheist have NO belief system. How ca you spend all this time on Topix and NOT realize this?

10.) Of course Atheist believe in morons, I'm talking to one now!!!!

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#153985 Feb 13, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.reuters.com/article /2013/02/14/us-usa-california- cop-idUSBRE91A11B20130214
Interesting. Remember when it couldn't possibly have caused the fire that burned up all those men, women, and children at Waco?
That Waco thing was a cluster f**k by the Federal Government. Using military tanks against the American People. Iím not saying these nut cases in Waco didnít need to be prosecuted. But those kids didnít deserve to be gassed and burned to death.

And it all lead to Timothy McVeigh retaliation in Oklahoma City. More innocent people died. Gross mismanagement by Federal Agencies.

In retro speck they should have built a double fence around the compound in Waco. Manned it and waited until however long it took for them to turn themselves in.

Since: Sep 08

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#153986 Feb 13, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
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1.) Religion is dangerous. Believing in something without evidence is ludicrous.
2,) Unfounded, completely without support....like your God.
3.) Thats because most of us are!!!
4.) A theist mean unbelief. So every time we say who we are, it called attention to our non-belief.
5.)"Atheist cannot produce ONE work of Art".....Holy shit, your lack of education and awareness is astonishing. No works of Art. here is a list of ATHEIST composers who produced some of the most astounding works of art....Dimitri Shostakovick...Nikolia Rimsky Korsakov...Richard Strauss...Verdi....Berlioz...B rahms...Maurice Ravel......Oh and Billy Joel and Frank Zappa. What complete and utter ignorance you possess, unbelievable!!!
6.)As apposed to believing in Imaginary beings and magic events. And worse, shaping their and their children's lives over them.
7.)Some "scientists" do believe in God, "science" however is silent on the subject as it ca nobly investigate that which exists in the naturalistic realm.
8.) In many cases it is warranted.
9.) Atheist have NO belief system. How ca you spend all this time on Topix and NOT realize this?
10.) Of course Atheist believe in morons, I'm talking to one now!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

Seems atheism, and the advancement of it, can get very pro-active at times. Which, of course, being an active thingy denotes a certain belief in the course of pro-activity being correct, and requires submission to the belief it is a proper course to take. Thus a religion of the avowed irreligious is created, meaning those that were "unbelievers" become de facto believers in unbelief. A commitment to action requires belief.

Or something like that.

The bottom line is this unbelief proposed by Topix atheists is in fact a bunch of bullshit.

Since: Sep 08

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#153987 Feb 13, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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That Waco thing was a cluster f**k by the Federal Government. Using military tanks against the American People. Iím not saying these nut cases in Waco didnít need to be prosecuted. But those kids didnít deserve to be gassed and burned to death.
And it all lead to Timothy McVeigh retaliation in Oklahoma City. More innocent people died. Gross mismanagement by Federal Agencies.
In retro speck they should have built a double fence around the compound in Waco. Manned it and waited until however long it took for them to turn themselves in.
Billary had the power to end that circus long before it ended that way. They let those children be terrorized by the actions taken, such as the bright lights, loud music, deprivation, and general siege threats.

Ed Brown, a tax evader, was holed up in a fortified bunker with outside help for a long time. He had vowed he would not be taken alive, and he had supporters coming and going. The Feds, under George Bush, kept a low profile siege, and a much cheaper one. An agent sneaked in as one of Ed brown's supporters. One agent. He told Brown he was under arrest and it was all over. Not one drop of blood spilled.

It amazes me there are people in this country that worship Hilary.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#153988 Feb 13, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Tsk.
If you can get something out of some of that stuff you think is good, you can certainly get something out of that. We spoke about the Topix atheist ability to create their own reality.
I must confess I am having a hard time understanding how a trumpet player can be a music critic. They are notorious for blowing hot air and making noise. Something all brass instruments entail. It takes woodwinds, flutes, and stringed instruments to elicit emotions from other human beings. Non-Italian opera voices, also. Bells can be very good, too. I love the celesta.
I thought brass bands were created solely for the purpose of providing employment for blowhards after high school.
One can not be a trumpet player and have the sensitivity to impart true emotion into their renderings. Or to have those imparted to them.
Ever hear The Apricot Tree by Djanov Gasparyan? Armenian duduk. Very soulful. Have it played at your funeral. Everyone will cry, even those that didn't know you. And perhaps some of those that did.
Your complete lack of knowledge on the subject is startling. You certainly come off as though you're some kind of intellectual genius, but this just puts you in a category of musical idiocy. Trying to illicit an angry response from me is a rather childish tact, and would have thought well beneath you. I don't usually provide free education, but seeing how desperately you need it, I'll suspend my usual fee.

Lets first begin with the fact that you are completely ignorant when it comes to understanding music, on any level. Your stupid comments on the brass family bear that out. Your first assignment is to listen to the opening of Mahler's 8th symphony and relate the importance of the brass family, yes that includes the trumpets. Next the opening of Strauss's (an Atheist composer) Also Sprach Zarathustra. A piece of music so filled with passion it has been used in numerous Movie scores, used in Stanley Kubrick's 2001. Elvis even used it to open his Las Vegas show. Now go back to the ending of Mahler's 8th symphony and tell me what impact the brass have, include the offstage trumpets. The test will NOT be graded on a curve, so pay attention.

What make s me a music critic? I am not only a performer (trumpet player) but a composer/arranger, and a full professor with a doctorate in composition. I do clinics, teach selected students privately, compose commissioned pieces, arrange for an assortment of vocalists and other performers, teach master classes at the college level, and review graduation portfolios for college seniors.

You are limited to a machine like mind, you're way out of your league here. Stick to your magnet and string and leave the emotions and passions of music to the creative mind, and the superior intellect.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#153989 Feb 13, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Billary had the power to end that circus long before it ended that way. They let those children be terrorized by the actions taken, such as the bright lights, loud music, deprivation, and general siege threats.
Ed Brown, a tax evader, was holed up in a fortified bunker with outside help for a long time. He had vowed he would not be taken alive, and he had supporters coming and going. The Feds, under George Bush, kept a low profile siege, and a much cheaper one. An agent sneaked in as one of Ed brown's supporters. One agent. He told Brown he was under arrest and it was all over. Not one drop of blood spilled.
It amazes me there are people in this country that worship Hilary.
Many lives could have been saved.Bright lights could do it, nor loud music. BUT....if they had played some "bucketed"REALLY LOUD that just might have driven them out of hiding.

“Ditat Deus”

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#153990 Feb 13, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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For some reason, I feel a responsibility to help the poor slob.
Hey, do you think somebody has earned the Dorner Million? If so, who?
Poor Eagle. Do you think you're helping?

I don't know about Dorner, I haven't been following it since yesterday. Is he dead or what?

“Ditat Deus”

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#153991 Feb 13, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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If anyone has ever hit the nail on the head you certainly have.
I didn't write it, but #1 was the best:

1. Atheists are fighting against something they don't believe exists. It's like writing blogs against Caspar the Friendly Ghost or Bilbo Baggins. Why would you bother?

Why DO they spend so much time "battling" something they claim to not believe in?

It's friggin hilarious.

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