Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#152482 Feb 8, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Oh and Jesus, if he ever existed, was 96% chimpanzee.
Funny, but true.

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#152483 Feb 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Which is why we collaborated to engineer circumstances where that is less likely to happen. No magic woo required.
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Hasn't seemed to work very well.

Since: Jun 07

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#152484 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are trying to deflect from the truth of my observation.
Your "humanism" is an invitation to predators and parasites without very strict and definitive controls. Until you have one culture, which will only be accomplished by force in this world, then you will have conflict.
Make sure your enemies are disarmed before letting them in for dinner.
Fuzzy thinking liberal Topix atheists. Dreamers without portfolio.
Show me some examples where peace and love and total trust occurred in the merging of large cultures without some violence happening.
There's no truth in what you say - you're a liar lying about a god you have no proof of.

The reality is that you suffer from a mental illness where you blame atheists for your stupidity.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#152485 Feb 8, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Remember the Crusades?
I donít remember the crusades. Iím not saying it didnít happen itís just I donít have any interest in that time and place in history.

Europeís history is so dark and dismal. Itís the last place in the world I would want to go visit.

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#152486 Feb 8, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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There's no truth in what you say - you're a liar lying about a god you have no proof of.
The reality is that you suffer from a mental illness where you blame atheists for your stupidity.
You are blurting.

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#152487 Feb 8, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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I donít remember the crusades. Iím not saying it didnít happen itís just I donít have any interest in that time and place in history.
Europeís history is so dark and dismal. Itís the last place in the world I would want to go visit.
Yes you avoid the places that prove how bad your cult really is. That makes sense given that you suffer from the mental illness of faith.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#152488 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are trying to deflect from the truth of my observation.
Your "humanism" is an invitation to predators and parasites without very strict and definitive controls. Until you have one culture, which will only be accomplished by force in this world, then you will have conflict.
Make sure your enemies are disarmed before letting them in for dinner.
Fuzzy thinking liberal Topix atheists. Dreamers without portfolio.
Show me some examples where peace and love and total trust occurred in the merging of large cultures without some violence happening.
Unsupported assertions.

More red herrings and straw man arguments. I get it, you're here to grumble and groan about the "old days" and pontificate.

You can do that, it's fine. Don't be surprised if the responses to your assertions continue to remain much like this one.

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#152489 Feb 8, 2013
Mylan wrote:
<quoted text>Remember the Crusades?
Nope!

I think it might have been before my time.

Remember the holocaust?

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

SŲdertšlje, Sweden

#152490 Feb 8, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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In the mix of your atheist ideology
Atheism isn't an ideology

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152491 Feb 8, 2013
How long have humans been on the earth Dave?
Dave Nelson wrote:
The very underpinnings of evolution is struggle and death. With the attendant varieties of application. Starvation, disease, and killing are vital and inescapable mechanisms of the process. Human cultures killing other human cultures is even part of that process. The culture is the basis of organization and survival of that group. Resistance to change is built into the evolutionary method as a way to maintain what was gained.
So man has been killing and mistreating man for a very long time. Evolutionary pressure caused such to happen.
But what do our brilliant Topix atheist purveyors of morality do?
They get on here and shriek "Goddidit".
Amazing, the intellectual heights they have achieved. I am sure they went to school for a very long time to get so smart.

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#152492 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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:-)
Perhaps you would be a nice girl and lick me and stick me together again?
Let's see...lick you or stick you? Which would be my fist choice?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152493 Feb 8, 2013
A wonderful post of reason that clearly illustrates the absurdity of Christianity and all religions for that matter.
TheBlackSheep wrote:
And, then, remembering what he had said to me about the Greek mythology being beautiful but not true, I said to him: "Your temples are indeed gorgeous and costly; your music is grand; your altars are superb; your litany is exquisite; your chants are melting; your incense, and bells and flowers, your gold and silver vessels are all
in rare taste, and I dare say your dogmas are subtle and your preachers eloquent, but your religion has one fault--_it is not true_."

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152494 Feb 8, 2013
Dave you honesty don't think you've ever even held your own in any debate with any topix atheists do you? Insulting the clear victors only makes you a sore loser.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are trying to deflect from the truth of my observation.
Your "humanism" is an invitation to predators and parasites without very strict and definitive controls. Until you have one culture, which will only be accomplished by force in this world, then you will have conflict.
Make sure your enemies are disarmed before letting them in for dinner.
Fuzzy thinking liberal Topix atheists. Dreamers without portfolio.
Show me some examples where peace and love and total trust occurred in the merging of large cultures without some violence happening.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152495 Feb 8, 2013
Not much of an education you received I see. Not surprising Daffy after all the idiotic statements you have humiliated yourself with on here.

So next time you wish to discuss science or history you will be reminded Of your lack of education that is so atrocious you can't even state even basic knowledge of what the crusades are.
Eagle12 wrote:
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I donít remember the crusades. Iím not saying it didnít happen itís just I donít have any interest in that time and place in history.
Europeís history is so dark and dismal. Itís the last place in the world I would want to go visit.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#152496 Feb 8, 2013
I am honored to have this much power and control over you. Tell me Daffy you think the holocaust was the will of your dark Palestinian god because it helped reform the state of Israel yet you want to call others sadist?

You lie about Arabs going into your Dad's hospital room and converting him to believe in Allah. You said he was this brutal tyrant who crammed atheism down everyone's throat but later said he was a wonderful, sweet charming fellow who everyone adored. You think that a serpent and a homo erectus look alike.

Lol! Crazy old Daffy, always good for a laugh.
Eagle12 wrote:
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In the mix of your atheist ideology there lays a sadist disorder. A ďSadist,Ē is one who enjoys inflecting pain. It most likely spawned from your childhood. This kind of disorder is seen in people for example who like to torture animals.
blacklagoon

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#152497 Feb 8, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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There is plenty of empirical evidence, recorded in history.
Also the evidence is within you and around you, in all the laws that govern mind and matter.
The problem is not evidence, the problem is tha you do not want to be led down the path the evidence provides.
So you suppress the truth, so that you can continue in sin.
There IS NO evidence for the existence of your God. There are however, stories and anecdotal testimony which hardly count as "empirical evidence." As someone once said "The evidence for God is the same as for werewolves."
Now what usually happens after someone makes such claim, is support for this claim follows. Fossil records, some other kind of physical evidence, anything can be traced back and connected to your God thing. We have evidence for Alexander the Great, DNA from his father I think. You don't even have reliable or historical evidence for Jesus. You once again have some anecdotal testimony, and lots of stories passed down over the centuries. The fact is, there are NO contemporary accounts of Jesus outside of the bible. Everything that was written about Jesus was written decades after his supposed death.

There is no evidence within me or around me. I'm an animal the same as you. I was born and will cease to live at some point. The marvels of my body are the work of millions of years of evolution, as is the world around me. There is no magic involved, pure biology and science is the answer. I'm sure you believe there is some mystical magical being responsible, but all that exists, like your God, only in YOUR mind.

There are NO laws that govern "Mind" only matter. And those laws may well have existed always.

You do what all Theists and fundies do, you state your beliefs as factual, and do so without a shred of evidence. I use to find this annoying, now I find it extremely comical. So very childlike. "Oh look, a rainbow, its so beautiful it must be God." "Look at how complex our bodies are, I can't for one moment understand this complexity, only God could have created such perfection." You can't understand it so........GODDIDIT. You see something awe inspiring so......GOGDIDIT. So very childish. Oh, BTW, the human body is very far from perfect.

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#152498 Feb 8, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Let's see...lick you or stick you? Which would be my fist choice?
:-)

I could guess.

I'll get some Elmer's.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#152499 Feb 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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A bigger hit on electricity. 240v and 37 amp on this electric heater. The meter dial literally turns 70 plus times faster when it kicks in. Once it is up to temp it usually only runs for 30-60 seconds every half hour or so, but 24/7 that adds up.
Sounds like you have moisture getting under the tiles. In lieu of having it all redone, let it dry out, clean as good as you can, and use some silicone glue behind the loose ones. If you get it dried out try putting some wax or something over the tile to help keep the moisture out.
You ought to see the custom cover I made. The original was shot. This tub is in an eight foot square enclosure. Big tub. I made a frame of PVC, used plastic sheets and cheap tarps from WalMart wrapped around to enclose wall and heater duct insulation scraps I had. Works better than the original, and lots lighter. The frame is just outside the rim of the tub, so it seals real good. I use a couple of ropes and pulleys to raise and lower. No strain.
Thanks for the tip. Problem is, I'm not very handy.

I have a good cover, it folds in the middle and has handles on either end, so I can lift and remove any rainwater. Fairly light, I don't know what it's filled with. It also hugs well, no seal but works well. I bought it....

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#152500 Feb 8, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Dave you honesty don't think you've ever even held your own in any debate with any topix atheists do you? Insulting the clear victors only makes you a sore loser.
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Porn pimp, I have argued with crazy people before. It's a no win.

This is recreation.

Keep your faith, baby.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#152501 Feb 8, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
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The cause of sadism is not fully known but it is believed to have been a result of something that happened in your childhood. A good physiologist could perhaps uncover what it is that has made this sadism evolve in your persona.
A physiologist?

Dude!

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