Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#151775 Feb 4, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Do remember to thank your all powerful god for miscarriages and childhood leukaemia.
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So I assume that if you think miscarriages are wrong, you are opposed to abortion?

Do you also thank God for that?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#151776 Feb 4, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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.... sin in you, controls you, so that you cannot even reason clearly and logically and see the absurdity of your argument.
Cop-out, you cannot counter GML's argument so you just call it "sin."

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#151777 Feb 4, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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God is the source of those absolutes, I have made that abundantly clear.
But how can you as an atheist make absolute claims like you have done here?
You can only do that by denying atheism.
You realise that you have done that here, right?
You cannot have a source for "absolute," things either are absolute or not. If your god does not have to abide by something, then it is not absolute because there is an exception. If it is absolute then your god must abide it as well, otherwise it would not be an absolute.

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#151778 Feb 4, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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What a demeaning religion...a child is born with a big fat "WELCOME TO THE WORLD, SINNER!!!"
Demeaning?

I thought you were an atheist?

You keep making absolute moral statements that clearly reveal you are fully aware of the transcendental absolute laws of morality that have been revealed to you by God...

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#151779 Feb 4, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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What a demeaning religion...a child is born with a big fat "WELCOME TO THE WORLD, SINNER!!!"
But let us consider your belief system.

Man is born an animal and has no purpose, not destiny and no hope.

And you think the promise of rescue from this world and eternal life is a negative?

Wow...

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#151780 Feb 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Cop-out, you cannot counter GML's argument so you just call it "sin."
No, I am accounting for GML's arbitrary and inconsistent appeal to two different standards at the same time.

The same practice that you engage in, over and over, in many of your posts.

You argue the principles of atheism, whilst appealing subconsciously to the principles of christianity to prove your atheism.

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#151781 Feb 4, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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I cope I suppose.
This secular Dark Ages we are currently living in is not conducive to good rational logical discussion that is clear.
But, as the bible teaches, it is about to come to an end soon enough and all this foolishness will cease.
Oh my - the end is near? Again?

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#151782 Feb 4, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Ah, so you retreated to the intellectual bastions of prejudiced ad hominem...
You realise that as soon as you do that, you have basically retreated from the field of battle?
You do realize that in an intellectual battle you're outgunned since all of your arguments boil down to "God good - everything else bad."

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#151783 Feb 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You cannot have a source for "absolute," things either are absolute or not. If your god does not have to abide by something, then it is not absolute because there is an exception. If it is absolute then your god must abide it as well, otherwise it would not be an absolute.
You are making a simple error in your premise that many atheists make.

You assume that the argument is that "everything" has a cause.

When the reality is that only "effects" have a cause.

The universe and man was effected, by the First Cause.

The First Cause, by simple deductive logic cannot be "caused", as He is not an effect of anything.

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#151784 Feb 4, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Demeaning?
I thought you were an atheist?
You keep making absolute moral statements that clearly reveal you are fully aware of the transcendental absolute laws of morality that have been revealed to you by God...
There is no god, therefore, no god has revealed anything to me.

Seriously, this is why you look so silly...

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#151785 Feb 4, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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You do realize that in an intellectual battle you're outgunned since all of your arguments boil down to "God good - everything else bad."
Unless you can account for the laws of logic, you have no right to step onto the battlefield...

So lets see your credentials...

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#151786 Feb 4, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Oh my - the end is near? Again?
Indeed.

And deep down inside you know that.

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#151787 Feb 4, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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But let us consider your belief system.
Man is born an animal and has no purpose, not destiny and no hope.
And you think the promise of rescue from this world and eternal life is a negative?
Wow...
Actually, in my belief system (or, as I like to call it, reality) a child is born and over the years of his or her life, creates his or her own destiny and purpose and has all the hope that his or her life experience allows....

How sad for people like you whose only hope is to die and THEN live a better existence.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#151788 Feb 4, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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You are making a simple error in your premise that many atheists make.
You assume that the argument is that "everything" has a cause.
When the reality is that only "effects" have a cause.
The universe and man was effected, by the First Cause.
The First Cause, by simple deductive logic cannot be "caused", as He is not an effect of anything.
You are the one assuming, you assume everything must be created, and call it an absolute, then exempt your god from it, which makes it no longer an absolute. Thus your entire assumption is a failure from the start.

“Rising”

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#151789 Feb 4, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Here we go again , the evidence clearly shows?, is very probable ? both are lies told to defend your faith.Denial , one of the main tenets of the puddle gooist church.
It is absolutely not lies that the evidence supports that life sprang from early Earth , and progressed in evolution to what we see today. There is absolutely no evidence of anything else, It isn't what I wanted to hear, it isn't what I cared to find , It is however exactly how it really is. There is no church of abiogenesis, there is no faith in the science, there is only evidence that shows it to be the way it is. It is not my problem accepting the truth, but it sure appears to be yours.

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#151790 Feb 4, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Actually, in my belief system (or, as I like to call it, reality) a child is born and over the years of his or her life, creates his or her own destiny and purpose and has all the hope that his or her life experience allows....
How sad for people like you whose only hope is to die and THEN live a better existence.
How can a chemical fizz have destiny or purpose?

How can you account for that as an atheist.

I can account for that for you.

You were created with the opportunity to live eternally with a loving God, that adores you.

That is where your sense of hope and purpose comes from.

But your sinful desire to suppress the truth of God, keeps you from your destiny and purpose.

So you then create a false sense of destiny and purpose that has no basis in reality and is shallow in form, to make up for the true destiny and purpose you have the opportunity to grasp.

If you turn back to God and acknowledge Him, He will correct that for you, and show you the true depth and value that you really have to Him.

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#151791 Feb 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You are the one assuming, you assume everything must be created, and call it an absolute, then exempt your god from it, which makes it no longer an absolute. Thus your entire assumption is a failure from the start.
God is self evident.

It is not a matter of assuming, it is a matter of opening ones eyes.

It is a matter of turning from the sinful nature you have, that is suppressing the truth in you.

The First Cause is not assumed.

The First Cause simply Is.

And thats why Gods name is:

I AM.

“cdesign proponentsists”

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#151792 Feb 4, 2013
Some more christian love:

http://www.cnn.com/video/...

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#151793 Feb 4, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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It is absolutely not lies that the evidence supports that life sprang from early Earth , and progressed in evolution to what we see today. There is absolutely no evidence of anything else, It isn't what I wanted to hear, it isn't what I cared to find , It is however exactly how it really is. There is no church of abiogenesis, there is no faith in the science, there is only evidence that shows it to be the way it is. It is not my problem accepting the truth, but it sure appears to be yours.
There is no empirical evidence for abiogenesis.

None.

All there is, is a philosophical suppression of the truth, that requires fairy tales to be accepted.

And a faith in that fairy tale.

You have self deceived faith that a "rockdidit", nothing else.

And the only reason you have that, is becuse your sinful nature seeks to deny the Creator of the universe and His claims on your person.

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#151794 Feb 4, 2013
And atheists have this one thing in common.

They seek to suppress the truth of God, so that they can continue being subject to their sinful nature.

And they believe that that foolish shared suppression is somehow related to scientific endeavor and logic...

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