Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#151236 Feb 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Faraday
ALL of your modern physics is a direct result of this man. Read about him.
Einstein kept a picture of him on his wall. Along with pictures of Newton and Maxwell.
God's gifts to science.:-)
God isn't real. Just because a man does great science does not mean that his views on politics or religion are valid.

This is the point which you fail to realise.

Again, you make the mistake of name dropping Einstein - an atheist through and through.

"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." - Albert Einstein.

Keep trying to lie creationist. I'll serve you out with the facts.

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#151237 Feb 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Faraday
ALL of your modern physics is a direct result of this man. Read about him.
Einstein kept a picture of him on his wall. Along with pictures of Newton and Maxwell.
God's gifts to science.:-)
YOu have a tough ladder to climb. First you need to get an atheist to doubt their position. Then once they doubt you have to work them all the way up to believing that the earth is 6000 years old.

We're not f*cking stupid and we will never submit to your ridiculous cult. You are wasting your time in this forum creationist dave.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#151238 Feb 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Faraday
ALL of your modern physics is a direct result of this man. Read about him.
Einstein kept a picture of him on his wall. Along with pictures of Newton and Maxwell.
God's gifts to science.:-)
Appeal to authority. That's a fallacy in case you didn't know.

Newton believed you could turn lead to gold with funny words and water. Geniuses often believe in something crazy, it's possibly a side effect of being genius, it doesn't make their beliefs fact, it just means they have some odd beliefs.
Religion is Fraud

Granby, CT

#151239 Feb 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Faraday
ALL of your modern physics is a direct result of this man. Read about him.
Einstein kept a picture of him on his wall. Along with pictures of Newton and Maxwell.
God's gifts to science.:-)
While it takes a certain level of intellect to reject an appealing world view of life after death and a loving father figure in the sky watching over you, this does not mean that intelligent people still can't choose, due to their lack of moral character, to go with the feel good personally appealing world view over a world view guided by reason.

If Faraday was a theist then he was a hypocrite like evey other theist, holding his death denying dogma to zero standard of proof and when a scientist does this it is even more hypocritical for they know full well what proper reasoning is for they use it every day in their work.

Your use of Faraday proves how intellectually dishonest you are. It would be like me using the very bright Bernie Madoff as a means to justify stealing.
Religion is Fraud

Granby, CT

#151240 Feb 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Like Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, and a host of other scientists?
What happened to your pat moniker? Are you having a personality rotation?
Where did I argue that a scientist can't be a coward or a hypocrite? I'm glad you like my new name!

"Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being."-- Albert Einstein, 1936

“Ditat Deus”

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#151241 Feb 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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So stop lying about a god that isn't really there
LMAO!!

So you're telling the truth?

It's spelled: hypocrite, btw.

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#151242 Feb 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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thank you for demonstrating that your religion is most likely wrong.
That is most likely a terrible argument.

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#151243 Feb 1, 2013
The_Box wrote:
Sure. When deprived of oxygen, the brain is damaged very quickly. People who aren't breathing for 10 minutes will already have suffered severe brain damage. Jesus was out 3 days. His brain would have been totally gone.
Sure, for a human...

Jesus is God. He can survive without oxygen...

It's really cute how atheists feel a need to put human limitations on God.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#151244 Feb 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
God isn't real. Just because a man does great science does not mean that his views on politics or religion are valid.
This is the point which you fail to realise.
Again, you make the mistake of name dropping Einstein - an atheist through and through.
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." - Albert Einstein.
Keep trying to lie creationist. I'll serve you out with the facts.
"Just because a man does great science does not mean that his views on politics or religion are valid."

:-)

“Ditat Deus”

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#151245 Feb 1, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Not at all, because all its growth is occurring in regions irrelevant to my life.
Does it trouble you that its dying in the 1st World?
No, not at all. Because it isn't dying.

Christianity gets appr 3 million conversions per year and 22 million new adherents

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#151246 Feb 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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YOu have a tough ladder to climb. First you need to get an atheist to doubt their position. Then once they doubt you have to work them all the way up to believing that the earth is 6000 years old.
We're not f*cking stupid and we will never submit to your ridiculous cult. You are wasting your time in this forum creationist dave.
You are wrong. About the stupid, anyhow.

“Ditat Deus”

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#151247 Feb 1, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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From your own link:
2006 Christianity: 74.8%
2031 Christianity: 64.8%
It sure is convenient when you prove yourself wrong!
Try again, sonny Jim.

Look at the "Medium growth projection for 2006 and 2031" part.

Estimated rise of 12.1%

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#151248 Feb 1, 2013
Religion is Fraud wrote:
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While it takes a certain level of intellect to reject an appealing world view of life after death and a loving father figure in the sky watching over you, this does not mean that intelligent people still can't choose, due to their lack of moral character, to go with the feel good personally appealing world view over a world view guided by reason.
If Faraday was a theist then he was a hypocrite like evey other theist, holding his death denying dogma to zero standard of proof and when a scientist does this it is even more hypocritical for they know full well what proper reasoning is for they use it every day in their work.
Your use of Faraday proves how intellectually dishonest you are. It would be like me using the very bright Bernie Madoff as a means to justify stealing.
You have some serious issues about perceptions being influenced by emotion. Menopause?

“Ditat Deus”

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#151249 Feb 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
God isn't real.
And just how have you come to this glorious assumption?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#151250 Feb 1, 2013
Ah, poor Topix atheists, they have nothing to live for other than expressing their angst. In the most obnoxious ways, way too often.

“Ditat Deus”

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#151251 Feb 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
God isn't real.
Keep trying to lie creationist. I'll serve you out with the facts.
*sips coffee and waits for Septic's facts that God isn't real*

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#151252 Feb 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Sure, for a human...
Jesus is God. He can survive without oxygen...
It's really cute how atheists feel a need to put human limitations on God.
Funny how theists project their emotional states onto their god, no?

“Ditat Deus”

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#151253 Feb 1, 2013
Religion is Fraud wrote:
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While it takes a certain level of intellect to reject an appealing world view of life after death and a loving father figure in the sky watching over you, this does not mean that intelligent people still can't choose, due to their lack of moral character, to go with the feel good personally appealing world view over a world view guided by reason.
If Faraday was a theist then he was a hypocrite like evey other theist, holding his death denying dogma to zero standard of proof and when a scientist does this it is even more hypocritical for they know full well what proper reasoning is for they use it every day in their work.
Your use of Faraday proves how intellectually dishonest you are. It would be like me using the very bright Bernie Madoff as a means to justify stealing.
Why do you believe God is a father figure in the sky watching over you?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#151254 Feb 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No, not at all. Because it isn't dying.
Christianity gets appr 3 million conversions per year and 22 million new adherents
That's 0.0005% of the population of the the world converting. Not a very fast growth, it's slowing down in more educated locales, and increasing a lot in places like Africa. Which does not bode well for you, because a starving person will convert to any religion for a slice of bread.

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#151255 Feb 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Try again, sonny Jim.
Look at the "Medium growth projection for 2006 and 2031" part.
Estimated rise of 12.1%
You really have absolutely no idea how math works, do you? You should go back to first grade and learn math.

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