Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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Since: Jul 07

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#148589 Jan 17, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Tell you what? If you want to be subjugated because you are a woman, that's your affair. I was just trying to understand your point of view.
I meant tell me why we can't be equals LOL

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#148590 Jan 17, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Well, more specifically, Moses supposedly freed the *Jews* from Egyptian slavery. So it's OK to enslave some people, but not others.
Fun fact: there is actually no objective evidence that the Jews were ever systematically enslaved by the Egyptians, nor is there any evidence for a mass exodus of between 2-3 million people from Egypt either.
Exodus 9:9 Then the Lord said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh, and tell him, Thus saith the Lord God of the Hebrews, Let my people go, that they may serve me....

My people....

And why do you think they stopped building pyramids? No slaves to build them, not the lack of belief by the Pharoah's of what the pyramids represented....

***The theory that they could not have been slaves is based on three known facts, but all of those facts are subject to interpretations.

First, even high-ranking workers (found in tombs near the pyramids) have stress fractures in their bones, indicating heavy manual labor. The theory goes that the vast bulk of workers could not have been slaves if the overseers were working just as hard. Maybe, or maybe that was just what the job called for. Perhaps the high-ranking overseers worked just as hard, but they doubtless got paid and fed better. Did the lower-ranking workers get paid at all?

Second, there are hundreds of tombs of people buried in the shadow of the pyramid. Why would slaves be allowed such a privilege? Well, who says it was a privilege? Maybe the king wanted his servants nearby. Also, it is estimated that 25,000 people worked on the pyramid, but only a few hundred are buried there. Obviously, the lower-ranking workers (slaves?) were not given such burials.

Third, there is graffiti inside the pyramid referring to the "gang of Khufu" and other work gangs. Ok, why does the fact that the workers were organized into gangs mean they were not slaves? Why does the fact that at least one of them knew how to write mean that the other members of the "gang" were not illiterate peasants or slaves?

Can we not just say "we don't know" about this one? What is the actual definition of slavery? Well, other than the "being property of someone", a slave is an unpaid worker who is not free to leave and find other work. If you were a farmer in Egypt you only worked so many months a year (due to the Nile flood cycles) so during the off months you sat idle, and either ate food you had stored, or you starved. If the king said you could work on his pyramid for three meals and a place to sleep, maybe you really had no choice? If you had no choice, were you any better than a slave?

http://federationcommander.blogspot.com.au/20... ***

You could say you don't know, or you could wonder where the bones of all those slaves are, and reason with yourself why you don't believe our Historians, when today they are just having a guess!!

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#148591 Jan 17, 2013
Crazy people say the dumbest sh!t. First off are you claiming that the Egyptians only had Hebrew slaves? A majority of Egyptian slaves were Egyptians.

:shakes head:
Serah wrote:
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Exodus 9:9 Then the Lord said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh, and tell him, Thus saith the Lord God of the Hebrews, Let my people go, that they may serve me....
My people....
And why do you think they stopped building pyramids? No slaves to build them, not the lack of belief by the Pharoah's of what the pyramids represented....
***The theory that they could not have been slaves is based on three known facts, but all of those facts are subject to interpretations.
First, even high-ranking workers (found in tombs near the pyramids) have stress fractures in their bones, indicating heavy manual labor. The theory goes that the vast bulk of workers could not have been slaves if the overseers were working just as hard. Maybe, or maybe that was just what the job called for. Perhaps the high-ranking overseers worked just as hard, but they doubtless got paid and fed better. Did the lower-ranking workers get paid at all?
Second, there are hundreds of tombs of people buried in the shadow of the pyramid. Why would slaves be allowed such a privilege? Well, who says it was a privilege? Maybe the king wanted his servants nearby. Also, it is estimated that 25,000 people worked on the pyramid, but only a few hundred are buried there. Obviously, the lower-ranking workers (slaves?) were not given such burials.
Third, there is graffiti inside the pyramid referring to the "gang of Khufu" and other work gangs. Ok, why does the fact that the workers were organized into gangs mean they were not slaves? Why does the fact that at least one of them knew how to write mean that the other members of the "gang" were not illiterate peasants or slaves?
Can we not just say "we don't know" about this one? What is the actual definition of slavery? Well, other than the "being property of someone", a slave is an unpaid worker who is not free to leave and find other work. If you were a farmer in Egypt you only worked so many months a year (due to the Nile flood cycles) so during the off months you sat idle, and either ate food you had stored, or you starved. If the king said you could work on his pyramid for three meals and a place to sleep, maybe you really had no choice? If you had no choice, were you any better than a slave?
http://federationcommander.blogspot.com.au/20... ***
You could say you don't know, or you could wonder where the bones of all those slaves are, and reason with yourself why you don't believe our Historians, when today they are just having a guess!!

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Since: May 08

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#148592 Jan 17, 2013
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#148593 Jan 17, 2013
You can be equal if you dump the misogynist bible.
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>I meant tell me why we can't be equals LOL
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#148594 Jan 17, 2013
Top half or bottom half?
Clementia wrote:
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Awww!
I made half a snowman yesterday and now i got cold!:-(

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Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#148595 Jan 17, 2013
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>Considering one lives a full life. Which is longer, seven years of slavery or a entire lifetime of slavery?
How long have YOU been a slave?

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#148596 Jan 17, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Assistant door greeter he dreams to one day reach door greeter skill.
Still waiting for that quote where Hitler calls himself an atheist. Any year now pussyassbitch any year now.
You're a sad little troll.
When did I say that Hitler called himself an atheist?
I'll wait.

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#148597 Jan 17, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
He pulled it out of his buttermilk chugging @ss. Hitler was a lifelong Christian and never once claimed himself to be an atheist. He is using the sad old whoever was bad must have been an atheist because I don't like atheists shtick.
No, I'm going off of Hitler's own words.

And not the propaganda words he used in public in order to get elected, I mean Hitler's private words. He hated Christianity & thought it was the blight of humanity.

You're an odd troll but a troll none the less.

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#148598 Jan 17, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
God allowed Noah to enslave his own son and all of his children for their entire lives all because he found Noah drunk.
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You need to stop reading the Bible like it's one of your Hairy Pooter books....

What you're referring to is a prophecy, which came true btw, in the times of Joshua, when the Israelites, who came from Shem, conquered the land of Canaan, killed thirty of their kings, and took their cities and kept them as their own.

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#148599 Jan 17, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You need to stop reading the Bible like it's one of your Hairy Pooter books....
What you're referring to is a prophecy, which came true btw, in the times of Joshua, when the Israelites, who came from Shem, conquered the land of Canaan, killed thirty of their kings, and took their cities and kept them as their own.
A prophecy written after the fact is called a legend.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#148600 Jan 17, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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in the times of Joshua, when the Israelites, who came from Shem, conquered the land of Canaan, killed thirty of their kings, and took their cities and kept them as their own.
First this is not history but legend and highly dubious at that.

Second the conquest of Canaan as a story we would today call genocide, it is repulsive and insane, and should be regarded with complete contempt by any rational thinking person.

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#148601 Jan 17, 2013
Adam wrote:
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First this is not history but legend and highly dubious at that.
Second the conquest of Canaan as a story we would today call genocide, it is repulsive and insane, and should be regarded with complete contempt by any rational thinking person.
Why is genocide wrong in an atheistic worldview?

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#148602 Jan 17, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Why is genocide wrong in an atheistic worldview?
Because our species evolved a social trait called empathy, which is very common in all mammals, and even some insects.
Pat

Granby, CT

#148603 Jan 17, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Why is genocide wrong in an atheistic worldview?
How is the golden rule linked to an irrational belief in gods?

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#148604 Jan 17, 2013
You claimed Hitler was an atheist remember retard? Do you remember stating that retard? I asked for you to show where Hitler ever referred to himself as an atheist and you cherry picked a out of a huge stack of his pro religion comments the rare negative comments he made. That doesn't make him an atheist it just means he at times grew weary of religious leaders. Are you able to understand that retard drinking river water?

Again for you to back up your claim that he was an atheist you will be required to show him stating he was an atheist. Otherwise all you have is your imagination. Much like all you have for the proof of god is your imagination so hey! Lol!

Hurry up retard either show where hitler called himself an atheist or be factually crushed, again.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You're a sad little troll.
When did I say that Hitler called himself an atheist?
I'll wait.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#148605 Jan 17, 2013
Apologetic nonsense. Hey while you are looking up where Hitler claimed to be an atheist let's have another laugh at your expense ok retard?

RR: Catholics are not Christians!
GML; what is the largest Christian church?
RR: The Catholic Church of course! Errr uh uh ... Dammit!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You need to stop reading the Bible like it's one of your Hairy Pooter books....
What you're referring to is a prophecy, which came true btw, in the times of Joshua, when the Israelites, who came from Shem, conquered the land of Canaan, killed thirty of their kings, and took their cities and kept them as their own.

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Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#148606 Jan 17, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
You claimed Hitler was an atheist remember retard? Do you remember stating that retard? I asked for you to show where Hitler ever referred to himself as an atheist and you cherry picked a out of a huge stack of his pro religion comments the rare negative comments he made. That doesn't make him an atheist it just means he at times grew weary of religious leaders. Are you able to understand that retard drinking river water?
Again for you to back up your claim that he was an atheist you will be required to show him stating he was an atheist. Otherwise all you have is your imagination. Much like all you have for the proof of god is your imagination so hey! Lol!
Hurry up retard either show where hitler called himself an atheist or be factually crushed, again.
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All you're doing is showing how much of a troll you really are...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#148607 Jan 17, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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A prophecy written after the fact is called a legend.
When atheist misquotes or misinterprets the bible (which is often the case), I have to correct them.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#148608 Jan 17, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Why is genocide wrong in an atheistic worldview?
I know what you are doing here. Not facing up to the reality of the insane cruelty and barbarity of the old testament. These "prophets" are nothing but deluded psychotic barbarians. That is why these desert religions are best consigned to the waste bin.

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