Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[macumazahn]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Picking up sticks is less work than any of those.

Yah.

And dragging a chair across a floor might make a furrow. That counts as plowing, so that's out.

Seriously, who thinks this shit up?

[macumazahn]

Serah wrote:

<quoted text>Do you know what Graven Image means?
"An idol or fetish carved in wood or stone"
Do you know what an idol is (apart from our super stars of course LOL)
"a. An image used as an object of worship. b. A false god. 2. One that is adored, often blindly or excessively"

"Graven" means "carved" That's all.

"Image" means "picture or representation".

So, any carving of anything is out.

[Dave Nelson]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Erm, yes it does.

Coherency seems to be one of your weaknesses.

"Erm, yes it does." what?

The bottom of the stratosphere is colder than the top. It's an inversion layer. There is a filtering action preventing much material from diffusing up into it. Some thunderstorms, volcanic eruptions, and airyplanes and rockets puncture that boundary called the tropopause, injecting stuff that otherwise wouldn't get up there. Once it does it tends to stay there. It puts another blanket on the bed.

[RiversideRedneck]

wilderide wrote:

Ephesians 5:21-24: "Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."
Pretty clear, no?

Why stop there?

Ephesians 5:25 (the very next verse) Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her

Colossians 3:19 Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

Genesis 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

Proverbs 18:22 He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.

Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.

My wife submits to me and I to her. Are you not the same?

[RiversideRedneck]

wilderide wrote:

Not Christian ideology.

Sure they can, they just can't preach to MEN.

(hint: male children are not men)

[KittenKoder]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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Coherency seems to be one of your weaknesses.
"Erm, yes it does." what?
The bottom of the stratosphere is colder than the top. It's an inversion layer. There is a filtering action preventing much material from diffusing up into it. Some thunderstorms, volcanic eruptions, and airyplanes and rockets puncture that boundary called the tropopause, injecting stuff that otherwise wouldn't get up there. Once it does it tends to stay there. It puts another blanket on the bed.

Well, ignoring the fact that the largest contributors to greenhouse gases are all in the stratosphere, inert gases can make it all the way to the ozone, because they don't react with anything and only when they react with something do their weights actually change comparatively. But you are correct, they do keep adding "blankets" to the atmosphere. But the problem is that it's not likely to be the gases we release that tipped the climate change, but the energy near the glaciers that did.

[RiversideRedneck]

-Skeptic- wrote:

evolution is a fact, only idiots deny facts.

Which part of it is a fact?

[Dave Nelson]

KittenKoder wrote:

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It's kinetic energy, "wave" and "vibration" is simply a description of kinetic energy. Since electromagnetic force is the most powerful it becomes a lot of kinetic energy when released, that is that "wave" from the source, the conversion of electromagnetic to kinetic. The frequency of the atomic structure, however, will cause different reactions to the kinetic force, this is because of the electromagnetic force in those atoms.
Heat is a measure of the presence of any and all energy, it's very vague, also very subjective. Even the Kelvin scale is not accurate for measuring energy, because of the various forms of energy, temperature can only tell how "excited" the atoms are.

You are almost trying to describe what I have said about motion of space, THE ENERGY, caught in loops, creating matter. and being transferred. Motion is THE force.

Heat is the wave the streams of space make in running their loops. No matter how big those loops are. Most of those are pulsed streams.

[RiversideRedneck]

macumazahn wrote:

<quoted text>"Graven" means "carved" That's all.
"Image" means "picture or representation".
So, any carving of anything is out.

Only if it's worshipped.

[KittenKoder]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Why stop there?
Ephesians 5:25 (the very next verse) Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
Colossians 3:19 Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.
Genesis 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
Proverbs 18:22 He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.
Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.
My wife submits to me and I to her. Are you not the same?

Your book contains a lot of commands of female subjugation, that does not bode well for you.

[Pat]

-Skeptic- wrote:

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evolution is a fact, only idiots deny facts.

No, only cowards will deny facts that are not to their liking, idiots are just plain stupid they are not dishonest like the theist.

[Pat]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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:-)
Your time will come.
But you won't even remember me telling you this.
Your body in shock shuts off the processing of those senses. People vary in just how much shock it takes to do that. It is a potential reset state for the mind, dependent on the injury sustained. There is no way strict evolution can save such things in genes, as most tend to die exposed helpless to the elements and animals. Particularly if man evolved as proclaimed.

Thumb suckers unite!

[wilderide]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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They normally don't get into the stratosphere. That is a boundary layer.

Please explain.

[wilderide]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Why stop there?
Ephesians 5:25 (the very next verse) Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
Colossians 3:19 Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.
Genesis 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
Proverbs 18:22 He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.
Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.
My wife submits to me and I to her. Are you not the same?

I see. So you are supposed to love your wife while she subjugates herself completely to you. It's like slavery, but with a pretty bow on top.

[wilderide]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Sure they can, they just can't preach to MEN.
(hint: male children are not men)

Not Christian ideology. That is left to the male church leader or the husband. The wife can instruct the kids on other things, such as don't abuse the slaves, leave that to dad. But Christian ideology? Nope.

[Dave Nelson]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Well, ignoring the fact that the largest contributors to greenhouse gases are all in the stratosphere, inert gases can make it all the way to the ozone, because they don't react with anything and only when they react with something do their weights actually change comparatively. But you are correct, they do keep adding "blankets" to the atmosphere. But the problem is that it's not likely to be the gases we release that tipped the climate change, but the energy near the glaciers that did.

I understand your point about the poles, but I see the telluric currents energizing the ice molecules, not simple old heat melting the ice.

For a pretty long time the earth has been collecting energies from space, and redirecting them within itself according to resistances within it. Those energies are almost all EM in nature, and the flows follow the path of least resistance. Too much resistance and you get earthquakes and such rearrangements. Climate is very much affected by this. The earth is a resistive conductor transferring energy from without and within.

Our industrial gases and other such endeavors have an indirect effect on the circuitry. What has a more direct effect is our EM production and emissions. They have a much more direct effect on the telluric currents. You stick that ground rod in the earth and you are connected. What you are pumping out in also pulling in from the earth. Supposed to all balance out, but it introduces resistances that effect the total flow. One interesting effect is the frequency disruption. Fifty and sixty cycle waves interacting with the Schumann resonance.

You are changing the potential values at the poles. The magnetosphere is polarizing incoming particles and waves that tend toward the poles. Setting up subcurrents energizing the ice molecules more than they would.

It is roughly like inducing an AC voltage upon a DC flow. Before the changes were dictated by cosmic forces hitting us. Now we are putting capacitors and resistors and inductors in that flow. Without a plan. Feedback to the normal flow.

Plus the heat from all of these computers.

[Lincoln]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Your book contains a lot of commands of female subjugation, that does not bode well for you.

Handed down orally for a few hundred years and then mistranslated into English.

Does she/he understand the difference between translation and interpretation?

[NightSerf]

Dave Nelson wrote:

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Check for holes in your ice trays. Try not to open the door so much, either.
There is an amount of EM waves bouncing around in that freezer. Freezers aren't that cold. It is colder in many parts of the world, yet the glaciers don't seem to shrink too much.
OOPS!!!!
I forgot!! They are! Global warming. The scientists say so. Must be because we don't use them often enough. The glaciers, that is.
Everybody!! Go to the Arctic and fix a drink! Save the planet.
:-)

Really, I'm not making this up--it was mentioned way back in high school chemistry class when we discussed vapor pressure. That was almost 50 years ago, so the phenomenon has been known for quite a while. Here's a little confirmation:

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/conten...

I don't know for sure, but I would think glaciers evaporate as well, just not as fast as new mass is added by each year's snow. Global warming may be changing the rates of both factors, but not the phenomenon itself.

[Dave Nelson]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_c...

You've read me referring to the Peltier-Seebeck effect. Also called the thermoelectric effect.

Telluric currents are the electrical and magnetic currents the earth has running through it to transfer energy. The earth is a battery, actuallly a spherical capacitor that gets recharged by cosmic energies.

Those thermoelectric coolers can drop the temp by 20 degrees C. Read the uses section of that article.

Change the current flow of the earth and you change the temperature of the poles of the flow.

[NightSerf]

Aura Mytha wrote:

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A freezer running and seldom opened , would take keep ice indefinitely, presuming it ran that long.

Actually, evaporation from the ice trays is probably one of the sources of the frost that accumulates in a freezer that is not designed to be frost-free. I'm not sure, but I suspect that frost-free freezers work by circulating dry air in the compartment, which would increase the rate at which the ice evaporates. Ever notice that foods kept in air-tight containers accumulate frost? That comes from water that evaporates from the food and then refreezes.