Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oops. I know, I typed an L instead of a N...
... and a G instead if an M... Sorry, it won't wash. You obviously had the two words confused. Why not just admit it? Folks will overlook mistakes more easily than they will dishonesty.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, I know.
But don't you suppose that sometimes the "verification" is wrong? Maybe it's bought. Maybe it's forced through intimidation.
No, independent verification means that other scientists are able to duplicate the original results each and every time that they undertake the same process. It's not just others saying, "Oh, yeah, that's right." Maybe you're thinking of peer review, where a group of scientists in the same field look over one scientist's work for errors in the process before publication or its results. Peer review is usually rigorous--scientists are notoriously competitive with others in their specialties--but not perfect.

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Most all of the scientists in all the Earth sciences in every industrialized country and every religion in the entire world for the past 150+ years. That would be one unbelievable conspiracy ... Or just your paranoia.
"one unbelievable conspiracy" ?

Why is there one fact of science?

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... and a G instead if an M... Sorry, it won't wash. You obviously had the two words confused. Why not just admit it? Folks will overlook mistakes more easily than they will dishonesty.
Hey, when I make mistakes I admit it.

I know the difference.

I misspelled.

Toguh shit.

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NightSerf wrote:
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No, independent verification means that other scientists are able to duplicate the original results each and every time that they undertake the same process. It's not just others saying, "Oh, yeah, that's right." Maybe you're thinking of peer review, where a group of scientists in the same field look over one scientist's work for errors in the process before publication or its results. Peer review is usually rigorous--scientists are notoriously competitive with others in their specialties--but not perfect.
I'm not suggesting it happens a lot - or even often, but I'm sure it does happen.

Think about it.

There's a book called Merchants of Doubt, which spells out ways that scientists work together to achieve a goal for their own interests and the interests of politicians. That interest is money.

"small numbers of people can have large, negative impacts, especially if they are organised, determined and have access to power".

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Very good. Then anyone that thinks ToE is fact is ignorant.
"Life on Earth originated and then evolved from a universal common ancestor approximately 3.8 billion years ago."
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
There are no facts to support that claim.....
False. There are a great many facts to support that claim, ranging from paleontology, to genetics, to comparative anatomy ,geology, and mineralogy.

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Jan 10, 2013
 
Geology shows that fossils are of different ages. Paleontology shows a fossil sequence, the list of species representing changes through time. Taxonomy and DNA shows biological relationships among species. Evolution is the explanation that threads it all together.

Creationism is the practice of squeezing one’s eyes shut and wailing “Does not!"

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I'm not suggesting it happens a lot - or even often, but I'm sure it does happen.
Think about it.
There's a book called Merchants of Doubt, which spells out ways that scientists work together to achieve a goal for their own interests and the interests of politicians. That interest is money.
"small numbers of people can have large, negative impacts, especially if they are organised, determined and have access to power".
And exactly what would 150 years of cover ups and hush money falsified evidence etc. to advance the ToE hope to attain from such a conspiracy??

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polymath257 wrote:
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False. There are a great many facts to support that claim, ranging from paleontology, to genetics, to comparative anatomy ,geology, and mineralogy.
Suppositions. That's all you have.

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And exactly what would 150 years of cover ups and hush money falsified evidence etc. to advance the ToE hope to attain from such a conspiracy??
Accumulation if wealth.

But it's not only limited to aspects of ToE, but all aspects of science.

Science can be perfect, it's the humans that f_ck it up.

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Geology shows that fossils are of different ages. Paleontology shows a fossil sequence, the list of species representing changes through time. Taxonomy and DNA shows biological relationships among species. Evolution is the explanation that threads it all together.
Creationism is the practice of squeezing one’s eyes shut and wailing “Does not!"
"Skeptics" & "humanists" are in the practice of covering their eyes and screaming "DOES TO! I READ THAT ONE TIME, SOMEWHERE IN A SCIENCE MAGAZINE. IT HAS TO BE TRUE!!"

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Suppositions. That's all you have.
No we have a timeline from the most primitive beginnings of life till now. Showing us life started from bacteria and advanced ever since , to what you see now. This is not guess work , it is evidence
collected by studying the Earth geological history.
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Jan 10, 2013
 
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>I don't find miscarriage funny, so why are you laughing?
You are a twisted retard with no values.
LOL
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Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Or the irony is just too great.
Well I would not call a meter that breaks every time it's used great. Maybe you're wiring it up wrong?
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polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, it's an ongoing process of development. The advancements are slow and incremental. For most forums, the ones we have now do quite well, but when fundamentalist Christians are around, they tend to blow fuses because the irony level is just so high.
So the newer models have fuses to prevent breakage? One should not use a 16 penny nail as a fuse replacement!
Unless you want to see where the smoke is coming from.
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madscot wrote:
I see, well I just copied that from the urban dictionary. They will have up date there definition.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
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No we have a timeline from the most primitive beginnings of life till now. Showing us life started from bacteria and advanced ever since , to what you see now. This is not guess work , it is evidence
collected by studying the Earth geological history.
"Showing us life started from bacteria and advanced ever since"

As I said, suppositions.....
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I don't find miscarriage funny, so why are you laughing?
You are a twisted retard with no values.
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LOL

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"Showing us life started from bacteria and advanced ever since"
As I said, suppositions.....

Not supposed it is clear and can be shown definitively in series from the first bacteria to microbes then proto- prokaryotes evolved into prokaryotes then the split between bacteria and archaea life happened, next Photosynthesizing cyanobacteria formed stromatolites and produced enough oxygen that the atmosphere like today developed.

In what is called The Great Oxidation Event gave rise to Eukaryotic cells which made the stromatolites increase in diversity and Sexual reproduction in organisms now appear. Next Simple multicellular organisms evolve creating protozoa then a period of ice called "Snowball Earth" happened but as the Earth warmed the The Ediacaran biota appears then extinction recovers to
form the Cambrian explosion. where the first fungus and sea sponges
and corals develop, next chordates, arthropods ,echinoderms, mollusks, brachiopods, foraminifers and radiolarians, appear with the first foot prints on land. 550 mya today.

There is a steady stream in the evolution of organisms from this point on which is highly documented.
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Hedonist wrote:
Geology shows that fossils are of different ages. Paleontology shows a fossil sequence, the list of species representing changes through time. Taxonomy and DNA shows biological relationships among species. Evolution is the explanation that threads it all together.
Creationism is the practice of squeezing one’s eyes shut and wailing “Does not!"
There are different interpretations of evolution.

Intelligent Design is a Christian belief not based on science.

The US is basically a Christian nation economically and politically.

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