Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#146791 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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HA!
How do you figure?
Evolution happens, I agree. That is a proven fact, it's ToE that's bullshit.
The Theory of Evolution is based on the assumption that ALL life on Earth came from one single-celled organism.
Prove it.
All life is demonstrably related.

Any two things that are related must have a common ancestor (unless you'd care to give an example where this isn't true...).

*yawn*

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In the macro world.

#146792 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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This shows your ignorance.
You can't demand proof of God from me, He isn't a science experiment.
You can ask God to prove Himself to you, you can't ask me to do that for you.
I just did.

He said he's busy babysitting a bunch of do-nothing whiners with their silly prayers.

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In the macro world.

#146793 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Exactly. But some of your anti-theist cohorts think that a scientist MUST be an atheist.
I guess they've never heard of Isaac Newton.
Is he still around?!

Damn!

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#146795 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Exactly. But some of your anti-theist cohorts think that a scientist MUST be an atheist.
I guess they've never heard of Isaac Newton.
Isaac Newton also believed in the philosophers stone, which could turn base metals into gold.

One's contribution to science is separate from their religious beliefs. This is because science and religion are fundamentally different. Science can be tested. Religion cannot.

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#146796 Jan 2, 2013
By the way, RR - Cherubs are only associated with angels by modern Christian apologists. Cherubs were used in ancient history to signify the presence of God. Whether or not they are angels is never clarified (although they COULD be angels. They could be other things, too, though. In this case, the king of Tyre).

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#146797 Jan 2, 2013
WesTheDuck wrote:
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All life is demonstrably related.
Any two things that are related must have a common ancestor (unless you'd care to give an example where this isn't true...).
*yawn*
Yup I've heard. Humans and potatoes have common ancestry.

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#146798 Jan 2, 2013
WesTheDuck wrote:
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Isaac Newton also believed in the philosophers stone, which could turn base metals into gold.
One's contribution to science is separate from their religious beliefs. This is because science and religion are fundamentally different. Science can be tested. Religion cannot.
Well there you go.

Scientists can also be religious.

Because science & religion aren't enemies, like you want.

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#146799 Jan 2, 2013
WesTheDuck wrote:
By the way, RR - Cherubs are only associated with angels by modern Christian apologists. Cherubs were used in ancient history to signify the presence of God. Whether or not they are angels is never clarified (although they COULD be angels. They could be other things, too, though. In this case, the king of Tyre).
Google will only take you so far.....

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#146800 Jan 2, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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I just did.
He said he's busy babysitting a bunch of do-nothing whiners with their silly prayers.
It's funny how you anti-theists feel the need to reduce God to things like a "babysitter" in order to make yourself feel better about your position.
Henry

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#146801 Jan 2, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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Well said!
Christianity is based on death. It promises us eternal life in heaven, and reduces it's adherents to a bunch of forlock-tugging, self-pitying people who believe that they are "unworthy" because of their inherent sinfulness.
This philosophy completely overshadows the enjoyment of life.
What else does it do? It opresses women and denies them equality with men, it persecutes homosexuals and it terrifies little children like Curtis Lowe.
Wait a minute - there's more: It represses scientific research and promotes superstition and the worship of an imaginary god while all the time, condemning mortal man.
It's time that religion was kicked out of the public square and back where it belongs - in the minds of the ignorant and gullible.
Sorry, there is no god!

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#146802 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Well there you go.
Scientists can also be religious.
Because science & religion aren't enemies, like you want.
I've never claimed they were.

Religious beliefs, however, are not always in line with scientific truths.

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#146803 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Google will only take you so far.....
Definitions can change.

The origin of words cannot.

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#146804 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yup I've heard. Humans and potatoes have common ancestry.
They do. You didn't refute what I said, by the way.
Henry

Bad Frankenhausen, Germany

#146805 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What part of evolution are you calling fact and how does it disprove the Bible?
The Bible is full of errors, fakes, many scriptures, which were not real and so forth!
Henry

Bad Frankenhausen, Germany

#146806 Jan 2, 2013
WesTheDuck wrote:
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At this point, you're just picking and choosing what you like and saying the rest of it isn't meant to be taken literally.
Just like every denomination of Christianity (none of which can prove their interpretation is right, yet all of which claim theirs is right).
Very sorry, but there never was any such thing like god!
Henry

Bad Frankenhausen, Germany

#146807 Jan 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What part of evolution are you calling fact and how does it disprove the Bible?
The bible is not a scripture of history. It is not at different truths but mostly of many myths.

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#146808 Jan 2, 2013
Henry wrote:
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Very sorry, but there never was any such thing like god!
I know. However, many Christians consider it rude to say, "The Bible is a fairy tale." even though they do it to thousands of religions themselves.

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#146809 Jan 2, 2013
WesTheDuck wrote:
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I've never claimed they were.
Religious beliefs, however, are not always in line with scientific truths.
True. Which is why God instructed that the Bible is open for interpretation. He knew we'd grow scientifically, that's what He designed us to do.

Being made in His image is more than just about physical appearances.

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#146810 Jan 2, 2013
WesTheDuck wrote:
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They do. You didn't refute what I said, by the way.
I know. As I've said many times, evolution is a real thing. My problem with it is the assumptive & speculative nature of The Theory of Evolution. It doesn't work.

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#146811 Jan 2, 2013
Henry wrote:
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The Bible is full of errors, fakes, many scriptures, which were not real and so forth!
Never such a thing as a henry!

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