Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#142962 Dec 11, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, you mean my whole life. Well ...
Assisted with the rehab of over 100 addicts.
Worked in soup kitchens.
Donated blood and plasma for free.
Advocated for better shelters and more homes for the homeless.
Adopted stray animals.
Volunteer teacher for the developmentally disabled.
Voluntarily teaching free classes to the homeless on computer skill ranging from common use to programming.
Assist many people interested in coding careers with their class work, for free.
Helping people locate resources to help with their needs just to help them.
Then of course there's the holding the doors and such for those who need it without grumbling about it, but that's just common courtesy.
[two thumbs up, excellent]

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#142963 Dec 11, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Does it ever?
I was conversing with a Pastor(???? or so he claims) earlier. He said the poor are best served by giving the money to the church. I asked why. Wouldn't the money be better spent by giving it to the poor and leaving the church out of it? He said no. Duh. Again, I asked why. He said the church can help them turn their lives around. I said, "They need money, not salvation". He disagreed again. I got bored and left it at that for now.
Not all pastors are the same. I know of one who went to Africa as a missionary, took his pregnant wife and two daughters to live a meager subsistence in what he called a "service to God". The environment they lived in was not what you could compare to suburbs in America. I questioned him about whether he thought his work there was truly productive or beneficial in any way to his potential converts or his family. His response wasn't exactly what I expected. He said that he was doing his Christian duty to make sure the Word was heard in every nation and that everybody should have a chance to hear it. He mentioned that the main lure he used to get the natives there to attend his sermons was the offer of freebies of food and clothing. He jokingly called it "Melon day" and that his converts were "melon converts". I asked him if that wasn't a bit frustrating and how could he ever be sure that his converts were sincere if material goods were their original interest. He said that all that mattered was that they heard the "Word" and after that it was up to them, what they decided on was of no concern to him; it was their "free will" in action. He couldn't stop the handouts just because the attendees might not be sincere. Of course some of the money that was donated to his church was spent on upkeep of that building but it also went to buying all the fresh fruit and vegetables for the natives in his area. the expense had to be considerable since he was there for more than two years. He lived in places where there were no civilized amenities to speak of, no running water and the like. I know I wouldn't have wanted to be dragged around the world to live like his daughters had to, all of it just to "save souls".

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#142964 Dec 11, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Why would any go to the trouble of making a replica of a mythical vessel? We know that no such vessel could have possible been seaworthy, we know that science has shown that no such event could have possibly taken place, so why would anyone waste time and money on what amount to a children's story? Why don't they make an exact replica of Santa's workshop replete with elves and flying reindeer?
How about using that money to help the poor and sick in India. The one's that Mother the demon Theresa failed to help. She thought suffering brought people closer to God. In the end she realized how evil she was and denounced her faith.
{How about using that money to help the poor and sick in India}.

I would agree on that much of your statement. I think helping the poor and education would be a better choice.

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#142965 Dec 11, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>12Dec12/////
....and of course YOU look awfully britht hereIN, ya schidt-for-brains.
Ps:.....BobLoblah dinks dat ven it comes to you 'naNo-naNo'....there's more brains in a bottle of wadda.
....and den sum tooooooooo.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
Crazy eyes!

http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/...

Who wouldn't go a little looney being a Bride of Christ?

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#142966 Dec 11, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>12Dec12/////
....and of course YOU look awfully britht hereIN, ya schidt-for-brains.
Ps:.....BobLoblah dinks dat ven it comes to you 'naNo-naNo'....there's more brains in a bottle of wadda.
....and den sum tooooooooo.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
SMD!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#142967 Dec 11, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Expressed concern? She was like 4'5"
You can hate her all you want. I don't care. Poor people before her, poor people after her. Do you think she caused harm or was she just ineffective? Blocking aid that they didn't have before left them no better or worse in my opinion.
[author:Mother Teresa|838305]] was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction.Ē
&#8213; Christopher Hitchens

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#142968 Dec 11, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
{How about using that money to help the poor and sick in India}.
I would agree on that much of your statement. I think helping the poor and education would be a better choice.
Maybe the people in India need to put their collective brains together and come up with a scam of their own.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-200709...

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#142969 Dec 11, 2012
Thinking wrote:
They suffered. End of.
<quoted text>
Don't most of us, eventually?

Since: Sep 10

United States

#142970 Dec 11, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
[two thumbs up, excellent]
Your list, Eagle.

We await your list.

Since: Sep 10

United States

#142971 Dec 11, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
{How about using that money to help the poor and sick in India}.
I would agree on that much of your statement. I think helping the poor and education would be a better choice.
Why don't you get one?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#142972 Dec 11, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Not all pastors are the same. I know of one who went to Africa as a missionary, took his pregnant wife and two daughters to live a meager subsistence in what he called a "service to God". The environment they lived in was not what you could compare to suburbs in America. I questioned him about whether he thought his work there was truly productive or beneficial in any way to his potential converts or his family. His response wasn't exactly what I expected. He said that he was doing his Christian duty to make sure the Word was heard in every nation and that everybody should have a chance to hear it. He mentioned that the main lure he used to get the natives there to attend his sermons was the offer of freebies of food and clothing. He jokingly called it "Melon day" and that his converts were "melon converts". I asked him if that wasn't a bit frustrating and how could he ever be sure that his converts were sincere if material goods were their original interest. He said that all that mattered was that they heard the "Word" and after that it was up to them, what they decided on was of no concern to him; it was their "free will" in action. He couldn't stop the handouts just because the attendees might not be sincere. Of course some of the money that was donated to his church was spent on upkeep of that building but it also went to buying all the fresh fruit and vegetables for the natives in his area. the expense had to be considerable since he was there for more than two years. He lived in places where there were no civilized amenities to speak of, no running water and the like. I know I wouldn't have wanted to be dragged around the world to live like his daughters had to, all of it just to "save souls".
12Dec12.....

....the LIAR thou art 'naNO-naNo'.

YOU have a Soul, but its BLACKened with hatred, ya hateful, hypocritical, hAtheist and schidt-for-brains.

Ps:....and den sum toooooooo.

...Why don'tCha go and visit some Missionaries from ALL Faiths who have done and continue to do such wonderful things for the Needy.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#142973 Dec 11, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Crazy eyes!
http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/...
Who wouldn't go a little looney being a Bride of Christ?
12Dec12.....

....yer jest an envious and jealous sistaPhucka.

Ps:....and an eeejit.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#142974 Dec 11, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>SMD!
12Dec12.....

.....'sliverDamn' says dat you don't have von.

Ps:...And if you do, you may have a good head on you but its on da tip of yer 'pencilDick'. PhuckOff ya eeejit.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#142976 Dec 11, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Eagle, let's see your list.
Remember, lie and you'll go to hell.
Donated 6 gallons of blood including platelets.

The platelets required at least 2 hour per secession while they separated them.(Used for cancer patients).

Red Cross donations. Every Year.

Salvation Army donations.

Food bank donations. Every Year.

Paid for medication for a couple I didnít know,$100.00 worth.

Feed the homeless in a shelter in downtown Houston for two years.

Helped fund a private School in Russia.

Supplied all the new books and computers for the school in Russia.$ 6,000.00 donation

Paid for summer camp for 30 low income kid and then volunteered to work that camp.

Opened up my home to a couple expecting a baby. They had no money and no job. They stayed for 6 months rent free.(I wasnít related to them).

Bought gasoline for people I didnít know.

Paid for new car batteries for a family.(I wasnít related to them).

Gave $200.00 to a man who broke his leg and was unable to work. He was a independent contractor.(No insurance).

Bought new clothes & shoes for low income families.

Gave $200.00 to a family who lost their house to a fire.

Bought groceries on several occasions for low income families.

Highway clean up (volunteered).

Adopted animals from the SPCA. One I still have.

Made donations to the SPCA.

Adopted stray animals.

Made countless donations to Goodwill Industries.

Regular Donor to the United Way for over 20 years. Average donation was $1200.00 per year.

None of the above examples was to family members. Thereís a much longer list for family members.

Visited the sick in hospitals. People I didnít know or wasnít related too.

All this is a partial list.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#142977 Dec 11, 2012
I knew I was missing something. Countless Christmas toy donations for low income families for the last 35 years.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#142978 Dec 11, 2012
What toy do you want this year?
Eagle12 wrote:
I knew I was missing something. Countless Christmas toy donations for low income families for the last 35 years.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#142979 Dec 11, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Not all pastors are the same. I know of one who went to Africa as a missionary, took his pregnant wife and two daughters to live a meager subsistence in what he called a "service to God". The environment they lived in was not what you could compare to suburbs in America. I questioned him about whether he thought his work there was truly productive or beneficial in any way to his potential converts or his family. His response wasn't exactly what I expected. He said that he was doing his Christian duty to make sure the Word was heard in every nation and that everybody should have a chance to hear it. He mentioned that the main lure he used to get the natives there to attend his sermons was the offer of freebies of food and clothing. He jokingly called it "Melon day" and that his converts were "melon converts". I asked him if that wasn't a bit frustrating and how could he ever be sure that his converts were sincere if material goods were their original interest. He said that all that mattered was that they heard the "Word" and after that it was up to them, what they decided on was of no concern to him; it was their "free will" in action. He couldn't stop the handouts just because the attendees might not be sincere. Of course some of the money that was donated to his church was spent on upkeep of that building but it also went to buying all the fresh fruit and vegetables for the natives in his area. the expense had to be considerable since he was there for more than two years. He lived in places where there were no civilized amenities to speak of, no running water and the like. I know I wouldn't have wanted to be dragged around the world to live like his daughters had to, all of it just to "save souls".
Religious organizations, if they want to help the world, should hand their money over to secular organizations that know what they are doing.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#142980 Dec 11, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Do you somehow take perverse pleasure in being totally classless, or is it standard fare for that part of the country? Elegance, Sophistication, and social graces, appear to be non-existent with you.
Silly troll, elegance, sophistication & social graces are open for interpretation. YOU don't get to define them based on your little world.

Understanding, empathy & social interaction is lost on you.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#142981 Dec 11, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
We don't advertise that way.
Atheist Ad: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jan/21/a...

Religious Ad: http://ldsmediatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/20...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#142982 Dec 11, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Donated 6 gallons of blood including platelets.
The platelets required at least 2 hour per secession while they separated them.(Used for cancer patients).
Red Cross donations. Every Year.
Salvation Army donations.
Food bank donations. Every Year.
Paid for medication for a couple I didnít know,$100.00 worth.
Feed the homeless in a shelter in downtown Houston for two years.
Helped fund a private School in Russia.
Supplied all the new books and computers for the school in Russia.$ 6,000.00 donation
Paid for summer camp for 30 low income kid and then volunteered to work that camp.
Opened up my home to a couple expecting a baby. They had no money and no job. They stayed for 6 months rent free.(I wasnít related to them).
Bought gasoline for people I didnít know.
Paid for new car batteries for a family.(I wasnít related to them).
Gave $200.00 to a man who broke his leg and was unable to work. He was a independent contractor.(No insurance).
Bought new clothes & shoes for low income families.
Gave $200.00 to a family who lost their house to a fire.
Bought groceries on several occasions for low income families.
Highway clean up (volunteered).
Adopted animals from the SPCA. One I still have.
Made donations to the SPCA.
Adopted stray animals.
Made countless donations to Goodwill Industries.
Regular Donor to the United Way for over 20 years. Average donation was $1200.00 per year.
None of the above examples was to family members. Thereís a much longer list for family members.
Visited the sick in hospitals. People I didnít know or wasnít related too.
All this is a partial list.
Woah.

One time I held in a fart in an elevator....

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