Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Nov 26, 2012
 
Aerobatty wrote:
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I was an alcoholic.
I'm not any more.
No god required.
You’re are a pot head according to your own testimony.

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Nov 26, 2012
 
Eagle12 wrote:
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Only to the unbelievers. Go to McDonalds and get yourself a “Happy Meal.” It will cheer you up.
You follow a book of myths, and you eat fake food. Wow, you are just a shell.

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<quoted text>You can't believe God is Omnipotent. You're lying to yourself.
You said you believe some of the bible. So what you're saying is, God is NOT Omnipotent enough to to make sure what mankind wrote in the books of the bible is true and authentic. And God is NOT Omnipotent enough to make sure only the books included in the bible are authentic and disregard the books that are false.
You're saying God is not Omnipotent enough to accomplish those two things because you only believe SOME of the bible.
I could not care less what God you believe in. You reject the God of Christianity Jesus Christ...you're not hurting me "Clementia". Christianity is doing quite well without you. No one is putting a gun to your head to worship Jesus Christ as God.
All I'm saying is your mental position of believing some of the bible, and not all of it, is contradictory to your claim that God is Omnipotent.
If God is Omnipotent, then you must believe all of the bible, and not some. Because if you believe only some, what you're saying is God was not strong enough to make sure His creation mankind wrote what God wanted to reveal, and God is not strong enough to make sure mankind only included authentic books of the bible in the bible.
You want to have it both ways, God is Omnipotent, and you believe only some of the bible. You can't have it both ways, and you're lying to yourself.
Why? Why did I not listen to Bobby Lobby lah and liberty guy?? I'm stupid that's why, but finally I've seen the light. Sorry guys, you were right!

Yeah, Jesus (God himself) couldn't make this many christians in his time, but I guess the christian missionaries are doing a better job than Jesus himself! God wasn't that omnipotent then, but he's getting there now! Congratulations, I'm sure Jesus is proud of those people who call themselves 'christians' these days.

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Nov 26, 2012
 
Anon wrote:
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How many professionals might no longer be there if they admitted to atheism? Don't think that isn't a factor in their long term employment, especially when it comes to promotions. We haven't escaped the Dark Ages quite yet.
LOL!!!

I live in England! It's REALLY not like that here. There are more atheists here than believers!

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The first is a complete sentence.
The second, though technically incomplete, refers to the first, and the word "curable" is understood.
At least it's understood by intelligent people.
It's even understood by some not-so-intelligent people.
Like you.
Understood?
Technically you’re wrong about that and secondly you’re not qualified to be correcting anyone’s grammar. Like I said, take a grammar course at your local Jr College.

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Nov 26, 2012
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/eur...

Guess getting a DNA test may be a good idea before getting married now.

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My experience has taught me that a man who has no vices has damned few virtues.
Abraham Lincoln
My experience has taught me that a man who has vices is a dumb sh**.

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Because belief in something that is not demonstrated or based on evidence is imagination, asserting that it's real beyond your imagination is the very definition of delusion. People suffering from delusions are irrational and illogical, the delusion makes it impossible for them to see past the delusion.
Hey Kitten, you callin me mad, eh? Don't make me unleash the krazy kitty from within, lol.

But why can't there be a 'God'? Why couldn't have something created us?

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KittenKoder wrote:
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You follow a book of myths, and you eat fake food. Wow, you are just a shell.
Hey, you can do what my grandkids do, take the toy and throw every thing else in the garbage, lol.

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Because they lack the rationality to know what it is?
I was already confused, don't answer the question with a question, now i'm more confused, lol.

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The first is a complete sentence.
The second, though technically incomplete, refers to the first, and the word "curable" is understood.
At least it's understood by intelligent people.
It's even understood by some not-so-intelligent people.
Like you.
Understood?
Do you use a bong?

You don’t want to let any of that rich aroma escape. Suck it deep into the lungs for that transfer of carcinogens into the hemoglobin. Dope heads rule! Another way to say it is, sh** heads rule!

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But why do some (lagoon guy) of you atheists think all of us theists (me) are irrational?
Probably because the vast majority of religious beliefs we've heard, especially here, are highly irrational.

Like I said, it depends, for one thing, on your definition of god.

It also depends, somewhat, on your level of certainty.

IMO, being certain that there is a god is irrational. Being certain that a particular god, i.e. the Christian god, Allah, etc., exists is even more irrational.

Believing, for instance, that the deist god or Spinoza's god MIGHT exist is a perfectly reasonable, or rational, position.

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River Tam wrote:
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Is this a testimonial or are you addressing somebody in particular?
To Aerobatty, Newbee.

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My experience has taught me that a man who has vices is a dumb sh**.
Eagle12
OK, dumbshit.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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Technically you’re wrong about that and secondly you’re not qualified to be correcting anyone’s grammar. Like I said, take a grammar course at your local Jr College.
You're missing some punctuation.

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LOL!!!
I live in England! It's REALLY not like that here. There are more atheists here than believers!
Don't tell barefoot that.

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Do you use a bong?
You don’t want to let any of that rich aroma escape. Suck it deep into the lungs for that transfer of carcinogens into the hemoglobin. Dope heads rule! Another way to say it is, sh** heads rule!
Many moons ago.

Now I use a vaporizer. I bought 1/2 ounce last may and I still have a quarter of it left.

TONS of carcinogens. <rolls eyes>

I used to smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day. I suppose you don't have a problem with that, though, do you.

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Clementia wrote:
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But why do some (lagoon guy) of you atheists think all of us theists (me) are irrational?
What are you doing up at this time of night?

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<quoted text>To Aerobatty, Newbee.
I missed it.

And she's no newbie.

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Clementia wrote:
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But why do some (lagoon guy) of you atheists think all of us theists (me) are irrational?
Religious belief itself is irrational.

If you evaluated all religious claims equally, you would find that no single religion boasted a more valid supernatural claim. You'd have to pick/choose/select based on some other criteria. For most people, the most important factor in choosing belief is convenience, which also includes early childhood enculturation. When you hear about Jesus all the time, the Jesus myth is the first you would think of adopting. It would also be readily available. People who have never heard of a specific god wouldn't adopt that god belief, even if that god belief was in many ways superior to the convenient store belief being sold a few miles from their home.

We can only accept/reject beliefs that we are aware of, and many people are just so quick to accept that it doesn't matter what the beliefs are, just that they are faith based and satisfy emotional needs.

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