Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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RiversideRedneck

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Since: Jul 12

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#140543 Nov 24, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I'm amazed you can't refute anything I say.
It goes something like this......."Holy shit, I never thought of that, now what the f--k am I gonna say, I know I'll attack his sentence structure and or his spelling errors, that way I can avoid dealing with the points he just made. I know I can't argue with him, I have absolutely no ammunition.
I've shown you time & time again how you are misreading & misrepresenting scripture. You are stuck in your ways and I believe are beyond teaching.

You think you've learned all there is to learn. I can't compete with your incompetence. I can't help you.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#140544 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Or maybe..... It was just her time. She's with God rigt now. I will see her again.
Can you say the same for someone you loved?
No, and neither can you with any amount of certainly. Of course thats what you believe, but believing in something and KNOWING beyond doubt that it is true, are two different things. You can believe it all you want be you simple cannot KNOW. Knowing involves evidence, it involves factual information, you have neither. Knowing in your heart is not evidence It may be evidence for you, but that does not make it demonstrable evidence. In the end it is true only in your mind.

The people I have loved that have died, are alive in me and the others who loved them. I can conjure them up anytime I like. I don't have to resort to wishful thinking and delusions.

Science tells me that al that you are is contained in your physical brain, all your knowledge, memories, everything is stored in your physical brain. When you die, so does your brain, you will be as before you were born.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#140545 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
OK.
Put me in contact with these "millions and millions if Jews" that agree with you....
Go to www.millionsofjews.com .......or do some simple research on what your bible says.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#140546 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
That's what you call "tough questions"? It's so simple...
The first four of these commandments tell us how to love and honor God. The last six teach us how to love and respect our fellow man.
Why is that? Do you have to give instructions to you children on how to LOVE and HONOR Mom and Dad? Love and honor are earned, not commanded. So..."Here I am, I made you so you had better love and honor me or I'll kick the shit out of you." Something like that?

How about replacing all that self-centered vanity with something useful like:

1,) Thou shalt not give in to credulity and gullibility.

2.) Thou shalt not become willfully ignorant.

3.) Thou shalt not limit the rights of freedom of others in order to make them abide by your standards.

4.) Why this isn't in the 10 commanders I'll never know...Thou shalt not sacrifice the mental and emotional and physical wellbeing of a child in deference to your religion.

RiversideRedneck

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#140547 Nov 24, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>No, and neither can you with any amount of certainly. Of course thats what you believe, but believing in something and KNOWING beyond doubt that it is true, are two different things. You can believe it all you want be you simple cannot KNOW. Knowing involves evidence, it involves factual information, you have neither. Knowing in your heart is not evidence It may be evidence for you, but that does not make it demonstrable evidence. In the end it is true only in your mind.
Thanks. You just admitted that you don't KNOW if God is real or not.
Sorry if you can't understand, but she IS with God right now. I asked, God answered.
The people I have loved that have died, are alive in me and the others who loved them. I can conjure them up anytime I like. I don't have to resort to wishful thinking and delusions.
That's a noble & honorable notion. I won't berate you for it as you have done to me.(I'm not full of anger like you)
Science tells me that al that you are is contained in your physical brain, all your knowledge, memories, everything is stored in your physical brain. When you die, so does your brain, you will be as before you were born.
You fool. Science has barely tapped into our brains. What they can do. What they can't do. What we're really capable of. How our brains work. How to fix them. Etc.

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#140548 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What would've your solution? Lets drugs be legal? Let drug users, dealers and addicts out of prison? Drug use amnisty?
I'm not sure what my comprehensive solution would be, if I had the power to implement it. Such a thing requires a great amount of consideration.

I've had a lot of time to consider the war on drugs, and have found it to be a total loss. It's a failure. If you can't recognize that, what point would there be in offering you an alternative? Are you happy with how the war on drugs is being fought? Do you see it as a success?

RiversideRedneck

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#140549 Nov 24, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Go to www.millionsofjews.com .......or do some simple research on what your bible says.
OK, I went to the website. I'm stil not in contact with millions and millions of Jews.....

Don't tell me to de research on our Bible. All you're capable of doing is quoting it. You have ZERO knowledge about what it means, other than what some atheist websites tell you.

RiversideRedneck

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#140550 Nov 24, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Why is that? Do you have to give instructions to you children on how to LOVE and HONOR Mom and Dad? Love and honor are earned, not commanded. So..."Here I am, I made you so you had better love and honor me or I'll kick the shit out of you." Something like that?
Well, yes.

If you're a parent, you'd know.

How many times to you have to tell a child the same thing before they really get it? Why else do you think 1+2=3 is beaten into their heads for years of schooling?
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#140551 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Who said anything a vigilante justice? I'm talking about capital punishment.
I think the reason why crime is so much higher now than its ever been is because the penalties for breaking the law just aren't harsh enough.
I had my work truck stolen along with all my tools, cost me upwards of $30k to get back on my feet. That sumbich that stole my truck got 30 days in county & ended getting released after 2 weeks. Guess what? He was arrested a week later for.... wait for it.... GTA. Bullshit!
Them while these inmates are doing "hard time", they get free cable TV, coffee, porn, etc. they get everything in prison that we get out here, except p_ssy.
I say bring back prisons like Alcatraz. Make them criminals fear going to prison. It might help.
Well, well, we have something in common, treatment of criminals. Yes, much to soft on them I agree. Alcatraz is a good idea, But I opt for a Devils Island for the worst offenders. No guards, no TV, give them a bag of seed, a few chickens and a pig, drop them off in a helicopter, and let them tear the shit out of each other. Think how much we would save. The French had the right idea. If you don't want to live by the basic rules of society, then you forfeit the right to be a member of that society.

Since: Sep 11

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#140552 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
tee-hee.... Rehabilitation? Are you clueless? It doesn't work unless its voluntary. Nobody can be forcefully rehabilitated from drugs...
When did I say we should force anyone? I said that the option should be available, and that it is better to offer rehab and harm reduction rather than stigmatize them and throw them in prison. All that does is make an older addict.

RiversideRedneck

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#140554 Nov 24, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not sure what my comprehensive solution would be, if I had the power to implement it. Such a thing requires a great amount of consideration.
I've had a lot of time to consider the war on drugs, and have found it to be a total loss. It's a failure. If you can't recognize that, what point would there be in offering you an alternative? Are you happy with how the war on drugs is being fought? Do you see it as a success?
"a success" would imply that they're done. They're not so thats a difficult question to answer. I'd say the Allies campaign in WWII a success, I'd say the war on pneumonia is a success. I can't say about the war on drugs.

I think that if we stopped trying to eliminate drug use & distribution, there'd likely be an uprise of anarchy, which would benefit no one except the old drugs lords & the new drug lords, the gov't.

I have no problem with people partying & playing around with drugs. I say have a good time. The problem is that too many people ate weak & become addicted to very dangerous drugs. It's not like getting addicted to tobacco or gambling or video games. They can be very destructive inwardly & outwardly.

Jerry's final thought? Keep drugs off the street by any means necessary.

Since: Sep 11

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#140555 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Legalizing drugs just isn't gonna happen. Look at how much trouble y'all are having trying to legalize pot. Can you imagine a campaign to legalize meth? Not hapnin!
Yes I'm perfectly fine with SWAT doing their job. Bust in then houses, boys! Get them damn druggies off the street.
I can't believe someone actually has a problem with that.
Wow. I really hope that you never have to deal with the SWAT team breaking down your door, or one of your friends doors, accidentally or otherwise. You're sick. You think that it's ok that the swat team murders innocent people in their never ending war? You think it's ok that drug users get terrorized or killed for smoking pot? You're the one who's always all "hoo raa america," and you support such an un american thing.

RiversideRedneck

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Since: Jul 12

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#140556 Nov 24, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Well, well, we have something in common, treatment of criminals. Yes, much to soft on them I agree. Alcatraz is a good idea, But I opt for a Devils Island for the worst offenders. No guards, no TV, give them a bag of seed, a few chickens and a pig, drop them off in a helicopter, and let them tear the shit out of each other. Think how much we would save. The French had the right idea. If you don't want to live by the basic rules of society, then you forfeit the right to be a member of that society.
Damn, blacky..... I agree!

(holy crap did I just say that?)

lol
But seriously, I know that America is too soft on its criminals. I attribute that to the weak liberal agenda p_ssies.

Since: Sep 11

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#140557 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Who said anything a vigilante justice? I'm talking about capital punishment.
I think the reason why crime is so much higher now than its ever been is because the penalties for breaking the law just aren't harsh enough.
I had my work truck stolen along with all my tools, cost me upwards of $30k to get back on my feet. That sumbich that stole my truck got 30 days in county & ended getting released after 2 weeks. Guess what? He was arrested a week later for.... wait for it.... GTA. Bullshit!
Them while these inmates are doing "hard time", they get free cable TV, coffee, porn, etc. they get everything in prison that we get out here, except p_ssy.
I say bring back prisons like Alcatraz. Make them criminals fear going to prison. It might help.
Except we have higher rates of crime than countries that have outlawed capital punishment. It's barbaric to put people to death. It accomplishes nothing except sate the societal blood lust. It's predicated on archaic concepts of justice - eye for an eye, that sort of nonsense.

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#140558 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Go for it. They'll do nothing, as I haven't meth lab.
What, do you think they just go around busting doors down for no reason?
Yes. They sometimes get bad tips, or they make a mistake and bust in the wrong house. Sometimes, the home owner gets understandably confused, and he gets shot because in his half dazed state he didn't realize that the large men with the bright flaghlights and guns were police, not criminals. Oh well, right? It's all worth it to get some drugs off the street for about a week, until the supply train gets running again.

RiversideRedneck

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#140559 Nov 24, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>When did I say we should force anyone? I said that the option should be available, and that it is better to offer rehab and harm reduction rather than stigmatize them and throw them in prison. All that does is make an older addict.
Do you live in America? That option IS available. It's free to all drug users, too. They have clinics & classes & groups in & out of prisons. It's readily available to anyone that wants it. Did I mention its free?

They stereotype & stigmatize themselves. Some of them can be rehabilitated, but some are a list cause. The human brain can only take so much abuse before its shot.

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#140560 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
"a success" would imply that they're done. They're not so thats a difficult question to answer. I'd say the Allies campaign in WWII a success, I'd say the war on pneumonia is a success. I can't say about the war on drugs.
I think that if we stopped trying to eliminate drug use & distribution, there'd likely be an uprise of anarchy, which would benefit no one except the old drugs lords & the new drug lords, the gov't.
I have no problem with people partying & playing around with drugs. I say have a good time. The problem is that too many people ate weak & become addicted to very dangerous drugs. It's not like getting addicted to tobacco or gambling or video games. They can be very destructive inwardly & outwardly.
Jerry's final thought? Keep drugs off the street by any means necessary.
IMPOSSIBLE. Prohibition does not work - our rates of drug use have gone up. Countries that have decriminalized have lesser rates of drug abuse than we do.

And if we legalized drugs, the black market would disappear. Would people rather go to their doctor or the clinic for the fix, or that shady guy in the alley? Exactly. The black market would no longer be necessary if we gave a better alternative to the drug consuming market.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#140561 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, yes.
If you're a parent, you'd know.
How many times to you have to tell a child the same thing before they really get it? Why else do you think 1+2=3 is beaten into their heads for years of schooling?
Yes I'm a parent and never had to command my children to love and honor me. I treated them with love and understanding. Show them the difference between right and wrong, and most important I treated them with respect. I listened to their ideas and didn't try and put mine into their heads.I guided them when they needed guidance, and was firm with them when they veered of course. Consequently I EARNED their love and honor, I didn't have to dictate it to them as your God does in the frost 4 commandments.

I didn't have to tell my children over and over again, I explained why something was wrong or unacceptable, and they understood. 1+2=3 was never "beaten" into their heads for years of schooling, what kind of backwards school system do you have anyway?

RiversideRedneck

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#140562 Nov 24, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Wow. I really hope that you never have to deal with the SWAT team breaking down your door, or one of your friends doors, accidentally or otherwise. You're sick. You think that it's ok that the swat team murders innocent people in their never ending war? You think it's ok that drug users get terrorized or killed for smoking pot? You're the one who's always all "hoo raa america," and you support such an un american thing.
I don't fear a SWAT team breaking down my door. Why would I? They'd very quickly realize they've got the wrong house. Then I'd get a brand new front door.

I am very "hoo-raw", thanks. I don't think for a second that any SWAT team in America Indy breaks into innocent people's houses. Does it happen? Yes. But it's very uncommon.

RiversideRedneck

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#140563 Nov 24, 2012
Tide, I think you can answer this.

Why is the beer can always empty? sup wit dat?

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