Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#140508 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Cars stolen 3 times.
Carjacked.
Shit at.
Assaulted several times.
Arrested.
Robbed.
Identity theft once.
Animals assaulted.
Workplace robbed at gunpoint.
And that's just lil ole me....
Ya, Koder. Times are wonderful these days. Sooooo mich better.....
Dude, you gota change your attitude or your environment or both.

Cars stolen.........non And I'm in a big city
Carjacked------non
Shit at -------non
Assaulted -----non Unless you count my insolence in Viet-Nam
Arrested,,,,,,,,,,never
Robbed-------Never
Animals assaulted -non
Workplace robbed at gunpoint....non

No wonder you need a cosmic fairy to look after you, although he doesn't seem to like you very much, why is that? He doesn't answer your prayers, lets people you care about die, he has done jack-shit to keep you from trouble, what a worthless piece of shit you got there. Try, Satan, for a while, he can't possibly be any more useless than your God thing.

Since: Sep 11

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#140509 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Legalize all drugs? Are you out of your mind? Just legalizing pot is a problem. Driving while high causes more deaths each year than driving while drunk!
Why take the easy, stupid road? The answer is to eliminate all drugs & all drug use. Sure, sounds like an impossible task & it just might be. Especially with sympathetic idiots like you out there trying to make drugs legal.
Just wait until your robbed by some low-life meth head, then see if you still accept that drugs users, abusers & dealers should not be in jail.
And you ignored the majority of my post. Good job. You agree with the war on drugs? You think it's ok that SWAT teams bust into houses in the middle of the night and terrorize, and often kill people, sometimes even at the wrong house?

You're deluding yourself if you think drugs and drug use can be eliminated. Impossible. Mankind has been altering his consciousness since prehistory. And I guarantee you that you drink beer, hypocrite.

Why do we have to allow people to drive high if drugs are legalized? We don't allow drunk driving, why would we allow high driving?

If we legalize, the black market disappears. There goes a lot of the crime that comes with drugs. And if we legalize and revamp our rehabilitation system, we further mitigate the problems associated with drug use. If we offer harm reduction programs like needle exchanges, "clean drug" dispensaries, etc, then we even further reduce the problems associated with drug use. Diseases will be reduced, desperation and therefore drug related crime like robbery will be reduced, and if other countries are any example, overall rates of addiction will be reduced.

But yeah, let's keep funneling money into the black hole that is the war on drugs; let's continue to punish people for something that is not a crime; and let's continue to pump our police forces full of military grade hardware so that they can terrorize and kill people for something like smoking pot. Sounds like a plan.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#140510 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
ALL of that still happens today. Except nowadays it's more tolerated. Back in the day, if you kill someone, you got killed back. There was justice & order.
WTF? Yes, it still happens, but much less frequently. We will never have a utopia.

And you really want to bring back vigilante justice? Are you nuts?

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#140511 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I missed something, how was my comment condoning slavery?
Here:-
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
God allows us to do what we want to do & make our own choices in life...
In the history of slavery (which is still going on today), not everyone that could own a slave did own a slave.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#140512 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Irrelevant, I don't want and can't own a slave.
2. Irrelevant.
3. Irrelevant.
4. Irrelevant.
5. As long as she wants to stay with me.
6. Irrelevant.
Boy, wonderful starter. Why don't you try applying some real-life "immoral" instructions?
You can't fathom that the words written in Leviticus are NOT Christain law, can you?
The Levites had problems, believe it or not after they attained these rules, they got much better.
Deal with it. Don't be mad that you can't own a slave like your granddaddy did.
Yes all irrelevant just like your God, completely and utterly irrelevant.

Tell that to millions upon millions of Jews who will disagree with you and tell you in no uncertain terms that Leviticus IS the word of God as given to Moses on Mount Sani.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#140513 Nov 24, 2012
timn17 wrote:
Yeah. Segregation, lynchings, rampant homophobia, hate crimes, illiteracy, disease, religious intolerance, and worst of all, no xboxes. Sounds GREAT.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
ALL of that still happens today. Except nowadays it's more tolerated. Back in the day, if you kill someone, you got killed back. There was justice & order.
Ha ha.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140514 Nov 24, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>WTF? Do you know what an opinion is?
No, no idea....

Opinion; Noun
A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Which is exactly what Koder is posting about "this is the best time to live".

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140515 Nov 24, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Here, see if you can deal with this: Science can examine and test everything that is REAL, ever wonder why science can't examine or test your God? As far as science is concerned, your god is only something imagined. Not only science fails to support your God, you are just as likely to destroy you God because you also have no support for this God thing. You're not able to define it in the simplest of terms. You have no idea of any physical attributes it has. You have no idea of it's present location. Everything you have to support your God is imaginary, not one shred of physical evidence do you have. Yes yes, I know, God is beyond the physical, he is beyond our understand, he is beyond time and space, yes I've heard it all. If you God is beyond human understanding, beyond time and space, is NOT physical, then it is IMPOSSIBLE for you to know anything about him, other than what you Theists have conjured up in your imaginations.
I'm amazed that you can put a cognitive sentence together.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#140516 Nov 24, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The Ten Commandments define God's idea of perfection, they provide a moral code for governing our lives.
<quoted text>
Why would you think that? I guess maybe done, but there are others that refuse to own slaves, whether its legal or not. US slave history is a perfect example of that.
Gods idea of perfection? Moral code? You realize the first 4 commandments deal with your Gods misguided sense of vanity? How does your Gods self-centered and egotistical opinion of himself foster a vision of perfection and morality for us poor little sheep? Yeah, I know, tough one to answer, do your best!!!!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140517 Nov 24, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I got my information from this:
On September 30, 2010, federal prisons held 190,641 inmates. Of these, 97,472 were serving time for drug offenses, 14,830 for violent offenses, 11,264 for property offenses, and 65,873 for "public order" offenses (which include immigration and weapons violations).
But then I realized that was only counting federal prisons. So I think this would be a better assessment of "pure" drug charges.
(US Drug Prisoners) "The United States leads the world in the number of people incarcerated in federal and state correctional facilities. There are currently more than 2 million people in American prisons or jails. Approximately one-quarter of those people held in U.S. prisons or jails have been convicted of a drug offense. The United States incarcerates more people for drug offenses than any other country. With an estimated 6.8 million Americans struggling with drug abuse or dependence, the growth of the prison population continues to be driven largely by incarceration for drug offenses."
Source: Justice Policy Institute, "Substance Abuse Treatment and Public Safety," (Washington, DC: January 2008), p. 1.
http://www.justicepolicy.org/images/upload/08...
You correctly noted that many people are in jail for charges that are directly related to addicts doing something illegal to get money for drugs. This issue would be reduced if we offered rehabilitation instead of prison.
tee-hee.... Rehabilitation? Are you clueless? It doesn't work unless its voluntary. Nobody can be forcefully rehabilitated from drugs...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140518 Nov 24, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>How wrote Exodus 21:20-21 NAB?
I take back the cognitive sentence thing.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140519 Nov 24, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I thought you believes in miracles? Here was a perfect opportunity for a God given miracle, what happened, your god was busy that day. Maybe he was involved in a football games somewhere, answering the prayers of a quarterback. I know, it was her time to Go and God took her. I wonder who some people are saved through prayers, others through God given miracles, and other not saved at all? Yeah, WHO CAN KNOW THE MIND OF GOD......GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS........
Or maybe..... It was just her time. She's with God rigt now. I will see her again.

Can you say the same for someone you loved?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140520 Nov 24, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Ok. Then never accept any help from a dr. None. If you get cancer, pray.
I'm not gonna "get" cancer...

No need for a quack.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140521 Nov 24, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
I wanna hear that story. Was it a drive-by?
:-)
LMAO!

oops!

It was a Hershey splurt attack!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140522 Nov 24, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Dude, you gota change your attitude or your environment or both.
Cars stolen.........non And I'm in a big city
Carjacked------non
Shit at -------non
Assaulted -----non Unless you count my insolence in Viet-Nam
Arrested,,,,,,,,,,never
Robbed-------Never
Animals assaulted -non
Workplace robbed at gunpoint....non
No wonder you need a cosmic fairy to look after you, although he doesn't seem to like you very much, why is that? He doesn't answer your prayers, lets people you care about die, he has done jack-shit to keep you from trouble, what a worthless piece of shit you got there. Try, Satan, for a while, he can't possibly be any more useless than your God thing.
WTF is non?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140523 Nov 24, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>And you ignored the majority of my post. Good job. You agree with the war on drugs? You think it's ok that SWAT teams bust into houses in the middle of the night and terrorize, and often kill people, sometimes even at the wrong house?
You're deluding yourself if you think drugs and drug use can be eliminated. Impossible. Mankind has been altering his consciousness since prehistory. And I guarantee you that you drink beer, hypocrite.
Why do we have to allow people to drive high if drugs are legalized? We don't allow drunk driving, why would we allow high driving?
If we legalize, the black market disappears. There goes a lot of the crime that comes with drugs. And if we legalize and revamp our rehabilitation system, we further mitigate the problems associated with drug use. If we offer harm reduction programs like needle exchanges, "clean drug" dispensaries, etc, then we even further reduce the problems associated with drug use. Diseases will be reduced, desperation and therefore drug related crime like robbery will be reduced, and if other countries are any example, overall rates of addiction will be reduced.
But yeah, let's keep funneling money into the black hole that is the war on drugs; let's continue to punish people for something that is not a crime; and let's continue to pump our police forces full of military grade hardware so that they can terrorize and kill people for something like smoking pot. Sounds like a plan.
Legalizing drugs just isn't gonna happen. Look at how much trouble y'all are having trying to legalize pot. Can you imagine a campaign to legalize meth? Not hapnin!

Yes I'm perfectly fine with SWAT doing their job. Bust in then houses, boys! Get them damn druggies off the street.

I can't believe someone actually has a problem with that.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140524 Nov 24, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>WTF? Yes, it still happens, but much less frequently. We will never have a utopia.
And you really want to bring back vigilante justice? Are you nuts?
Who said anything a vigilante justice? I'm talking about capital punishment.

I think the reason why crime is so much higher now than its ever been is because the penalties for breaking the law just aren't harsh enough.

I had my work truck stolen along with all my tools, cost me upwards of $30k to get back on my feet. That sumbich that stole my truck got 30 days in county & ended getting released after 2 weeks. Guess what? He was arrested a week later for.... wait for it.... GTA. Bullshit!

Them while these inmates are doing "hard time", they get free cable TV, coffee, porn, etc. they get everything in prison that we get out here, except p_ssy.

I say bring back prisons like Alcatraz. Make them criminals fear going to prison. It might help.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140525 Nov 24, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
Here:-
<quoted text>
Ya, you already did that. I didn't condone slavery. Not in any way.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140526 Nov 24, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Yes all irrelevant just like your God, completely and utterly irrelevant.
Tell that to millions upon millions of Jews who will disagree with you and tell you in no uncertain terms that Leviticus IS the word of God as given to Moses on Mount Sani.
OK.

Put me in contact with these "millions and millions if Jews" that agree with you....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#140527 Nov 24, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Yes all irrelevant just like your God, completely and utterly irrelevant.
Tell that to millions upon millions of Jews who will disagree with you and tell you in no uncertain terms that Leviticus IS the word of God as given to Moses on Mount Sani.
Mount Sani?

um......

Sounds like title of a sanitation company.

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