Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#139452 Nov 20, 2012
Why not just see *yourself* in all, so that you try not to hurt anyone, because if you hurt them, you hurt yourself?
It's called "empathy".
It doesn't require belief in a god.
Clementia wrote:
I see God in all because I see no difference between me and them, But I only see no difference between me and them, becuase I see God in them.
I do see myself in them, I see the same God within me, within you!
Then why do you need the "God" piece? Why not simply see yourself in others? Why does that require a "God"?
Clementia wrote:
Some people like hurting themselves, so then they will hurt other people because they'll think they're hurting themselves!
And some people will believe that their god wants them to hurt others.

There will always be mentally ill people.

Does that justify belief in a god?
Thinking

Andover, UK

#139453 Nov 20, 2012
How so? Hitler was a catholic all his life and led a mainly protestant country.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I'm sure you know everything about him. You atheists stick together.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#139454 Nov 20, 2012
Atheism requires faith as much as not collecting stamps requires stamps.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yup. Now go find a stamp collecting thread & "prove" to the stamp collectors how stupid and wrong they all are.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#139455 Nov 20, 2012
I question people who I already understand because I want them to understand themselves.
Clementia wrote:
I understood myself fine before you came along and started confusing me, lol.
If you already understood yourself, how did you become confused?
Clementia wrote:
I wasn't forced into this belief
Did I say that you were?
Thinking

Andover, UK

#139456 Nov 20, 2012
If it walks like a duck...
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Hold on there! Don't confuse Muslims & fanatic Christians. They are wholly different. Nobody is forced to be Christian, nobody. It's all a personal choice.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#139457 Nov 20, 2012
No. You can't debate because you're a fuckwit.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"look at THE tsunami"?! WTF?
What famines?
What poor in general?
Be specific, I can't debate you if you speak in such generalistic terms...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#139458 Nov 20, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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OMG, so the Bible did say it, but to fit in with modern thinking you ignore it? huh? How can you pick and choose which bits to follow? Is the Bible not all true then?
Why would God not condemn keeping slaves?
The laws in Leviticus were originally written for the Levites. In fact, "Leviticus" comes from Greek which means "relating to Levites".

I'm not sure why it was decided to leve it in the bible. Maybe for historical preservation? I don't know.

But I do know that it's a historical record of Levite laws, NOT Christian laws.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#139459 Nov 20, 2012
Thinking wrote:
How so? Hitler was a catholic all his life and led a mainly protestant country.
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um.... What? He was raised by Catholic parents, but didn't stay catholic. Like a lot of the atheists here, he converted.

Since: Oct 12

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#139460 Nov 20, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
So you're saying that you think that people should "look at God scientifically", but you can't offer a way to do that?
Then how do you know that it can be done?
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Can fictional characters be looked at scientifically?
Look Mister, God is not a fictional character, science hasn't found out all the mysterious of the universe, yet.

And my belief is not a threat to anyone, I'm not the one who believes God allows you to keep slaves! Religious people like me have been given a bad name because of religious people like Redneck! stop putting us all in one category!

Sorry Redneck, but I can never agree that God would allow you to keep slaves!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#139461 Nov 20, 2012
Thinking wrote:
Atheism requires faith as much as not collecting stamps requires stamps.
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Oh. So you know that God isn't real, then....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#139462 Nov 20, 2012
Thinking wrote:
No. You can't debate because you're a fuckwit.
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Well, sha-hit man!

With THAT kind of argument.....

Since: Sep 11

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#139463 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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As far as I'm concerned, you can't be an atheist at all unless you BELIEVE there are no gods (not even one). It's not enough to not believe in God/gods, or we're going to have to call my cats atheists.
So that's what all atheists have in common: they see the universe as being deity-free. They are the opposite of theists, who think the universe includes a deity (or two, or three...).
You only think that because of how saturated our society is with religion. Religion is accepted as the default position, even though it's not, so much so that anyone who isn't religion simply *must* have a similarly strong belief, just in the opposite direction. Well, that's false. I am telling you, as an atheist, that I do not believe in a god, and I am telling you, as an atheist, that I do not believe there is no god. Am I lying to you? I am open to the possibility of god, if given enough evidence. I see no reason why a god couldn't be possible, however, given the current state of things, I consider a god, especially as described in the bible, as extremely unlikely.

Since: Oct 12

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#139464 Nov 20, 2012
Thinking wrote:
No. You can't debate because you're a fuckwit.
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But 'Thinking', should we really give all blame to God? Are we humans not responsible for the famine and disease on this earth? It's like saying let's blame the alcohol/tobacco companies for people getting fibrosis of the liver or lung cancer. Are the people themselves not to blame too??

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#139465 Nov 20, 2012
Can fictional characters be looked at scientifically?
Clementia wrote:
Look Mister, God is not a fictional character
How do you know?

Since: Sep 11

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#139466 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh. So you know that God isn't real, then....
Are you trying to be obstinate, or are you just stupid?

Since: Oct 12

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#139467 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The laws in Leviticus were originally written for the Levites. In fact, "Leviticus" comes from Greek which means "relating to Levites".
I'm not sure why it was decided to leve it in the bible. Maybe for historical preservation? I don't know.
But I do know that it's a historical record of Levite laws, NOT Christian laws.
I don't know what to believe!!

Since: Sep 11

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#139468 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yup. Now go find a stamp collecting thread & "prove" to the stamp collectors how stupid and wrong they all are.
We already covered this. Remember the vampire thing? Do stamp collectors pass legislation based on 2000 year old stamps that influences my life? Do stamp collectors bomb post offices for releasing the wrong stamps? Get it?

Since: Sep 11

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#139469 Nov 20, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are part of a system. If you are intelligent, then the system is.
Timmy, those voices in your head.....?
Another leap of logic. Our consciousness does not imply that the universe is conscious. Where do you get this stuff?
Thinking

Andover, UK

#139470 Nov 20, 2012
Hitler also embraced the occult. Again, not Atheist...
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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um.... What? He was raised by Catholic parents, but didn't stay catholic. Like a lot of the atheists here, he converted.

Since: Oct 10

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#139471 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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If you wouldn't be so fearful of the word "faith", you'd understand.
Atheists have faith in their opinion that there is no god.
Done.
Since it's not fact, it's belief, or faith...
It is a fact. I don't believe in gods.

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