Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#137211 Nov 13, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Is a gardener a cold hearted bastard? Does one do what it can to get beauty out of the seeds planted, but it is up to the strength of the seed to grow?
Without struggle and understanding the reason for it, there is no growth or creativity. You grow toward the light.
Bible God made a garden and had man till it until man decided to go wild. Bible God will collect the most desirable flowers that sprout in the wild.
Man can only plant you in the ground.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ZsT-Bdx-DekXX
But feel free to believe what you want.
That's one of the worst analogies I've ever heard. Would it not be possible for an omnipotent entity to design a world in which there is still growth and creativity without all the struggle?

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#137212 Nov 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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I believe:
Jesus Christ is God of all Gods and King of Kings.
That hate solves little and love is the opposite of hate.
Two people, of the same sex, can have friendships and love one another without engaging in perverse sexual behavior.
Because two people of the same sex are living together doesn’t mean they are having perverse sexual relationships with one another.
The bibles principles on homosexuality.
Gay Pride parades need to be replaced with STD prevention promotion and parades.
Freedom of Religion as stated by the Constitution of the United States of American.
Didn't you just acknowledge that the bible never condemns homosexuality?

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#137213 Nov 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Geologist are not unintelligent. The earth is very old, in fact millions of years old. So if one is to believe the Geologist and the biblical rendition of the six days of creation.
Then the only explanation is the six days of creation are equivalent to six steps or stages of creation.
As I previously stated Doctor.
Peter 3:8
Amplified Bible (AMP)
{Nevertheless, do not let this one fact escape you, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day}.
Note the writer is writing metaphorically in 2 PETER 3:8.
It doesn’t mean literally a thousand years as one day. The writer is speaking figuratively. Gods scale of time is not the same as mans as evidence in the scripture.
How do you know he's writing metaphorically? Isn't it possible that he is just flat out wrong?

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#137214 Nov 13, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I'm not dishonest. You wrote that standing by my microwave could affect my "epigenome." You gave me specific advice to wear a tinfoil hat.
These are your exact words, a reply to my post about the microwave interfering with my wifi:
"You ought to see what they have done to your brain.
Your epigenomes are in serious straits.
Get a tin foil hat, but make sure you have a grounded wire connected to it. You get a resonant cavity without it, which makes it even worse."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TUGI0DV...
You accusing me of lying when you quite clearly said the above is cute, Dave.
That makes you dishonest.
But it *can* affect your epigenome! Dave already explained it.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

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#137215 Nov 13, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah. Even ignoring all of his nonsensical opinions, his grammar kinda gets on my nerves, and I am not at all a grammar nazi. I don't think I've read a single error free post.
The attack on grammar is your vain and inept way to reply to ones post. The critique of ones writing is merely a side bar meant to deflect and harass the poster. All the while promoting yourself as being something superior. This is typical narcissist behavior on your part.

Because you are unskilled in countering the annotations of those of faith. Your shallow responses are just that shallow. Lacking any real substance in your answers you typically express sarcasm and cynicism.

Meaning your depth as a intellectual is just not there. At best you may have a average IQ. Nothing superior to average. This is very evident by your counter attacks and reverting to your lame effort to side track post with grammar.

This is not the Queens school of grammar. And you certainly are not the Queens most studious student.
Frankly you are just another self absorbed atheist trying to make yourself look astute.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#137216 Nov 13, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not dishonest. You wrote that standing by my microwave could affect my "epigenome." You gave me specific advice to wear a tinfoil hat.
These are your exact words, a reply to my post about the microwave interfering with my wifi:
"You ought to see what they have done to your brain.
Your epigenomes are in serious straits.
Get a tin foil hat, but make sure you have a grounded wire connected to it. You get a resonant cavity without it, which makes it even worse."
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TUGI0DV...
You accusing me of lying when you quite clearly said the above is cute, Dave.
That makes you dishonest.
That was a completely different thing. I said have someone put you in a microwave, and referred to radar beams.

You go to such lengths to twist things to imagine you are winning an argument on a stupid forum. You would surely do the same to win fame and glory with a research paper. I am sure you are marked by others to undergo a very stringent peer review. They should, anyhow.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

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#137217 Nov 13, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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If prayer works so well, why are there christian hospitals?
The following is Jesus telling the story of the good Samaritan. The good Samaritan was in today’s standards a First Responder. Turning his home into a hospital for the broken and disadvantaged.

Why do we have so many Christian Hospitals? It comes down to this,“Love your neighbor as yourself.”

Medicine and Prayer can work hand in hand.

Luke 10:25-37

26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied.“How do you read it?”

27 He answered,“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind; and,‘Love your neighbor as yourself.”

28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied.“Do this and you will live.”

29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus,“And who is my neighbor?”

30 In reply Jesus said:“A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead.

31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side.

32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.

33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him.

34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him.

35 The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper.‘Look after him,’ he said,‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied,“The one who had mercy on him.”
Jesus told him,“Go and do likewise.”

“In the beginning God Created..”

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#137218 Nov 13, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know he's writing metaphorically? Isn't it possible that he is just flat out wrong?
How do you know he’s not and isn’t it possible that you are flat out wrong?
Loren Eberly

Mansfield, OH

#137219 Nov 13, 2012
Veterans:

Veterans put their life on the line. To support President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members honoring their oath of office; Agreeing to defend every American citizen from foreign and domestic aggression.

The majority of us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully reelected Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That holds Veterans, Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To defend Conscientious Objectors that defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and Realities demands, and fund Illegal drug users and illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay property tax on state appraised value of their American Dream. Pay bank interest on purchase price of American Dream for 30 years. Pay interest on lottery winners winnings Legislators invest in school bonds, Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service. With money derived from wages (union contract), investment and independent business profit.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Veterans, Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

“In the beginning God Created..”

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#137220 Nov 13, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Didn't you just acknowledge that the bible never condemns homosexuality?
John 8:44

Amplified Bible (AMP)


44 You are of your father, the devil, and it is your will to practice the lusts and gratify the desires [which are characteristic] of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a falsehood, he speaks what is natural to him, for he is a liar [himself] and the father of lies and of all that is false.

“Ditat Deus”

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#137221 Nov 13, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>But the christian god is the right one.
Yes.

“Ditat Deus”

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#137222 Nov 13, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Let me reword this for the mentally challenged-----If anything exists in the naturalistic realm, science can prove it...if it doesn't exist in he naturalistic realm the it is NON-EXISTENT....are you feeling better now!!!
No, you're making me sick.

So you think that if science can't prove or detect or test something then it's non-existent.

Got it

You're an idiot.

“Ditat Deus”

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#137223 Nov 13, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, but really nice try. Ask any fundamentalist Christian and they'll tell you the earth is only 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs walked with humans. They even have footprints of dinosaurs and man walking next to each other. Contact Sarah Palin, she fully supports this and was almost our Vice President. Next talk to the people at the Creation Museum, they have a big exhibit showing dinos' on the Ark. EVERY Air breathing vertebrates, would include Dinosaurs. Apologists who are experts on the subject will tell you these Dinosaurs were most likely juveniles, just so you could fit them on the Ark. Hey, I'm only delivering the message, these are YOUR PEOPLE not mine, don't shoot the messenger. LOL
Hold the phone... Are you posting to me or done unnamed "Christian fundamentalist"?

“Ditat Deus”

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#137224 Nov 13, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Check your bible Fred, although it would appear as though you don't even own one. The "firmament' was placed above the earth, the firmament is were heaven is located. Every biblical description of heaven is alway UP in the heavens. You never attended Sunday school? It is thee you should have been brainwashed into knowing that heaven is UP and hell is DOWN.
Yes little one God lives in Heaven, the Devil lives in Hell, and Peter Pan lives in Never Never Land!!! Oh, and Trolls live under the bridge, although some actually live here in Topix.
Right, right, right.....

And water has a "face", huh?

Moron.

“Ditat Deus”

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#137225 Nov 13, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Since prayers are never answered it would be a worthless endeavor to find out the ratio of prayers that were answered.
Quite a bold statement. Just because YOU have never had a prayer answered does NOT suggest that "prayers are never answered", son. I have had prayers answered. Lots if people have.

“Ditat Deus”

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#137226 Nov 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Every US President from the first to President Obama believes in God.
The bible never dates the earth as 6000 years old. And the 6 days of creation are not based on mans 24hr day. The 6 days of creation are the 6 steps or stages of creation. At the time Genesis was written. There was no explanation for “Millions.” It was written so people of every age could understand.
Those six days were on Gods scale and not mans. There’re varying scales in measurement. We know the Earth and all of creation is much older than 6000 years. The New Testament even makes a reference to the time difference between man and God.
2 Peter 3:8
Amplified Bible (AMP)
{Nevertheless, do not let this one fact escape you, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day}.
Note the writer is writing metaphorically in 2 PETER 3:8.
It doesn’t mean literally a thousand years as one day. The writer is speaking figuratively.
I think a lot of folks have let that "one fact" escape them. They fervently try their best to disprove the Bible by quoting 6,000 years. They refuse to read it as it is really meant. They're a list cause...

Remember Psalm 90:4...

For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

A "watch in the night" is a 3 hour night watch, as in a security watch.

So the Bible is teaching us that God measure of time is nothing like ours.

A day to God is like a thousand years.

A thousand years to God is like a day.

A 3 hour time frame to God is like a thousand years.

...

I tally wish these morons would attempt to understand that. And that NOWHERE in the Bible does it says that creation took 6,000 years.

“Ditat Deus”

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#137227 Nov 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Doctor, Assumptions don't count.
You have no scientific evidence to support your claim.
Nor have you been to Africa to conduct a informal survey.
You probably could if you really wanted to.
It could be a informative trip providing that you didn’t cross paths with tribal clans that want your head as decor.
That would be real bad. And you couldn’t pray your way out of that predicament.
You best not go Doctor and just stick to assumptions. It’s safer that way.
Funny, my dad was missionary to Tanzania, Africa for two years. He had to have a security detachment with him to protect from thieves and raiders.

He went bringing food, medicine & various supplies to the very needy & desparate in Tanzania. They met him with violence & evil.

In the end, all they wanted was to rob each other of their free shit that we have them.

That part of Africa needs a lot of work & a lot of education. For the time being, they seem like a lost cause.

I really wish ol' black lagoon would go there & see how many real Christians there are...

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#137228 Nov 13, 2012
Thinking wrote:
You can't have me, nobgobbler.
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Hello stranger, long time no see, how’ve you been?

“Ditat Deus”

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#137229 Nov 13, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I said "ok, let's drink beer. Not Budweiser, it's crap."
:)
Where's the "unfriend" button?

“Ditat Deus”

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#137230 Nov 13, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
What would be an example of an unnatural phenomena?
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You honestly believe that criminals, who fit within your numbers 2 and 3, are examples of unnatural phenomena? Or geniuses?
Psychopaths fit into your number 5 and maybe 4.
Wow. Ok. Why do you think so?
I can see number 1 as being an example of an unnatural phenomena. Do you believe they actually happen?
Yes. I think that natural law as we know is probably infantile. We're just beginning to learn about natural law, which a suggests that we still have a lot that is unknown.

Do you think the periodic table is finished?

Do you think humans are all done evolving?

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