Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#136985 Nov 12, 2012
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-...

Fire turns into a ball in microgravity. These are in enclosed containers, within a pressure system, that is going at a speed tangential to the earth gravity to offset the gravity of the earth. It isn't perfect, but a good indication of how gravity, varying pressure in straight lines outward pushing in, can shape EM, which is what the flame balls are, or light if you wish, into visible forms.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#136986 Nov 12, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are le
Hey, I discovered something you'll find interesting: my download speed was negatively impacted by my microwave oven. I tested it repeatedly. My wireless signal was interfered with when the microwave was on. So, one EM field is interfering with the other.

See? I knew you'd like that.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#136987 Nov 12, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://science.nasa.gov/scienc e-news/science-at-nasa/2002/21 aug_flameballs/
Fire turns into a ball in microgravity. These are in enclosed containers, within a pressure system, that is going at a speed tangential to the earth gravity to offset the gravity of the earth. It isn't perfect, but a good indication of how gravity, varying pressure in straight lines outward pushing in, can shape EM, which is what the flame balls are, or light if you wish, into visible forms.
Um, that's not really surprising, stars are flame, and they like to stay in "balls."

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#136988 Nov 12, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Um, that's not really surprising, stars are flame, and they like to stay in "balls."
How much mass, and therefore gravity, do you think exists within those flame balls?

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-...

More on the flame balls.

Come back when you have a clue.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#136989 Nov 12, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Hey, I discovered something you'll find interesting: my download speed was negatively impacted by my microwave oven. I tested it repeatedly. My wireless signal was interfered with when the microwave was on. So, one EM field is interfering with the other.
See? I knew you'd like that.
You ought to see what they have done to your brain.

Your epigenomes are in serious straits.

Get a tin foil hat, but make sure you have a grounded wire connected to it. You get a resonant cavity without it, which makes it even worse.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#136990 Nov 12, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't mean it like that. I'm sure that they believe in the birth of jesus, but I'm not so sure that their christmas celebration is actually a celebration of that birth. The facade is maintained usually, but I think at this point it has pretty much devolved into a mostly secular celebration of gift giving and good food.
It has become a commercialised free for all. I saw a christmas tree (Pagan Yule tradition) in a window 1st week in October, there has since been several more. Whether these decorated trees are put up by christians or not I don’t know but they had certainly spent a lot of cash on decoration

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#136991 Nov 12, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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This is how I talk most of the time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Y3ywa-9Cu4MXX
u get the blumin idea now?
Cheerio!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#136992 Nov 12, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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From this, we can tell that you have not read the bible.
Ignorance is no laughing matter! LOL
I see you can't pose a serious question...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#136993 Nov 12, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>My original statement addressed the millions of parents who prayed in vain for their children to be saved from a horrible death by starvation. You countered with the argument that I couldn't know how many parents prayed for their young since you claimed most Africans followed traditional tribal religions. My research has proven that to not be the case. As you can see form the numbers Christians in Southern Africa do number in the many millions.
ooo lala... Blaming God for starvation, huh?

Is this the same God you claim to not believe in?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#136994 Nov 12, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>You believe the ark story? So... how old do you think the earth is?
I believe the Ark story, yes. I believe it's a lesson to learn, nothing more. I don't believe the world was literally flooded, no. If there was a flood, it was more likely to have been a localized phenomenon that seemed "worldwide" to the people of the time.

I don't know how old the earth is. I know that people smarter than me say something like 4 1/2 billion years, but who knows. Scientists change their minds more than their undies.

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Since: Jul 12

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#136995 Nov 12, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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RR doesn't. He's just explaining the story.
Thanks, doll!

aishiteru yo

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#136996 Nov 12, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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This is not the same as religious faith.
The confidence that comes from testable hypotheses that survive repeated challenges is NOT equivalent to the way that religions claim belief without supporting evidence.
In the case of oxygen in my next breath, I am quite aware of the possibilities that could mean I *won't* have oxygen: oxygen deprivation is a distinct possibility when dealing with liquid helium, for example. Or if there is a fire, it is quite possible that the oxygen concentration will be low and/or the carbon monoxide level will be high. So no, I do NOT have *absolute* confidence of my next breath. I have confidence that comes Fromm repeated experiences, testable hypotheses that have survived multiple challenges, and knowledge of how things can go wrong.
Religious faith, on the other hand, is a very different beast: it requires belief without evidence, confidence without testing, and an ego large enough to believe you have the important truths in spite of ignorance.
Then teach you boy there the difference between faith & religious faith.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#136997 Nov 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I see you can't pose a serious question...
The only question that I have about religion is: Why do intelligent modern people still believe in silly old myths?
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#136998 Nov 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't believe the world was literally flooded, no.
The flood like the rest of genesis is pure mythology. This is proof that the Bible is the word of man and not the word of any god. It is likely copied from the babylonian story the epic of gilgamesh.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#136999 Nov 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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ooo lala... Blaming God for starvation, huh?
Is this the same God you claim to not believe in?
No it's the one YOU believe in, the one who came down out of fairyland and touched you on the head. The one whom you claim answers prayers. The one who OBVIOUSLY doesn't care for little starving children, he hates amputees also.

Pay attention numbnuts, I never blamed God for starvation, I blamed him/she/it for NOT answering the prayers of millions of grieving parents. Do try and pay attention. It will be reflected in your final grade!!!

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#137000 Nov 12, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are leaving out a few things in your perception there.
You are using very general terms such as cooled energy and pools of mass. I have said the same things, but in different ways and in more detail.
Your cooling energy is predicated on superheat at the beginning. What caused the heat? Why is heat generated? Because of resistance to a flow of energy. That is the only way it is produced. The release of heat from an atom being split is because of that release of bound energy encountering resistance in it's immediate environment. Actually, heat is misunderstood.
Those pools of mass have to have something for them to attract each other. The inside out appearance is because they are less dense bubbles of space trying to be pushed together. Even a field of energy such as electrostatic displaces some of the space. There is a motion between those particles that causes that. Inject bubbles into a closed container of a liquid. They gather together. That is gravity. In this gravity field they will rise to the top before combining. If there was no gravity field they would be collected in the center of mass of the liquid. Space is a mass with energy, in the form of motion of streams of that mass, injected. Our material world is a foam within that mass.
They can discuss all they want.
What are you making statements of my perception for (again), you know nothing about my perception all you know is what you assume

General or not that is what is assumed to have happened to create matter in this universe.

If people knew how the “superheat” was produced then guess what, they would know how the superheat was produced and all the discussion would be worthless, perhaps you need to contact the relevant people and tell them you know. I’m sure it would come as a great surprise to the cosmologists out there who have been trying to understand the causes for some considerable time.

Misunderstood?– Heat is any temperature above absolute zero –
The scientific definition is - "Heat is the process of energy transfer from one body or system due to thermal contact, which in turn is defined as an energy transfer to a body in any other way than due to work performed on the body."

Some notes on heat – it can be induced by work/friction. Under natural circumstance heat can only travel from the hotter object to the cooler, never the other way round. What’s to misunderstand?

The pools themselves attract – they did not push, they pulled - gravity.

You appear to be confusing gravity with buoyancy

You mean that you do not comprehend anything greater than 3 dimensions – fine…Methinks that if you want to include quantum theory into your EM ideas you need to consider additional dimensions – just sayin’

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#137001 Nov 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Then teach you boy there the difference between faith & religious faith.
Is there? Please explain

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#137002 Nov 12, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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How much mass, and therefore gravity, do you think exists within those flame balls?
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-...
More on the flame balls.
Come back when you have a clue.
Okay.

<looks at list> Magnets, string, paper clips, iron bar, rocks, box-of-wine, thingies, hot tub, ping pong balls, bowling balls.....*adds* f-i-r-e — b-a-l-l-s

I think that's all...

Thanks, Dave.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#137003 Nov 12, 2012
To me a non-religious faith, could be belief in aliens, psychics, conspiracies, political ideas, new age woo and superstition, i.e. any beliefs based not on evidence. I think this is as much of an issue with some as the problem of old age religions.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#137004 Nov 12, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You ought to see what they have done to your brain.
Your epigenomes are in serious straits.
Get a tin foil hat, but make sure you have a grounded wire connected to it. You get a resonant cavity without it, which makes it even worse.
EM doesn't do anything to epigenetics.

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