Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#133872 Oct 29, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Assholism
hahaha!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#133873 Oct 29, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>And no evidence has been presented that homosexual orientation is a "disorder".

The burden of proof is on the person claiming that homosexual orientation (there is no evidence that it's a "choice") is a "disorder".

Got any such evidence?

No, I didn't think so.
Judge monitors is a hypocritical moron.

Nothing will penetrate that thick skull of his.

He just needs to spew hatred for gays because he gets a stiffy whenever he sees a good looking guy.

Probably never showered after gym class, either.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#133874 Oct 29, 2012
Judge Moniters wrote:
BY the way, that was in the DSM-IV, page 678 I believe.
Page 678 is about medication-induced movement disorders.

Care to try again?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#133875 Oct 29, 2012
Judge Moniters wrote:
Zen Master Doc wrote:
and the DSM records that 75% of GID children grow up to be homosexual.
It was the DSM-IV, page 678, I believe.
Nope.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#133876 Oct 29, 2012
The claim at issue isn't merely that the ratio of straights to gays is 20 to 1, but that the ratio "is somehow relevant to the percentage of pedophiles who prey upon male victims."
<quoted text>
What study?
Judge Moniters wrote:
Try to read properly, the 20 to 1 ratio came from a study and it was presented at least three times.
Try to read properly, the 20 to 1 ratio of straights to gays isn't the issue.

Now, demonstrate how the 20 to 1 ratio of straights to gays (adults attracted to other adults) is relevant to the sexual preferences of pedophiles. That's the claim that I am challenging, and for which you have produced no evidence.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#133877 Oct 29, 2012
Judge Moniters wrote:
By pure definition it is a mental disorder. You can't even get a gay to admit that it is mental.
Sexual orientation is mental.

What you have failed to demonstrate is that it is a "disorder".

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#133878 Oct 29, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Chimpanzees and bonobos both do oral sex (and everything else, barring S&M). Macaques females do mounted genital rubbing - so do birds, actually.
Once again, you've expressed gross ignorance.
I posted a link about bonobos yesterday. They don't do anal.

As far as the oral goes, what they do with each other is not necessarily what they would do with you.

The issue was human sex with animals.

Do you think Timmy would stick his thingy in a dog's mouth and have a good time?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#133879 Oct 29, 2012
Nope, the burden of proof is on the person claiming that homosexuality is a disorder.
<quoted text>
What evidence was that? Identify that evidence.
Judge Moniters wrote:
That was the point, the APA never had evidence.
The point is that *you* have failed to produce any evidence that homosexuality is a disorder. You're not somehow excused by errors that the APA made in the past.
Judge Moniters wrote:
Also, what evidence do you have that conversion therapy is harmful.
I didn't claim that it was "harmful". I pointed out that there is no evidence presented that it is *effective*. Unless you present evidence that it is effective, then it is snake oil, and has no business being pushed.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#133880 Oct 29, 2012
Clementia wrote:
transexual - homo and bi people who have sex change
No, a transsexual is someone who does not identify with their assigned sex.

They can be straight, gay, or bi.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#133881 Oct 29, 2012
Judge Moniters wrote:
ALL PEOPLE are born heterogamous and thus heterosexual
What is your evidence that everyone is born heterosexual (sexually attracted to those of the opposite sex)?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#133882 Oct 29, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>Evidence?

Judge Moniters wrote, "You know the APA who supports pedophilia and claims that it is not a mental illness."

Evidence?
Evidence is the enemy of the fundy Christian.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#133883 Oct 29, 2012
Judge Moniters wrote:
Homosexuality is indeed considered a mental disorder.
By whom, exactly, other than by those who profit by selling "reparative therapy" or by those with a particular religious agenda?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#133884 Oct 29, 2012
The rapid expansion is part of the Big Bang theory. So I don't know what you are referring to as "doubtful".
ChristineM wrote:
The big bang was the explosion postulated from the hubble diagram It is now seen more as a rapid and accelerating expansion from the outset. However the name is still used to keep consistency
You still haven't said what you consider to be "doubtful".

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#133885 Oct 29, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
Hey! That's MY line.
Sorry. Can I use it?

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#133886 Oct 29, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry. Can I use it?
What?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#133887 Oct 29, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I posted a link about bonobos yesterday. They don't do anal.
As far as the oral goes, what they do with each other is not necessarily what they would do with you.
The issue was human sex with animals.
Do you think Timmy would stick his thingy in a dog's mouth and have a good time?
I've read, in news pieces, conflicting reports of anal sex among bonobos - but the science books report they do.

http://books.google.co.jp/books...

This one describes anal between two male gorillas (pp. 78):

http://soar.wichita.edu/dspace/bitstream/hand...

And it's been documented in rhesus macaques.

This would be the authoritative book on the subject:

http://books.google.co.jp/books...

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The only primate that would willingly have sex with humans is the orangutan. They will rape human females, if given the chance. I have personally seen one masturbate to a bunch of blondes - this one liked blond girls. I've also seen one spend a lot of time inviting one of my students to join his harem. That was kind of funny, and she was lucky to be on the human side of that fence. If she was on the other, the male might have used force.

I don't know why they find humans attractive. It's been noted in neuroscience journals that other apes find humans attractive - their conjecture was that it was our hairlessness, that it matched the relative hairlessness of babies. But it was just conjecture.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#133888 Oct 29, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
No, a transsexual is someone who does not identify with their assigned sex.
They can be straight, gay, or bi.
How can you justify a transsexual as being "straight" ?
That's a contradiction , they could be heterosexual but straight?
I don't think so..........

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#133889 Oct 29, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
The issue was human sex with animals.
Do you think Timmy would stick his thingy in a dog's mouth and have a good time?
Do you think about that...often?

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#133890 Oct 29, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
The rapid expansion is part of the Big Bang theory. So I don't know what you are referring to as "doubtful".
<quoted text>
You still haven't said what you consider to be "doubtful".
The big bang

It is not certain if it was an explosion as understood by the term bang or an expansion

Scientist (certainly cosmologists) are more and more referring to the start of the universe as the event rather than the big bang

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#133891 Oct 29, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
From everything I've read, Dave repels women.
Not since he changed his cologne to chloroform. Now, the girls fall for him, usually in the back of his van.

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