Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#128565 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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It is true that people (free people) can do what they want however that does not excuse them from the responsibility of considering what there actions would do to others.
OK so now we know you are deliberately ignorant. Well done.
You really do not know much about people do you? Tell me how was the current US hatred of the Muslim (not the terrorist but the Muslim) incited?
Thank you for stereotyping a whole country. You are right ALL of the US hates Muslims.
Violent people will be violent they do not need an excuse. They may use an excuse, such as a stupid movie, but it is not needed. Such as the druken lout that beats his wife. He beats whether he is drunk or not over the tiniest infraction. Is it her fault for not bringing him the beer fast enough?
And again how does someone incite rape upon themselves?

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#128566 Oct 9, 2012
The opportunity has little to nothing to do with how the woman is dressed.

In my old psychology classes we read case study after study and interviews with rapists in prison. A dumpy looking grandma dressed in several layers of clothes is just as likely to be targeted as a skimpily dressed college chick. They usually use a knife or gun and often the more dressed and conservative she looks the bigger the thrill. For them it's more about the attack the exercising control over someone than having sex with a hottie.

I love the old Penn And Teller where they ask, when is the last time you heard about a woman at a nudist resort getting raped?:)
Double Fine wrote:
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Key word: Opportunity.
We do not want to give the baddies *opportunity*.
I don't want my girlfriend, sister or mother excercising their rights to walk around on the city streets at night. Even though they have that liberty, it gives other the incentive.
Just because we have a right to go and offend people, does not mean that we should.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#128567 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Ask TBS, it seems to be what he goes looking for. I think that when you get older you too could be on the prowl and have a girl give you the come on before realising what you were like and then backing out.
No it is not, it is still a matter of responsibility but of course we assume the filmmaker was not drunk. Lets try and make it easier for you, if you make a decision to go to the toilet who is responsible for wiping your butt and flushing?
Ahh I don’t really think you wanted to go there you mean the christians right? James Holmes, Anders Behring Breivik, Radovan Karadzic, Ratko Mladic, how about the NLFT in india. Good christians all and the KKK and anti abortionists in the US. You do not accept that the IRA were mass murdering terrorists for the name of their church? Honey I have been a victim of christain (IRA) bombing so don’t try and butter it up with lies. Luckily in the case of that bombing no one was killed. The same cannot be said for the christian bombing of Warrington and so many other atrocities. Coincidentally the IRA atrocities were financed from US donations.
Where did I say deserved? I said responsible and I will continue to argue responsible.
Did they do these things because of a movie? Or were there other motivations?

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Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#128568 Oct 9, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
The opportunity has little to nothing to do with how the woman is dressed.
In my old psychology classes we read case study after study and interviews with rapists in prison. A dumpy looking grandma dressed in several layers of clothes is just as likely to be targeted as a skimpily dressed college chick. They usually use a knife or gun and often the more dressed and conservative she looks the bigger the thrill. For them it's more about the attack the exercising control over someone than having sex with a hottie.
I love the old Penn And Teller where they ask, when is the last time you heard about a woman at a nudist resort getting raped?:)
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I agree completely.. weird.

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Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#128569 Oct 9, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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When you are ready to talk about groups and not individuals, let me know. And when you find the perfect group of people, let me know.
Right so those atrocities don’t count because they were individuals or is it because you have no argument? So predictable how you want to blame groups and not individuals and how you are not willing to accept facts because you have no argument against them.

The Israeli soldier that shot that Brit in the head, was he on his own or in a group of soldiers? Consider that he was part of a patrol manning an armed checkpoint.

Did the driver of that bulldozer act on his own or was he part of a group of bulldozer drivers directed by the military? Consider that no Israeli would go into a Palestinian enclave without military backing.

Was the pilot who killed 18 civilians at a wedding an Afghanistan not part of the group known as the US air force?

Was that soldier who killed 16 women and children not part of that group known as Navy Seals?

Or is it that you don’t consider the military to be a group?

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Since: May 08

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#128570 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree but LT and TBS brought up the subject of female dress as an incitement to rape.
Not true.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
I was just responding to it being used in another comment. I did not bring it up.
I believe that it was you that satated that it is possible for a woman to incite rape upon herself..
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

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Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#128571 Oct 9, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Did they do these things because of a movie? Or were there other motivations?
I am not arguing what the motivation was, I am arguing responsibility.

Tell me was a stuck valve responsible for the melt down at three mile island?

Responsibility and consequences

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

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#128572 Oct 9, 2012
I suppose that we can blame the makers of the Batman movie for this nutjob..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21811...

Since: Jun 12

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#128573 Oct 9, 2012
scaritual wrote:
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<quoted text> It's the opinion, backed by reference from wikipedia, that I've supplied numerous times. Work done by archaeologists and experts in the field. You should supply the other opinions that refute or offer alternative explanations then, shouldn't you?
So far, all you really do is say - "NUH UH!".
This article gives an example of the ancients who wrote of the Exodus in which ''modern scholarship'' states were all wrong because the Exodus never happened.

http://bibleandscience.com/archaeology/exodus...

Modern scholarship knows better? LULZ

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#128574 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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What makes you say that?
hahaha!

'cause you said female bodies were nicer :p

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

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#128575 Oct 9, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Now wait a minute! Your actions helped caused an unstable mind, to think that it was alright to have sex with you; and you don't think you should take any responsibility for that!?!?!? WTF?!?!?
Therefore you should expect whatever comes you way without complaint!!!
Yeah, you have double standards, alright!
What? Are you saying that if a woman wears provocative clothing, it's partially her fault that she was raped?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

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#128576 Oct 9, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Mostly agree is good enough for me.
There was humor in my post...

sad face :(

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

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#128577 Oct 9, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>No, not trolling. People should not have to walk around on egg shells for anyone, ever. People should be able to wear a shirt or say what they want or make a movie with out worry of getting murdered over it. The expectation of getting killed over an opinion should not be an expectation, ever, for anyone, not just Americans.
<quoted text>At least you noticed that much.
<quoted text>Hatred can not be encited unless those that hate allow it to be. Why should the world coddle those with thin skins?
Totally!

I'm going to put posters of Allah hanging out with Zeus up, with the caption "we're both equally real, jerks. Now grab a beer and chill out."

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

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#128578 Oct 9, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Key word: Opportunity.
We do not want to give the baddies *opportunity*.
I don't want my girlfriend, sister or mother excercising their rights to walk around on the city streets at night. Even though they have that liberty, it gives other the incentive.
Just because we have a right to go and offend people, does not mean that we should.
It's ok. I carry a gun.

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Since: May 08

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#128579 Oct 9, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
There was humor in my post...
sad face :(
Mine too. So cheer up, yo.

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Since: Mar 11

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#128580 Oct 9, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Mine too. So cheer up, yo.
Not until I get my rum!

Where's my rum?!?

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#128581 Oct 9, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I very much agree with, with rights comes responsibilities! The problem is; where do you draw the line.
The idiot church that wanted to burn the qur'an; he went too far, in my book. He did that strictly to incite the mussies. He is one of those idiots who does not understand that he follows the same god as the mussies.
The South Park writers, the cartoonist, author, and this filmmaker, in my opinion, are not trying to incite anyone.
As far as Christine, she seems to have a strong bias for the mussies. Seems that they can do little wrong in her book and if they do, it is someone else's fault.
Here we go again, deliberately misunderstanding the concept of responsibility. I have said repeatedly that the murderers are responsible for murder. What makes this a strong bias? I have argued that a person is responsible for his actions. Freedom of speech does not diminish that responsibility, in fact my view that responsibility is more important.

The typical Muslim just as the typical christian just at the typical Jew, Hindu and atheist just want to get on with there lives, lives that they personally are responsible for. No god crutch, no excuses.

I do however make a distinction between decent people and terrorist.

Between people and murderers.

Between people and hate merchants

Between Christians and fundamentalists

Between Muslims and radicals

Between people and terrorist.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#128582 Oct 9, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for stereotyping a whole country. You are right ALL of the US hates Muslims.
Violent people will be violent they do not need an excuse. They may use an excuse, such as a stupid movie, but it is not needed. Such as the druken lout that beats his wife. He beats whether he is drunk or not over the tiniest infraction. Is it her fault for not bringing him the beer fast enough?
And again how does someone incite rape upon themselves?
Now where did I say ALL? Oh I see lying again, well done.

From what I have seen most of the population (not all by any means) but certainly the majority dislike Muslims. GWBush saw to that in his frustration at not being able to get to those responsible for 9/11 he chose to discredit a religion with the government backing him up.

You may call it a stupid movie, I call it I a deliberate exercise in inciting hatred. Neither is the point, the point is that people are responsible for their actions

Please read my previous reply to inciting rape reply because I am not repeating just for your sexual excitement

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Since: May 08

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#128583 Oct 9, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Not until I get my rum!
Where's my rum?!?
yer rum is in me bum.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#128584 Oct 9, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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What? Are you saying that if a woman wears provocative clothing, it's partially her fault that she was raped?
Interesting point. A father at work had this to say about young females in provocative dress at public functions. It attracts attention from everyone. Even the attention they do not want. The psychos, for example. In large crowds they are there. Every psycho in the crowd loves the way they dress.

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