Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#128528 Oct 9, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
Gate Keeper is a troll. Same poster as Sir Doc 1-1000, Martina Naratilova and various other takes on Happy Lesbo.
He's a miserable wretch who hates life so much, he comes on here to share his misery. His deep and abiding concerns are about how pedophilia shaped his life - I keep telling him, it wasn't his fault.
Sad, sad person.
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>That's a relief.
bwahahahahahah!!! OHMYGOD, I'm laughing soooooooooooo hard! hahhaha

How, Tim, how is that a relief?!? hahahaha, the poor man! His tortured soul! It's a relief that he was the victim of incestuous pedophilia?!?

Good god, Tim, you have seriously twisted morals.

hahahahhahaha! and I can't stop laughing with you!

This clip from 1:22 to 1:39 reminds me of you!

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#128529 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Screw you DF if you do not like the message, if you do not like the movie.....leave.
And keep your GD hands to yourself, after all it was just a movie.
Now what you are demanding is that I change, when I have placed no demands on you. I only expressed myself how I felt. I am free to do this and have not hurt anyone.
And the response was murder.
Sorry I will murder all of you to be free
to express myself as I wish.
Anything less is not freedom and a demand you have placed on me.
When I start making demands on you , you will understand.
But the only demand I've placed on you is , I've the right to express yourself if you do not like my expression , you have the right to walk away. Or express yourself in rebuttal. much like dis...
Methinks I see meltdown simmering

And threats

How wonderful

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#128530 Oct 9, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point.
Hey, just so you know, South Park is my favourite show. And as you know, they insult EVERYBODY - Actors, scientists, Blue collar workers, white collar fat cats, whites, blacks, latinos, jews, gays, christians, scientologists, atheists.... And Tom Cruise.
I absolutely love the show - freedom of speech, right?
I like it, too!

You shiny piece of ****!

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#128531 Oct 9, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>White ghost? Lol never heard that one.
We Asians don't tell you our secret language, gweilo.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#128532 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course I am not saying that wearing provocative clothing make you guilty of being raped, that is a stupid comment and highlights your willingness to cherry pick my posts, a typical fundy ploy that I though your usual intelligence put you several levels above. Or should I assume that you simply did not see my wording which I will re-quote - That does not excuse murder no matter what the provocation.
The girl who wore the clothing was responsible for wearing that clothing, no more, no less, after all it was her who dressed, not the rapist. The rapist commits the rape and is responsible for his actions. In the same way that the filmmaker is responsible for making the film and the murderers are responsible for murder.
Just because there were murderers out there who objected to his film does not release him from the responsibility of making the film. That’s the thing about freedom of expression, it gives you the freedom to consider consequences. It is my opinion that the consequences were considered. Let is recount, the guy is a coptic christian and known Muslim antagonist. Only after making the film was it dubbed to be deliberately offensive – notice that after? He knew that he could not ask the actress to utter such offence, it had to be dubbed afterward. What was he scared of? Could it have been something along the lines of refusal to incite hatred, which just happens to be a criminal offence in most countries in the world.
A person is responsible for his own actions, whether they or others want to excuse that responsibility based on subsequent events is mute, hindsight is a wonderful thing, it’s just a pity we don’t have foresight.
If all the guy is responible for is making a movie then what is the point of pointing it out? Is there a consequence that you think he should pay for making the movie? If so then what is the consequence of a girl dressing provacatively? If the girl that got raped for dressing provacatively is the victim the what would that make the film maker ?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#128533 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
I have to admit that a naked female body is considerably more attractive to look at than a naked male body.
But in a darkened room who is considering aesthetics?
You just haven't slept with Double Fine yet.

<sigh...>

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#128534 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
No you moron, invisible foreigners
Lean to read
Thank you, Christine! Riverside doesn't pay super close attention to detail...and, detail is all that matters!

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#128535 Oct 9, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Another double standard. Once again if a Christian responds emotionally to being called uneducated, liar, bigot, etc..
they get berated non-stop. I say equal treatment across the board. I Christians are retard for following a zombie god , then the Jews are retarded for following an even more outdated vengeful asshole of a god, and the Muslims are F@cken braindead for killing people over a criticism of a prophet let alone their camel riding desert dwelling murderous allah. We can't forget about the Wiccans which are just fairy loven nudist tree F@cken hippies or the Atheists and their nihilistic belief system and egocentric condescending attitudes.
I totally agree with you!!!

Right up until "atheists." I mean...gosh, aren't we the only ones who deeply understand the universe?!? We found the one true absence of god!

:)

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#128536 Oct 9, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
"A 2009 poll by Pew Research Center found that "Nearly all scientists (97%) say humans and other living things have evolved over time – 87% say evolution is due to natural processes, such as natural selection. The dominant position among scientists – that living things have evolved due to natural processes – is shared by only about third (32%) of the public."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_ev...
Yes. Because the public are uninformed of the facts and the merits of the theory
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
There are scientists that don't support (believe in) evolution.
Define 'scientist'.

If by 'scientist' you mean a scholar who studied and graduated from an accredited university, in a field of any natural science (physics, biology, geology, geography, chemistry), then the percentage is very, very low.

If by 'scientist' you mean some guy on the TV saying he knows sciency stuff, like Kent Hovind, then the percentage is higher.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand 5 & 6, but how is a theory about a million year old 'believed' species "testable"?
Easy.

According to the TOE, Dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago.

Now here is my prediction - do any radiometric test on any new dinosaur finding, and you find that fossil older than 65 million years.

Or, since the TOE says that birds all are offspring of a dinosaur call Archaeopteryx around 135 million years ago, I can make a prediction that you will NEVER find a bird fossil dated at 200 million years.

Another prediction - you will never find remains of a modern mammal (lion, zebra, human, elephant, horse etc) lying in the same layer as that of a T-Rex.

I gave you three or four. The TOE makes MILLIONS of such predictions.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#128537 Oct 9, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point.
Hey, just so you know, South Park is my favourite show. And as you know, they insult EVERYBODY - Actors, scientists, Blue collar workers, white collar fat cats, whites, blacks, latinos, jews, gays, christians, scientologists, atheists.... And Tom Cruise.
I absolutely love the show - freedom of speech, right?
I howled with laughter when I saw Dawkins banging a guy on the show.

But when I saw Indiana Jones getting raped I thought it was the drugs - "this can't really be happening" but it was! Just like Indiana 4 happened...

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#128538 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Screw you DF if you do not like the message, if you do not like the movie.....leave.
And keep your GD hands to yourself, after all it was just a movie.
Now what you are demanding is that I change, when I have placed no demands on you. I only expressed myself how I felt. I am free to do this and have not hurt anyone.
And the response was murder.
Sorry I will murder all of you to be free
to express myself as I wish.
Anything less is not freedom and a demand you have placed on me.
When I start making demands on you , you will understand.
But the only demand I've placed on you is , I've the right to express yourself if you do not like my expression , you have the right to walk away. Or express yourself in rebuttal. much like dis...
You're going to "murder" all of us to be free?

Uh...pardon me if I don't accept that.

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#128539 Oct 9, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Another double standard. Once again if a Christian responds emotionally to being called uneducated, liar, bigot, etc..
they get berated non-stop. I say equal treatment across the board. I Christians are retard for following a zombie god , then the Jews are retarded for following an even more outdated vengeful asshole of a god, and the Muslims are F@cken braindead for killing people over a criticism of a prophet let alone their camel riding desert dwelling murderous allah. We can't forget about the Wiccans which are just fairy loven nudist tree F@cken hippies or the Atheists and their nihilistic belief system and egocentric condescending attitudes.
What is a double standard here? TBS made a statement

quote
“I don't believe that we should walk around on egg shells for the mussies or anyone else.“
endquote

I replied with
quote
Therefore you should expect whatever comes you way without complaint
endnote

Nothing double standard about that but of course we already know you are one of those Americans who thinks that Americans should not shoulder responsibility for their actions. So what can we assume from this? you are tolling, ok expected.

FYI, the Jews, Christians and Moslims all follow the same god, they just worship that god in a different way. Don’t know much about the Abrahamic religions do you?

Which of course totally screws up the rest of your argument because it indicates that you know even less about other beliefs. My guess is in your case it’s deliberate but hey ho…

However as I have said many times on here there is no excuse for murder just as there is no excuse for enticing hatred.

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#128540 Oct 9, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
You just haven't slept with Double Fine yet.
<sigh...>
What makes you say that?

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#128541 Oct 9, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I howled with laughter when I saw Dawkins banging a guy on the show.
But when I saw Indiana Jones getting raped I thought it was the drugs - "this can't really be happening" but it was! Just like Indiana 4 happened...
Hahahaha! That was funny. Dawkins banging Mr. Garrision (or Mrs. Garrison, he had a sex change)

And who can forget this lovely scene:

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#128542 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Therefore you should expect whatever comes you way without complaint
There is nothing weak about civility and understanding, it shows more humanity than the fu[ckem attitude.
And as Givemeliberty pointed out:
Givemeliberty wrote:
Not to mention there are hundreds of Muslim made movies, tv shows, plays all mocking the Jews their beliefs. Even children's tv shows over there bash the Jews! It looks like they got a small taste of their own medicine and couldn't take it.
<quoted text>
Your beloved mussies murder when offended, and everything can offended them. They can attack on any holiday they wish, or any place they wish, at anytime they wish; but boy can they cry like babies, when attacked on their holidays, or at one of their holy buildings, or at the wrong time of the month!

You want to appease them, you go right ahead! America is trying it, too! One day, we may have a president and a congress, who will not play by the mussies' rules.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#128543 Oct 9, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point.
Hey, just so you know, South Park is my favourite show. And as you know, they insult EVERYBODY - Actors, scientists, Blue collar workers, white collar fat cats, whites, blacks, latinos, jews, gays, christians, scientologists, atheists.... And Tom Cruise.
I absolutely love the show - freedom of speech, right?
Absolutely! I don't much care for the show, so I don't watch it. I damn sure don't commit murder when they attack my group!

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#128544 Oct 9, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>If all the guy is responible for is making a movie then what is the point of pointing it out? Is there a consequence that you think he should pay for making the movie? If so then what is the consequence of a girl dressing provacatively? If the girl that got raped for dressing provacatively is the victim the what would that make the film maker ?
That is what I have been saying for two weeks

A person is responsible for their actions

The girl for getting dressed

The rapist for raping the girl

The filmmaker for making the film

The murderers for murder

Welcome to my club

Now to the nub of the matter, take responsibility to the next stage.

If the girl deliberately (any girl, dressed provocatively or not) incited the rapist knowing the possible consequences of her provocation then she is responsible for inciting the rapist.

Even knowing the consequences the filmmaker deliberately edited and dubbed the film before release. It was released with the sole aim of inciting hatred. He is responsible for inciting hatred.

Not me, not you, not joe bloggs, not the girl who was raped and not the Muslims who took against the film

Those same Muslims are responsible for murder.

Tell me, if you deliberately get drunk and then cause a car accident in which another car is knocked off its path into a crowd of schoolchildren. Who is responsible for the death of the schoolchildren?

This is the world of responsibility, when (if) you grow up you will come to realise this

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#128545 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course I am not saying that wearing provocative clothing make you guilty of being raped,
Now wait a minute! Your actions helped caused an unstable mind, to think that it was alright to have sex with you; and you don't think you should take any responsibility for that!?!?!? WTF?!?!?

Therefore you should expect whatever comes you way without complaint!!!

Yeah, you have double standards, alright!

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#128546 Oct 9, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I totally agree with you!!!
Right up until "atheists." I mean...gosh, aren't we the only ones who deeply understand the universe?!? We found the one true absence of god!
:)
Mostly agree is good enough for me.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#128547 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Ok you made up my mind...Muslims have no mind. Best not to provoke them.
Just exterminate them all. After all they cannot accept criticism a joke , a stupid movie, being called on unjust or humanitarian matters, foreigners in their country , anything that upsets their view of Allah, poking fun at Mohammad , taking pictures of then licking their camels ass, Jews praying at the dome of the rock, Jews being in Israel, Jews minding their own business. And Jews Period. Americans anywhere else , Americans anywhere in America , America....The fact they are paid attention, the fact they have not been paid attention.
Seems to me... some people are.. just fucking impossible to get along with.
I have an Idea ....its not Anything you did or said and ''its not what you think . What it is...is stupidity called religion.
Whether you like it or not I'm free to poke muh hah med with what ev Vah tool I choose , including films you do not like.
And if you do not like it... close ya eyes baby.
Because America is free to do this .
Don't like it?
Fuvck you!
That's the way it is..and the way it will always be.
Want me to tell you why now?
Yo Aura

Keep out of a discussion if you can't keep emotion out of it.

I agree with freedom of expression.

However, we should know that some things get people hot under the collar, and some topics can even incite violence.

As responsible citizens, let's not add fuel to the fire

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