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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#236473 Sep 8, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I don't believe you can prove the horseshoe crab's DNA hasn't changed in 500 million years.
Come on, bring some peer reviewed evidence to the table.
<quoted text>
Just look at the 500 million old fossils. They look just like they do today.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#236474 Sep 8, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Your sodom and gomorrah story says child rape is OK.
But you've already admitted to knowing very little of your bible so you're not in a good place.
<quoted text>
the Bible reveals how you sodomites think child or any type rape is a-ok as long as it feels good in your groins and this is why you sodomites don't like said Bible!;-)

“True Blue”

Since: Jun 13

Sunburnt Country

#236475 Sep 8, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
oont never judge a jozef mengele until you had az much fun experimenting on a jew az he.
huh, freuline roza!;-)
Du kannst nicht schreibe Deutsch rechtes, dumkopf.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#236476 Sep 8, 2014
Thinking wrote:
No.
For the first time in recorded history, over half of our young adults have no religion.
So non belief is growing far quicker than islam in the UK.
Religion is dying of old age over here.
<quoted text>
I can say I helped with this - my four boys were given the choice to be involved or not with religion, as long as they didn't require me to be part of it - inclusive of me driving them to where they wanted to go.

I've never had any problems with any of them, and all of them are great loving people.

“True Blue”

Since: Jun 13

Sunburnt Country

#236477 Sep 8, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
yeah - lot and his wife spent too much time hangin with the sodomites and that's part of the leeson to be learned!:-)
please don't tell me that you watch the logo network on cable, hon......
Sehr gut, Arschficker.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#236478 Sep 8, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Science has continuity is that right? How about three cheers for science!
How about you explain these nuclear accidents that have occurred in the last 50 years.
2011 Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster
2001 Instituto Oncologico Nacional radiotherapy accident
1996 San Juan de Dios radiotherapy accident
1990 Clinic of Zaragoza radiotherapy accident
1987 Goiânia accident
1986 Chernobyl disaster and Chernobyl disaster effects
1979 Three Mile Island accident and Three Mile Island accident health effects
1969 Lucens reactor
1962 Thor missile launch failures during nuclear weapons testing at Johnston Atoll under Operation Fishbowl 1962
Cuban missile crisis 1961 SL-1 nuclear meltdown
1961 K-19 nuclear accident 1959 SRE partial nuclear meltdown at Santa Susana Field Laboratory
1957 Kyshtym disaster
1957 Windscale fire 1957 Operation Plumbbob 1954
Totskoye nuclear exercise Bikini Atoll Hanford Site Rocky Flats Plant, see also radioactive contamination from the Rocky Flats Plant Techa River Pollution of Lake Karachay
Why? what does this prove? Men make mistakes?

Here you go again, skirting around the focal point of my post(s) and creating a new direction for you to travel, that really has no bearing on what has been discussed.

"Continuity" - a continuous connection. That is Science.

You cannot say this to be true with religion, because I've already shown you where inconsistency is the governing concept.

Please explain why religion has killed so many millions of peoples?

That is how silly your question was to me.

You'll avoid answering aspects of your religion, just to scoot away from doing so, and then come back and require others to answer something that has not bearing on the original topic.

Typical Catholic....and if you aren't one - you sure sound exactly like they do....always coming up with an excuse to be direct and honest with another person.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#236479 Sep 8, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Yawn. More people die naturally of skin cancer!
Or add all those incidents up versus the 2004 Tsunami.
<quoted text>
In addition....over 150K people die daily in the world.....is the poster concerned about those?

No.....KM is just so brainwashed, he is afraid to admit facts and the truths behind the semantics he sweeps under teh rug.

How else do so-called "Christians" garner followers - by applying non-bearing analogies - instead of real-life occurrences and facts.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#236480 Sep 8, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Why would you need to work hard if your god was compassionate?
Surely resources aren't an issue for your god?
However you respond, it will make your god seem less than all powerful.
<quoted text>
God has been compassionate by giving us believers the means to work hard. And giving us the opportunity to prove ourselves as being worthy of sustainable employment.

Believe me God has been very compassionate to me. I’ve always had good work and a successful career. Not once have I stood in a soup line. Nor have I had to go to charity to have a nice place to sleep or something for my family to eat.

Not that receiving those things are bad but being in the position to give to charity is far better than being a receiver of charity. And God has always blessed me to be on the giving side.

Having work is a blessing and it brings prosperity.

“True Blue”

Since: Jun 13

Sunburnt Country

#236481 Sep 8, 2014
Thinking wrote:
No.
For the first time in recorded history, over half of our young adults have no religion.
So non belief is growing far quicker than islam in the UK.
Religion is dying of old age over here.
<quoted text>
Now that's progress.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#236482 Sep 8, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
God has been compassionate by giving us believers the means to work hard. And giving us the opportunity to prove ourselves as being worthy of sustainable employment.
CHECK!! One must be a believer in "God" in order to have a sustainable employment.

Does that mean you have placed wealth and money over "God"?

Hmmmmmm - not very enlightening to say the least.
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>Believe me God has been very compassionate to me. I’ve always had good work and a successful career. Not once have I stood in a soup line. Nor have I had to go to charity to have a nice place to sleep or something for my family to eat.
maybe you should venture down that road, to realize your humility instead of realize your pride.
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>Not that receiving those things are bad but being in the position to give to charity is far better than being a receiver of charity. And God has always blessed me to be on the giving side.
Many folks say this exact thing, "There are a lot worst off people than I." I am one of those people who has said this.

"God" must not have blessed me as much as "He" with you.....you probably feel lucky that you have additional amenities that others don't, huh? Lucky!!!
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>Having work is a blessing and it brings prosperity.
Of course it does.....that's what money does - brings prosperity. But "money" is of the devil.

Jesus wants you to give everything you own to charity. Since you haven't done this yet, please don not include yourself as a so-called "Christian", okay? We don't want to get you mixed up with the homeless family who goes to church every Sunday to pray for a home to live in, instead of the street.....OR....three meals a day on a table that isn't shared with 100s of others, or placed on a reusable tray.

*sighs*

Hypocrite.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#236483 Sep 8, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
What is an atheist faith?
They never answer that question coherently...
Thinking

Glasgow, UK

#236484 Sep 8, 2014
I don't believe you can prove the horseshoe crab's DNA hasn't changed in 500 million years.
Come on, bring some peer reviewed evidence to the table.
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Just look at the 500 million old fossils. They look just like they do today.
Thinking

Glasgow, UK

#236485 Sep 8, 2014
I'm straight but not homophobic.
I'm also not a cheater.
So I wouldn't fit into your world.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
the Bible reveals how you sodomites think child or any type rape is a-ok as long as it feels good in your groins and this is why you sodomites don't like said Bible!;-)
Thinking

Glasgow, UK

#236486 Sep 8, 2014
Arbeit macht frei.
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
God has been compassionate by giving us believers the means to work hard.
Thinking

Glasgow, UK

#236487 Sep 8, 2014
Many believers say you can't apply logic to their god, but then try to apply epic fail pseudo science to justify their fatally flawed position.
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
In addition....over 150K people die daily in the world.....is the poster concerned about those?
No.....KM is just so brainwashed, he is afraid to admit facts and the truths behind the semantics he sweeps under teh rug.
How else do so-called "Christians" garner followers - by applying non-bearing analogies - instead of real-life occurrences and facts.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#236488 Sep 8, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible - vague and inconsistent
Science - specific and has continuity
Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."
- this is very general and not very telling of how things came to be.
- When any universal object comes into existence - it is usually "formless" and then takes upon a form as years and centuries go by. According to how planets and other universal bodies of matter are created - dust and matter will continue to be attracted to and encircle a magnetic point until eventually, the matter and debris are pulled together with quantum particles.
- Nothing like that here. You are wrong.
Science and the Big Bang:
- although still considered a theory - it does contain many missing facts that the Bible does not hold, and/or suggest to be true.
Again - you are incorrect in your supposed belief.
"Big Bang Theory - Common Misconceptions
Th...came from, why it's here, or even where it is. All we really know is that we are inside of it and at one time it didn't exist and neither did we."
http://www.big-bang-theory.com/
Genesis 1:1-2 (NASB)
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.
Be specific with the passage. What is inconsistent?
That the universe came into existence initially the earth and stars were not formed?
That the three most common elements in the universe are hydrogen, helium and oxygen?
In fact, in your article they are surprised Creationists DON'T jump on the band wagon!
However, this site is more detailed:
http://www.space.com/25126-big-bang-theory.ht...
"This early soup would have been impossible to look at, because light could not carry inside of it. "The free electrons would have caused light (photons) to scatter the way sunlight scatters from the water droplets in clouds," NASA stated. Over time, however, the free electrons met up with nuclei and created neutral atoms. This allowed light to shine through about 380,000 years after the Big Bang."
That hardly conflicts with the very next verses that follow, "darkness was over the surface of the deep..."
Genesis 1:3-5 (NASB)
3 Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
4 God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness.
5 God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
I'm having fun, you?
Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#236489 Sep 8, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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What is an atheist faith?
The factless hope that Jesus was a terrorist and Hitler was a Christian.

Do you understand what an oxymoron those two claims create?

Smirk smile.

“too hard to handle”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#236490 Sep 8, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible - vague and inconsistent
Science - specific and has continuity
Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."
- this is very general and not very telling of how things came to be.
- When any universal object comes into existence - it is usually "formless" and then takes upon a form as years and centuries go by. According to how planets and other universal bodies of matter are created - dust and matter will continue to be attracted to and encircle a magnetic point until eventually, the matter and debris are pulled together with quantum particles.
- Nothing like that here. You are wrong.
Science and the Big Bang:
- although still considered a theory - it does contain many missing facts that the Bible does not hold, and/or suggest to be true.
Again - you are incorrect in your supposed belief.
"Big Bang Theory - Common Misconceptions
There are many misconceptions surrounding the Big Bang theory. For example, we tend to imagine a giant explosion. Experts however say that there was no explosion; there was (and continues to be) an expansion. Rather than imagining a balloon popping and releasing its contents, imagine a balloon expanding: an infinitesimally small balloon expanding to the size of our current universe.
Another misconception is that we tend to image the singularity as a little fireball appearing somewhere in space. According to the many experts however, space didn't exist prior to the Big Bang. Back in the late '60s and early '70s, when men first walked upon the moon, "three British astrophysicists, Steven Hawking, George Ellis, and Roger Penrose turned their attention to the Theory of Relativity and its implications regarding our notions of time. In 1968 and 1970, they published papers in which they extended Einstein's Theory of General Relativity to include measurements of time and space.1, 2 According to their calculations, time and space had a finite beginning that corresponded to the origin of matter and energy."3 The singularity didn't appear in space; rather, space began inside of the singularity. Prior to the singularity, nothing existed, not space, time, matter, or energy - nothing. So where and in what did the singularity appear if not in space? We don't know. We don't know where it came from, why it's here, or even where it is. All we really know is that we are inside of it and at one time it didn't exist and neither did we."
http://www.big-bang-theory.com/
That IS what Christianity teaches. Nothing at all then God creates. It is a description, not an explanation of the beginning.
Thinking

Glasgow, UK

#236491 Sep 8, 2014
jesus died in a sex game because god forgot "forsaken" was the safe word.

Naughty forgetful god.
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
The factless hope that Jesus was a terrorist and Hitler was a Christian.
Do you understand what an oxymoron those two claims create?
Smirk smile.
Roll Tide

Alabaster, AL

#236492 Sep 8, 2014
religionislies wrote:
<quoted text>
There's no such thing as god and you're mentally ill for believing this crap.
You're also disrespectful of Atheists who don't believe in your lies with good reason.
Go back to your cult of Creationism and tell them you failed to convert any Atheists today.
It's good to know that you will permanently be stranded in Hell to burn alive forever.

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