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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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religionislies

Great Missenden, UK

#236369 Sep 6, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Haaahaaa I’ll be glad to tell you.
What we have here in your particular case is the “Dunning–Kruger effect.”
Pay attention scooter.
“The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias manifesting in unskilled individuals suffering from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.”
“David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University conclude, "the miss-calibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miss-calibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others".
Now let me break all that down to a more simpler explanation of where you’re at. You’re a person who thinks you are much more intelligent than what you really are. Remember when you were in school you didn’t study for those test?
And the reason you didn’t study was because you were a genius in your own mind. The reality Bubba is that you are a dumbas*. Plain and simple a dumbas* But you think you’re a genius. You see that’s the Dunning–Kruger effect at play in your situation.
You’re thinking you have hit a home run. The rest of us just watched you strike out and lose the game for your team. But in your own mind you’re the guest of honor in a New York Ticker Tape Parade.
Bubba, I hate to break it to you like this but you didn’t hit a home run. You stuck out. You’re just a plain ole dumbas* suffering from the Dunning–Kruger effect.
Ref: Wiki
You are weak liars with no evidence of your Creationist god.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#236370 Sep 7, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Haaahaaa I’ll be glad to tell you.
What we have here in your particular case is the “Dunning–Kruger effect.”
Pay attention scooter.
“The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias manifesting in unskilled individuals suffering from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.”
“David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University conclude, "the miss-calibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miss-calibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others".
Now let me break all that down to a more simpler explanation of where you’re at. You’re a person who thinks you are much more intelligent than what you really are. Remember when you were in school you didn’t study for those test?
And the reason you didn’t study was because you were a genius in your own mind. The reality Bubba is that you are a dumbas*. Plain and simple a dumbas* But you think you’re a genius. You see that’s the Dunning–Kruger effect at play in your situation.
You’re thinking you have hit a home run. The rest of us just watched you strike out and lose the game for your team. But in your own mind you’re the guest of honor in a New York Ticker Tape Parade.
Bubba, I hate to break it to you like this but you didn’t hit a home run. You stuck out. You’re just a plain ole dumbas* suffering from the Dunning–Kruger effect.
Ref: Wiki
You're far off the mark and I'm very well grounded. I'm a regular guy and I make no bones about it, or claim otherwise.

But, I do remember that it was pointed out before, to you, that you exhibited all the hallmarks of the Dunning–Kruger effect. I wouldn't make that claim. I don't know much about you. However, based upon your post above and what you've said, I wouldn't doubt it.

Admit it, you've been miffed about this post http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T... below, I made long ago and ever since then, you've been pissed. It was all in fun.

We've had some good times, Eagle.

Here's a post I remember fondly.

*
Eagle12 wrote: To be honest with you I have never spent any time admiring a man’s nipples. When I see another man at the lake of beach with his shirt off. I don’t say to my self,“he has a nice set of nipples.”(...)
<quoted text>

TheBlackSheep wrote:
Why the long rant on the male nipple? The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

scaritual wrote: Yeah, Eagle has man nipple issues.

Eagle on the man nipple:
"QUICK, Martha, get the kids in the house! The neighbor is mowing his yard shirtless and I can see his man nipples from here!" - 03/21/78

"GEEZUSS... I don't even know why we come to the beach. Look at all these exposed man nipples. That's it! Put the kids in the car, Martha, we're going home! If I wanna see man nipples I can see them for free when the neighbor mows the lawn." - 7/7/82

"It's nice to meet you and I think you're the State Representative we need in Washington. Okay, do you have any ideas about how we can STOP man nipples being exposed? They're everywhere... Men cutting the grass, shirtless, landscapers, it's a disgrace I tell you." - 11/11/87

"I can't BELIEVE this! The neighbor is mowing the lawn shirtless again!. I should go over there with some pliers and grab his exposed man nipples and grab on to them and just grab..n..pull..them.. really,..<gulp> rEAlly....harRrd..um then twIst...themmmm.... QUICK!, MARTHA!...MEET ME IN THE BEDROOM! BRING THE TOOL BELT!..." - 6/9/99
http://www.topix.com/forum/ncaa/basketball/TU...

Your response to the above was:

Eagle 12 wrote: You have to be gay.
http://www.topix.com/forum/ncaa/basketball/TU...

Which speaks more to your intelligence, or lack of, than anything you might say in reference to me.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#236371 Sep 7, 2014
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
Keep telling yourself that. It'll go hand in hand with your other fantasies.
Such a simple challenge on a site debating atheist faith.

And you immediately fail.

Made my day honey!

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#236372 Sep 7, 2014
religionislies wrote:
<quoted text>
You are weak liars with no evidence of your Creationist god.
Hey, why don't you take up my challenge with the sissy scaritual???

Smirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#236373 Sep 7, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
How childish again.
I don't need to 'prove' what is in black and white in an ancient book.
You denigrate others when they can't explain what is in the Bible, than turn around and dismiss what can be understood in the Bible.
Foolish hypocrisy.
Run and hide 'rational atheist' oxymoron!!!
Snicker smile.
<quoted text>
I called it what it is.
Your scoffing is a childish, cheap masquerade of intelligence.
Now you stoop to ad homoan troll attacks.
I live in Reality, I've never seen you there yet.
Smirk.
USN Atheist wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, having "faith" and religion is far from being called "reality.
You are diverting. I'm not trying to argue faith with a faithless person. What point would there be in that?

I asked you three specific questions about undeniable facts listed in an ancient book. I asked you how those facts, only recently understood by science, came to be there, and you are dumbfounded!

It is clear you have no knowledge of faith, and you fear facts. Are you sure this is the right thread for you?

SMile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#236374 Sep 7, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
It's unrealistic to expect anyone to review thousands of posts to find one of yours, especially when you can easily repost or rewrite it or to simply restate your beliefs along with evidence to support them. If you won't do that, you simply don't care enough about them to want others to think about them. If you don't care, why should anyone else?
It's three posts back in our discussion. She has no problem remembering what I asked.

I have no problem responding to genuine requests. She is diverting to avoid answering and I called her on it.

Finally, using your reasoning, if she cared about the discussion and others, she would maintain the context. It is her responsibility to do so, not others.

Smile.
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#236375 Sep 7, 2014
religionislies wrote:
<quoted text>
There's no such thing as god and you're mentally ill for believing this crap.
You're also disrespectful of Atheists who don't believe in your lies with good reason.
Go back to your cult of Creationism and tell them you failed to convert any Atheists today.
" Good reason " ...Shirley , you jest .

The only reason , you deny God existence is because of the poor example of the Christians ...nothing more ... as , you would never deign to explore for yourself ..

And of course , my apologies ; I forgot that rejecting God , somehow makes your intelligence quotient increase ..
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#236376 Sep 7, 2014
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, look, the guy who does the bad Capt. James T. Kirk impression is back
...LOOK... I don't care what you write about me ..

But , can you please keep Captain Kirk out of it ..?
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#236377 Sep 7, 2014
USN Atheist wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, having "faith" and religion is far from being called "reality.
You , mean to say just because you ' can't ' see it , it doesn't exist ..?
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#236378 Sep 7, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Just so you know, we being friends and all.
You're out of your league there.
[hugs]
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#236379 Sep 7, 2014
Jake from State Farm wrote:
<quoted text>
Fantastic rebuttal. Very good !!!!
[tipping hat]
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#236380 Sep 7, 2014
religionislies wrote:
<quoted text>
You are weak liars with no evidence of your Creationist god.
We are going to have a great church service today. I'll say a prayer for you my good friend.
[tipping hat] Brits rock!
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#236381 Sep 7, 2014
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
You're far off the mark and I'm very well grounded. I'm a regular guy and I make no bones about it, or claim otherwise.
But, I do remember that it was pointed out before, to you, that you exhibited all the hallmarks of the Dunning–Kruger effect. I wouldn't make that claim. I don't know much about you. However, based upon your post above and what you've said, I wouldn't doubt it.
Admit it, you've been miffed about this post http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T... below, I made long ago and ever since then, you've been pissed. It was all in fun.
We've had some good times, Eagle.
Here's a post I remember fondly.
*
Eagle12 wrote: To be honest with you I have never spent any time admiring a man’s nipples. When I see another man at the lake of beach with his shirt off. I don’t say to my self,“he has a nice set of nipples.”(...)
<quoted text>
TheBlackSheep wrote:
Why the long rant on the male nipple? The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
scaritual wrote: Yeah, Eagle has man nipple issues.
Eagle on the man nipple:
"QUICK, Martha, get the kids in the house! The neighbor is mowing his yard shirtless and I can see his man nipples from here!" - 03/21/78
"GEEZUSS... I don't even know why we come to the beach. Look at all these exposed man nipples. That's it! Put the kids in the car, Martha, we're going home! If I wanna see man nipples I can see them for free when the neighbor mows the lawn." - 7/7/82
"It's nice to meet you and I think you're the State Representative we need in Washington. Okay, do you have any ideas about how we can STOP man nipples being exposed? They're everywhere... Men cutting the grass, shirtless, landscapers, it's a disgrace I tell you." - 11/11/87
"I can't BELIEVE this! The neighbor is mowing the lawn shirtless again!. I should go over there with some pliers and grab his exposed man nipples and grab on to them and just grab..n..pull..them.. really,..<gulp> rEAlly....harRrd..um then twIst...themmmm.... QUICK!, MARTHA!...MEET ME IN THE BEDROOM! BRING THE TOOL BELT!..." - 6/9/99
http://www.topix.com/forum/ncaa/basketball/TU...
Your response to the above was:
Eagle 12 wrote: You have to be gay.
http://www.topix.com/forum/ncaa/basketball/TU...
Which speaks more to your intelligence, or lack of, than anything you might say in reference to me.
My good friend, thank you for making me stronger in my faith. You have been a blessing.[tipping hat]
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#236382 Sep 7, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
It's three posts back in our discussion. She has no problem remembering what I asked.
I have no problem responding to genuine requests. She is diverting to avoid answering and I called her on it.
Finally, using your reasoning, if she cared about the discussion and others, she would maintain the context. It is her responsibility to do so, not others.
Smile.
Yep, I know how it is, everything is our fault.[laughing]

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#236384 Sep 7, 2014
Here's the thing about ancient books: the older thy are, the less there was in the bank of human knowledge when they were written. Newer books are much more likely to have faults based on extreme ignorance.
religionislies

Great Missenden, UK

#236385 Sep 7, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
My good friend, thank you for making me stronger in my faith. You have been a blessing.[tipping hat]
Creationism is a shrinking cult and a mental illness, not a faith.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#236386 Sep 7, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>1 ) Creation began with His words " let there be light "...
The two verses prior to "let there be light" in the Genesis portion of your holy novel of myth negate that claim. It essentially places the cart before the horse.

Plus, there is no way to substantiate that claim, due to the mythic origins of the book.

What I'm saying is essentially all deity creator myths have origin stories and the biblical story is no more valid or compelling than any other.

I don't place any belief in those stories as representing reality. There is no evidence to verify, and that's why I consider them to be myth. That is why they are considered mythic. Just so you know what I mean when I say "myth" :

Noun: myth
1. A traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
2. A traditional story accepted as history; serves to explain the world view of a people.
WordWeb Pro 7.02
Science , says the Cosmos began in a fraction of a second ..
It's more complicated than that, the BB was an identified event and evidence is showing there was something prior to the BB - we haven't fully determined what that state was with any certainty - but there was a preexisting state, IE; there was not a complete absence of matter, or "nothingness" prior to the BB.
2 ) God made them female and male ...
Myth, for the reasons given above. You're making the claim, you need to support the claim in some way. A religious book is not the supporting proof in and of itself.
http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg601/sca...
No matter how much you believe it may be.
Science , says homosexuals damage their anal canals and are are spreading virulent disease ..
Supply your source for that claim.

I'm not going to tear apart every claim you make, just because you make the claim without some sort of effort on your part to support the claim.
3 ) God made them from the clay of the Earth ...
Myth, for the reasons given above.
Science ...well...doesn't really know " primordial ooze "
The common term is "primordial soup", and there is some supporting evidence in regards to that hypothesis. My position is; I'm curious to see what develops in the upcoming years with the way all science is rapidly advancing in present times.
..God wins ..
Myth, for the reasons given above.
in the Seas ...Atheists win
By the way, there is no "win/lose" competition here.

Science is fluid and dynamic. Religion is static, or unchanging.
4) God says you are to be stewards ..
Myth, for the reasons given above.
Science , says man is responsible for the destruction of the environment ..
Science says far more than that, but mankind definitely does impact the environment, in many negative ways.
So , which of these do you disagree with ...?
See above.

If you have any supporting evidence to substantiate any of the deity/creator hypothesis' held by all theists or yourself, please, provide them.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#236387 Sep 7, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
My good friend, thank you for making me stronger in my faith. You have been a blessing.[tipping hat]
You're welcome.
religionislies

Great Missenden, UK

#236388 Sep 7, 2014
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
How childish again.
I don't need to 'prove' what is in black and white in an ancient book.
You denigrate others when they can't explain what is in the Bible, than turn around and dismiss what can be understood in the Bible.
Foolish hypocrisy.
Run and hide 'rational atheist' oxymoron!!!
Snicker smile.
<quoted text>
I called it what it is.
Your scoffing is a childish, cheap masquerade of intelligence.
Now you stoop to ad homoan troll attacks.
I live in Reality, I've never seen you there yet.
Smirk.
<quoted text>
You are diverting. I'm not trying to argue faith with a faithless person. What point would there be in that?
I asked you three specific questions about undeniable facts listed in an ancient book. I asked you how those facts, only recently understood by science, came to be there, and you are dumbfounded!
It is clear you have no knowledge of faith, and you fear facts. Are you sure this is the right thread for you?
SMile.
Run scared from no evidence of god.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#236389 Sep 7, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>You , mean to say just because you ' can't ' see it , it doesn't exist ..?
I've been walking on this planet for approximately 23,360 days, and still no evidence of a supposed Supreme Being. 23,360 days of nothing out of the ordinary or remotely supernatural, but I should disregard those hard facts and believe that there is "something guiding us" because the majority of humans have agreed "that's just the way things are."
I can't derail common sense as easily as you have, nor would I ever want to.

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