Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#235514 Aug 27, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
Whew! This is too, too easy.
Grab thy bible quick!
On second thought I think sarcasm is more fitting
Are you a creepy Jeehovy Witness! No?
You are a TRUE Christian.
please take this pop quiz:
1. Do you believe in God?
A.Yes, I believe in my one TRUE God.
B.Yes, I have my own religious beliefs.
C.I'm not really sure but a sword to my throat would convince me.
D.No, I prefer fact to faith.
2. Do you believe in MY God?
A. Oh totally.(That's a fine sword you have there).
B.Nah, I already had one of those.
C.There is no God. Gasp!
D. Can god commit suicide?
3. Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?
A. You bet! One time, two times, three times my savior!
B. i'm not sure which God is better
C. Jesus who?
D. No, I'll opt out.
4. Have you read the King James Bible?
A. Yes! Like OMG, it's my freaking life!
B. Yeah, it was decent.
C. Yes, but The Cat in the Hat was better.
D. I'd rather eat a thumbtack sandwich than read that garbage.
5. The TRUE meaning of the 6th Commandment:
A. Thou shalt not kill anyone for any reason.
B.Thou shalt not kill anyone except for the people who don't believe in the same God you believe in or people who don't believe in God at all.
C. Thou shalt not kill except if they really piss you off.
D. Slay away! More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason in history.
The salvation of your eternal soul depends on how you answer the quiz.
Remember it is only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize...
There is always a way to solve problems without violence.
Curious.

A self-proclaimed agnostic that believes in salvation of our eternal souls.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#235515 Aug 27, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:

The next time believers tell you that 'separation of church and state' does not appear in our founding document, tell them to stop using the word 'trinity.'
Well that's because "separation of church and state" does not appear in our founding document.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"

As you can tell, "separation of church and state" is there, right? All except for the words separation, of, church, and, & state, that is…
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#235516 Aug 27, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
He was a thug and a felon. These facts are known.
You go into a squad car on top of an armed cop, and you ask for whatever you get.
I have attacked cops. But I stopped before they shot me.
I respectfully disagree with you Buck. You know I love you but I just see it different. I think that Michael Brown was a good person most of his life. At least I want to believe that of him and for whatever reason he strayed away from his upbringing momentarily.

He did shove a store clerk but what he didn’t do was beat him unconscious. He didn’t come storming in that store with an AK-47. Yes he robbed a store of $50 worth of merchandise. It was wrong and he should have been arrested and face prosecution.

If this officer had been a petite 95 pound female officer then perhaps fear of her life may have been a factor in shooting this young man. But that is far from the case. This cop shot dead a unarmed suspect. Even if there was a tussle between the two. Cops are trained for tussles.

I don’t believe that nonsense that Michael was reaching for that cops gun. He may have been trying to keep that officer from pulling his gun. A bad move on his part but considering the outcome perhaps it wasn’t.

This officer should be charged with manslaughter. He had other options including his radio (calling for back up), pepper spray, tasers, nightsticks, training in hand to hand combat. Anyway you look at it this idiot cop shot dead a unarmed young man. I don’t believe it was murder. But I do believe it was manslaughter and he should go to prison for being an idiot.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#235517 Aug 27, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
He was a thug and a felon. These facts are known.
You go into a squad car on top of an armed cop, and you ask for whatever you get.
I have attacked cops. But I stopped before they shot me.
Ever have to face down a K-9?

I had a friend that did. He was running from the cops, heard their warning about the dog, ignored it and has a huge scar on his forearm because of it.

He said he'll never run from a K-9 again.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#235518 Aug 27, 2014
ChristineM wrote:

Year, right, references and corroboration please...
Because Hitler was talking about HIMSELF at the very time he lived
What you always "just happens to be Hitler's propaganda political speeches, don't you realize that?

Do you believe all politicians when they give speeches?

Read my lips, no new taxes. Bush, sr

If you like your doctor, you can keep him. Obama

I am not a crook. Richard Nixon

I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Clinton

I'm working for the Lord. Hitler

Hahaha.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#235519 Aug 27, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I respectfully disagree with you Buck. You know I love you but I just see it different. I think that Michael Brown was a good person most of his life. At least I want to believe that of him and for whatever reason he strayed away from his upbringing momentarily.
He did shove a store clerk but what he didn’t do was beat him unconscious. He didn’t come storming in that store with an AK-47. Yes he robbed a store of $50 worth of merchandise. It was wrong and he should have been arrested and face prosecution.
If this officer had been a petite 95 pound female officer then perhaps fear of her life may have been a factor in shooting this young man. But that is far from the case. This cop shot dead a unarmed suspect. Even if there was a tussle between the two. Cops are trained for tussles.
I don’t believe that nonsense that Michael was reaching for that cops gun. He may have been trying to keep that officer from pulling his gun. A bad move on his part but considering the outcome perhaps it wasn’t.
This officer should be charged with manslaughter. He had other options including his radio (calling for back up), pepper spray, tasers, nightsticks, training in hand to hand combat. Anyway you look at it this idiot cop shot dead a unarmed young man. I don’t believe it was murder. But I do believe it was manslaughter and he should go to prison for being an idiot.
If the young man, all football lineman size accompanied by another man advanced on the policeman and possibly even pushed him back into the squad car, then the officer was definitely in fear of his life. It takes seconds for a raging bull to do some serious damage to the matador. Sword or no sword.

The young man had just exercised his physical superiority and will to break the law minutes before. His blood was up.

Let's wait for all the facts to come out, especially if there was physical injury to the officer.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#235520 Aug 27, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I respectfully disagree with you Buck. You know I love you but I just see it different. I think that Michael Brown was a good person most of his life. At least I want to believe that of him and for whatever reason he strayed away from his upbringing momentarily.
He did shove a store clerk but what he didn’t do was beat him unconscious. He didn’t come storming in that store with an AK-47. Yes he robbed a store of $50 worth of merchandise. It was wrong and he should have been arrested and face prosecution.
If this officer had been a petite 95 pound female officer then perhaps fear of her life may have been a factor in shooting this young man. But that is far from the case. This cop shot dead a unarmed suspect. Even if there was a tussle between the two. Cops are trained for tussles.
I don’t believe that nonsense that Michael was reaching for that cops gun. He may have been trying to keep that officer from pulling his gun. A bad move on his part but considering the outcome perhaps it wasn’t.
This officer should be charged with manslaughter. He had other options including his radio (calling for back up), pepper spray, tasers, nightsticks, training in hand to hand combat. Anyway you look at it this idiot cop shot dead a unarmed young man. I don’t believe it was murder. But I do believe it was manslaughter and he should go to prison for being an idiot.
You reached your conclusion without the facts.

That's what an investigation is for. If Wilson is found from the evidence to have committed manslaughter, then I agree he should go to prison.

I also believe he deserves the right to present the evidence that favors his side of the story, and as yet we don't know what that evidence is.

There are plausible scenarios in which is is guilty of no criminal act. What is the extent of his injury? Was his vision impaired from the blood and the battered eye socket? Did Brown charge him before the shots were fired as multiple witnesses say?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#235521 Aug 27, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Could?... COULD?
So you think ‘could’ represent’s known testimony. Wow that explains so much about your apparent stupidity.
Have you ever considered that maybe the author of the CNN piece is not a dies in the wool christian and so used the word with its actual sense rather than what you believed it to mean?
What is my conclusion? That a black guy got shot (seems to happen a lot in your country) by police causing racial unrest and riots.
Could is speculation about what the testimony may mean. Your comments are premature, bigoted judgments.
The vast majority of shootings are black on black.
Smile.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#235522 Aug 27, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
You reached your conclusion without the facts.
That's what an investigation is for. If Wilson is found from the evidence to have committed manslaughter, then I agree he should go to prison.
I also believe he deserves the right to present the evidence that favors his side of the story, and as yet we don't know what that evidence is.
There are plausible scenarios in which is is guilty of no criminal act. What is the extent of his injury? Was his vision impaired from the blood and the battered eye socket? Did Brown charge him before the shots were fired as multiple witnesses say?
You're correct.

But what do we needs facts for when the Al Sharpton's out there have already exonerated Brown and sentenced to cop to death?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#235523 Aug 27, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
I think the idea that we're all born in sin, is because of the act we're all the result of. Maybe testube babies should be the exception.
Then there was the Original Sin, [email protected] apple!
You may be onto something here....

I wonder if the fear of someone being born through stem cell research would be in fact:
a. not born of a human - therefore "no sin" is involved.
b. This being could be the first RIGHTEOUS individual born since Noah was deemed as such.

"b." could change the world as we know it....*smiles*....

I can see why the US government has deemed it illegal.
I can understand why religious people also rebuke it.....it blows their lives out of the water, because a non-sin person would be born.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#235524 Aug 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
"The Father and I are One." -Jesus
<quoted text>
You see the part where he says "The Father and I are One."?
I'm pretty sure that means "The Father and I are One."....
Yes I do - "one in spirit".....

You do understand this, right?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#235525 Aug 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
<quoted text>
What? You're not making any sense.
I made perfect sense. Maybe it is you who failed to comprehend what I post.

Odd that you were the only one who responded this way.

But then again, I get the same type of response from other so-called "Christians".

All it tells me is that the individual(s) refused to investigate the statement(s).

Carry on.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#235526 Aug 27, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I respectfully disagree with you Buck. You know I love you but I just see it different. I think that Michael Brown was a good person most of his life. At least I want to believe that of him and for whatever reason he strayed away from his upbringing momentarily.
He did shove a store clerk but what he didn’t do was beat him unconscious. He didn’t come storming in that store with an AK-47. Yes he robbed a store of $50 worth of merchandise. It was wrong and he should have been arrested and face prosecution.
If this officer had been a petite 95 pound female officer then perhaps fear of her life may have been a factor in shooting this young man. But that is far from the case. This cop shot dead a unarmed suspect. Even if there was a tussle between the two. Cops are trained for tussles.
I don’t believe that nonsense that Michael was reaching for that cops gun. He may have been trying to keep that officer from pulling his gun. A bad move on his part but considering the outcome perhaps it wasn’t.
This officer should be charged with manslaughter. He had other options including his radio (calling for back up), pepper spray, tasers, nightsticks, training in hand to hand combat. Anyway you look at it this idiot cop shot dead a unarmed young man. I don’t believe it was murder. But I do believe it was manslaughter and he should go to prison for being an idiot.
According to the premise of Chrsitianity - Michael Brown is now in "hell".

Why some of you may ask.....well.....he stole - broke a commandment, and failed to repent and ask for forgiveness before dying.

Sounds to me that he went to "hell'.

Bummer for him and all those people who are skipping over this and giving him a "family" send-off.
I wonder why they never mention this part of the story?
John Fladgat

Worcester, UK

#235528 Aug 27, 2014
discocrisco wrote:
Maybe, the Christians got it right on the God thing. What they didn't know that is there is intelligent life right and God manifested himself in another way than us.
And there is millions of our civilizations among this universe and millions of ways God revealed himslf to them
But see it was none of business to know how he did it. It is beyond our feeble little minds. Us humans think we are terminally unique. Guess what. We are not. We are little specks in the infinite, large cosmos.
I have to agree. Baha'u'llah said there were other planets with creatures on them a long, long time ago. I believe him and scientists just catching up. I am reassured that the Big Boss is Boss of all universes!

Since: Sep 08

United States

#235529 Aug 27, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
You may be onto something here....
I wonder if the fear of someone being born through stem cell research would be in fact:
a. not born of a human - therefore "no sin" is involved.
b. This being could be the first RIGHTEOUS individual born since Noah was deemed as such.
"b." could change the world as we know it....*smiles*....
I can see why the US government has deemed it illegal.
I can understand why religious people also rebuke it.....it blows their lives out of the water, because a non-sin person would be born.
I would say your definition of sin was limited and incorrect.

BTW, it isn't physics, astrophysics, or any of those type sciences that have any real interest ln demonizing religion. It is the bioresearch industry that does. Religious beliefs of most persuasions have always been resistant to using humans as guinea pigs.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#235530 Aug 27, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes I do - "one in spirit".....
You do understand this, right?
More like a branch is part of the parent tree.

Of course you also then have branches branching off that branch.

Jesus understood how trees grew.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#235531 Aug 27, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I would say your definition of sin was limited and incorrect.
BTW, it isn't physics, astrophysics, or any of those type sciences that have any real interest ln demonizing religion. It is the bioresearch industry that does. Religious beliefs of most persuasions have always been resistant to using humans as guinea pigs.
FYI - I don't believe in sin.

I also don't believe that mental thoughts are "sins of the flesh".....like so many others do.

I used a limited example of "sin" because that particular "sin" - original sin - is bogus and wanted to rile up so-called "Christians" with posting it.

I guess it had a smaller impact on you, huh?

Peace.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#235532 Aug 27, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
More like a branch is part of the parent tree.
Of course you also then have branches branching off that branch.
Jesus understood how trees grew.
Not very well, it seems. He once cursed a fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season.

"12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree,“May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it." - Mark 11 - something.

A clearer thinker, of course, would have simply commanded the thing to bear fruit anyway - after all, that worked with those loaves and fishes, didn't it?

Or did it?

Sheesh.
CunningLinguist

Umatilla, FL

#235534 Aug 27, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, we do try.[tipping hat].
Yes you do!
You always give the devil two black eyes eaglet!

Unfortunately there is no devil.

Topical question for you eagle...
Who freed the slaves was it Lincoln or was it John Wilkes Booth?

One large says you get it wrong!
CunningLinguist

Umatilla, FL

#235535 Aug 27, 2014
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Not very well, it seems. He once cursed a fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season.
"12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree,“May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it." - Mark 11 - something.
A clearer thinker, of course, would have simply commanded the thing to bear fruit anyway - after all, that worked with those loaves and fishes, didn't it?
Or did it?
Sheesh.
Now now...

When Dabbling in superstition virtually anything is possible.

Except God committing suicide!
Which I highly recommend.

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