Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

United States

#235443 Aug 26, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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Dave is an old guy.
If you know what I mean.
Got your gyrocopter parked on the roof yet? Hook a seismograph up to autostart it. Then run like hell for it.

A self inflating helium balloon would deploy faster, but pray it is westerly winds that day. Or night.

Don't forget lots of shark repellent if things don't work properly.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#235444 Aug 26, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Long and aged hose.
Unless you want a new elbow, don't point it at me.

Hi Dave !!!

Since: Sep 08

United States

#235445 Aug 26, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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Unless you want a new elbow, don't point it at me.
Hi Dave !!!
:-)

Since: Sep 08

United States

#235446 Aug 26, 2014
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-27346...

ChristineM, how did your and your peers enlightened view of the world allow this to happen? At least 1400 cases.
Stephania

Fort Worth, TX

#235447 Aug 26, 2014
Atheism=Satanism=Gay=lesbianis m=pedophiles=
Murders=pornography=maniacs=pe rvs=druggie style and CORRUPTION,DISRUPTION FROM THE REAL GOD JESUS CHRIST,BRINGS ALL THIS KIND OF THING AS REWARDED BONUS FOR ALL THE PESTILENCE WHO SUPPORT ATHEISM AND WALKING AGAINST THE WILL AND POWER OF THE JESUS CHRIST.
religionislies

London, UK

#235448 Aug 26, 2014
Stephania wrote:
Atheism=Satanism=Gay=lesbianis m=pedophiles=
Murders=pornography=maniacs=pe rvs=druggie style and CORRUPTION,DISRUPTION FROM THE REAL GOD JESUS CHRIST,BRINGS ALL THIS KIND OF THING AS REWARDED BONUS FOR ALL THE PESTILENCE WHO SUPPORT ATHEISM AND WALKING AGAINST THE WILL AND POWER OF THE JESUS CHRIST.
oh grow up, there's never been a god and you know it.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#235449 Aug 27, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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The God of the OT was not the same throughout. It started with this all powerful and encompassing creative force that turned into just another Baal. Baal was a localized god those megalithic structures empowered. I have posted about that in the past. A tapping into the telluric currents. But the OT God is a confused collection of the two. The Christian God is more of the original. Allah is still stuck with the confusion. Islam is Judaism II. Too much ritual worship in the two for it to be the real deal. You have some of that in Christianity, but it is a holdover from older thought. Christianity is much more intellectual.
Paul's making it universal broke the tribal limitations of worshipping the force that created us. Judaism and Islam are still tribal.
Pure and simple, Pauline Christianity opened the door to manifesting on another level. The Abrahamic, Eastern, and most other religions, along with some Christian sects, are still worshipping this world and a Baal of some sort.
I don’t really care, I never wrote the Tanakh nor selectively copied and modified the other books based on it. How the stories diverge from the original telling, modified by drunken campfire tales of bronze age goat herders, then bastardised by an anti Roman anarchist/terrorists Hebrew cult and later adapted/adopted as justification for murder by a war lord, thief and child abuser is not really my problem, the fact remains they are stories of the same god.

So you are saying that Islam that has 2 tribal sects and Judaism that has 4 tribal sects are some how more tribal than christian that has 48000+ tribal sects? Is that Davesworld logic or have you just made it up?

Here is a little example experiment you can do. Draw a dot (or blob) on a piece of paper. Draw a line from that dot, now split the line into 2 by drawing another line from it. Continue each of the lines for a while then split the original again by drawing another line from it. You now have 3 lines, the original and 2 offshoots... but crucially you remain with only 1 dot.

You could easily continue this process through the 2 sects of Islam (and 40 or 50 subsects), the 4 sects of Judaism and the almost 50,000 sects of christianity and still have only one dot.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#235450 Aug 27, 2014
Believer wrote:
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Jesus loves you!!
This I know cause the bible tells me so !
And you believe the babble is correct because you believe the babble is correct or because the babble says it is correct?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#235451 Aug 27, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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I'll take your judgment as a compliment.
Smile.
Take it how you will, it simply confirms your self delusion

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#235452 Aug 27, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You have alleged he was a practicing Christian repeatedly for years. He has been your piater boy for Christianity. You can't dance away frim that.
Lovey, you need to spend more time researching and less reacting. This allows for more neuron connections to be made with subsequent intelligence, knowledge, and understanding a result.
Emissions of force, or energy, follow the path of least resistance. Break out of the loop you are trapped in. Takes effort. You don't just float to the moon to study it, you have to concentrate a tremendous amount of energy and it to get there. Quit dreaming you "know" things. Dreams are done in an idle state.
No I have not, I have stated that he was born into a christian family, realised in christian tradition and followed and implemented christian ideas in his running of Germany, that he often spoke of his christianity and the reasons he did what he did. And of course he had Vatican backing and has never been excommunicated.

Now where have I stated he was a practicing christian, you are spending too much time listening to bucks lies rather than understanding reality

Another davesworld irrelevance...meant as an insult because he can’t think of anything relevant to throw.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#235453 Aug 27, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
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I guess your grandfather personally told you this story? After he was shot dead?
And this French resistance girl decided to go to the UK and find your grandfathers relatives and tell them this story?
Even though for the sake of the spy tradecraft she really didn’t know your grandfathers real name?
Knowing that all US troops wear their name on their combat uniforms or wear dog tags for identification purposes?
She did this instead of reporting this alleged rape to US authorities?
This story is documented where? Just here?
Not in any official document?
Not in a court martial legal brief?
How patriotic is believing a lie?
But please let me answer your question about patriotic rape.
In order for it to have been a patriotic rape it would have had to been ordered by Military Command. The US military has a code of conduct that they are required to abide by or face prosecution. And in those days a soldier could be executed for war crimes against civilians.
So there's no such thing as a patriotic rape.
Most of these US soldiers that went and fought in Europe were law abiding respectful individuals that had mothers, sisters, wife’s, girlfriends, family and friends that were women.
If there was any validity in your made up story. Those soldiers in this fictitious story should have been given a fair trail and then face the repercussions if they were guilty.
You insolent and ignorant dumb fook, this French resistance girl is my grandmother, she was 2 months pregnant with my father when my grandfather was shot. But good of you to try excusing the atrocities of your fellow countrymen that you know fook all about, very patriotic, very christian

You are a true godbot,- I am not looking so I cannot see so it does not exist

Yes it must have been real easy to pick out 6 individuals from several thousand during a constantly moving invasion and for military commanders to take the word of one French woman agains 6 good patriotic Americans.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#235454 Aug 27, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Now we have come full circle to this forum’s subject.
“Atheism requires as much faith as religion?”
We are being asked to believe based on the evidence you presented?
And that evidence is this, you said it was so?[rolling eyes]
Wow that’s pretty damning evidence. But I think I’ll pass on your evidence because you said it was so.
I did not say E=MC^2, that was Einstein, clever fellow, far greater intelligence than you mind you that’s not difficult... And I find it extremely amusing that you actually use the results of that equation to attempt to discredit it, so typically hypocritical you are.

You are a true godbot,- I am not looking so I cannot see so it does not exist... how pathetic you are

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#235455 Aug 27, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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No I have not, I have stated that he was born into a christian family, realised in christian tradition and followed and implemented christian ideas in his running of Germany, that he often spoke of his christianity and the reasons he did what he did. And of course he had Vatican backing and has never been excommunicated.
Now where have I stated he was a practicing christian, you are spending too much time listening to bucks lies rather than understanding reality
Another davesworld irrelevance...meant as an insult because he can’t think of anything relevant to throw.
And I keep asking you to show what New Testament verses Hitler followed if he were a true Christ-follower (Christian). You can't.

The only thing you have proved is what happens when someone becomes a 'rational atheist' oxymoron.

SMile.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#235456 Aug 27, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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And you believe the babble is correct because you believe the babble is correct or because the babble says it is correct?
The person likely has never read something called "the babble".

Unless you are referring to your comments as babble, in which case, I agree.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#235457 Aug 27, 2014
I am right wrote:
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Did you know that if God and the Bible were still talked about each day before school starts that our world would not be in shambles like you cretinous atheists have done to it?
Atheism was the beginning of the end of the best country that ever existed. You are the typical moron that was force fed the lies of atheism and its ensuing hopelessness and shame.
Now go crawl back under your mossy-bottomed rock......but before you stop reading, hear this you scumbitch........
You are a pathetic lying and dishonest atheist that displays monotonous lies and deception with every post......and I bet you never really think before you blab your repugnant thoughts on this international forum.
So you have no excuse for lying other than you indoctrinated ignorance and hatred... Thank you for admitting it.

Do you have any evidence for this? Nope, just personal guesswork, rather like your religion really.

Best country? Which is that?(or was that) are you talking about the only country that ever used nuclear weapons in anger? Or the one that caused the 2007/8 worldwide recession? Oh same one, silly me for trying to confuse you.

What lies of atheism, that you god committed the first recorded genocide, no that’s not atheist teaching.(What is atheist teaching anyway? You mean not christian home school teaching?) How about that your god murdered children, no that’s not atheist teaching either. So how about that your god condones murder and theft and rape and slavery... nope also not atheist teaching, but all biblical teaching.

You were born without belief in god, by some definitions that means you were born atheist

Hitler - christian, Stalin – christian, Pol pot – 12 years of christian education seems like you also have learned hatred from you babble. I am sure there are many other christians that will welcome you.

BTW, I do not lie, I have no god to lie for and I have no religion to hate other human beings in the name of and of course this my dear is a PUBLIC forum, have you ever considered the word PUBLIC?

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#235458 Aug 27, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
Conversation with God:
Was my mother a sinner?
God: yes
What did she do?
God: she was born
So being born is automatically a sin?
God: yes
Why did you do that?
God: Dad and I agreed she owes us for giving her life
Why didn't you create her perfect without any defect?
God: and give up my master creation of hell ? are you kidding? Even gods have a Caveat every now and then. Anymore questions?
No thank you, you have confirmed you are inferior Gods, I will appeal to Zeus to pardon you for your many sins.
I think the idea that we're all born in sin, is because of the act we're all the result of. Maybe testube babies should be the exception.

Then there was the Original Sin, [email protected] apple!

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#235459 Aug 27, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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No I have not, I have stated that he was born into a christian family, realised in christian tradition and followed and implemented christian ideas in his running of Germany, that he often spoke of his christianity and the reasons he did what he did. And of course he had Vatican backing and has never been excommunicated.
Now where have I stated he was a practicing christian, you are spending too much time listening to bucks lies rather than understanding reality
Another davesworld irrelevance...meant as an insult because he can’t think of anything relevant to throw.
"implemented Christian ideas"

How Hitler's Forces Planned To Destroy German Christianity
By JOE SHARKEY
New York Times
Published: January 13, 2002

"...summarizes the Nazi plan to subvert and destroy German Christianity, which it calls an integral part of the National Socialist scheme of world conquest.''

''It came out of discussions among an inner circle comprised of Hitler himself, other top Nazi leaders including the propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels, and a collection of party enforcers..."

"...built on many millions of pages of supporting evidence: documents, summaries, notes and memos collected by investigators".

Christine: "implemented Christian ideas"

.....Bwahahahahhahahahhahahaha hahhahahaaaaaaaa....

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#235460 Aug 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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No I'm not.
I'm using what you think is logic - stating that once a person becomes a Christian, they are forever a Christian.
Just like you and all the other Christians here that call themselves atheist. According to you, you're all still Christians.
It's the logic you apply to people like Hitler and Stalin, arguing that because they were once Christian, they always were.
If you think you know how I think then you are more delusional than I gave you credit for.

I am still classed a christian by the christian church (and by you apparently) and as far as I can ascertain there is no way that I can be expunged from their records therefore as far as christianity is concerned I remain a christian. Unless of course I am for some reason excommunicated (oh that’s catholic so I can’t even get out that way)

Once? Once...? To his dying day Stalin was christian, in his later years he spoke about this with and his belief in Christ with daughter (and others). And Hitler often wrote and publically spoke about his beliefs in god and Christ and the reason why he murdered 6 million jews.

No amount of the doctoring of history because it does not suit christian American sensibilities is going to change fact

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#235461 Aug 27, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Do you have any evidence for this?

BTW, I do not lie,...
...Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahahh ahahahhaaaaaaaaa....

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#235462 Aug 27, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Hitler - christian, Stalin – christian, Pol pot...
BTW, I do not lie,...
...Bwhaahahhahahahahhahahahaha hahahaaaaa...

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