Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#234015 Jul 31, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
Theism for dummies...
Even morons like Buck.
www.pbs.org/.../theism-body.html
Theism. Belief in the existence of a divine reality; usually referring to monotheism (one God), as opposed to pantheism.
***superstition
1. a belief or notion, not based on reason or knowledge, in or of the ominous significance of a particular thing, circumstance, occurrence, proceeding, or the like.
2. a system or collection of such beliefs.
3. a custom or act based on such a belief.
***faith
1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms: trust, belief, confidence, conviction;
antonyms: mistrust
2.
strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
synonyms: religion, church, sect, denomination,(religious) persuasion,(religious) belief, ideology, creed, teaching, doctrine.
***Religion
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
synonyms: faith, belief, worship, creed;
a particular system of faith and worship.
plural noun: religions
"the world's great religions"
a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
"consumerism is the new religion"
*** atheism
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
synonyms: nonbelief, disbelief, unbelief, irreligion, skepticism, doubt, agnosticism;
Superstition = religion = Gods = faith
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
I didn't see something in there which supports your equating of theism with a particular religion.

Maybe you're trying to prove my point.

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#234016 Jul 31, 2014
Patrick wrote:
<quoted text>
Defensive as you should be after 4500 American lives lost In Iraq.
President Bush, who four years ago couldn’t identify a single mistake by his administration, on Monday ticked off a list of its shortcomings and disappointments,
ranging from failures to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq
to its oft-criticized response to Hurricane Katrina.
: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/... -
I'm only defensive about Bush to those who support the idiot we have in office now, or blame present difficulties on Bush.

I opposed the war in Iraq. I opposed several things Bush did.

Bush never tried to put blame on other Americans for his problems, and he believed in the idea of America as a great nation.

Not this president.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#234017 Jul 31, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
That is not my argument and you frigginbg well know it – here let me repeat my argument for the hard of thinking and the deliberate liars - again
E=MC^2 shows that the omnipotent god as described in KJV revelation 19:6 cannot exist in this universe at the same time as you.
Because that god eould have you in a bottle.

Lovey, you missed the infinite BS of the last few days, the finite universe identified by those who came up with that formula, and the passing out of brains and emotional restraint.

But I bet you got a fine looking ass.

:-)

Since: Sep 08

United States

#234018 Jul 31, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Time is a constructive concept. You cannot trip over it.
It is a way to catologue, or order physical events, and units of quantity are assigned in linear fashion.
You don't see past time, or any time, but the difference in past time and future time is that it is detected, recorded, or remembered in it's association with events.
If you want to claim future time exists, you may present the physical future events with which you detected such time.
If you lived in the future and came back here to provide that for us, I suspect you could make lots of money on the movie rights.
Hollywood loves fantasies like the one you live n.
Time doesn't start until you are doing something. It is a relative thing. Otherwise it is a rumor you heard about.

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#234019 Jul 31, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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So calenders are fictitious now are they? Appointments made for the future useless and there is no morrow?
Good heavens, no wonder you Christians are so afterlife conscious, you are already half dead!
....a calender is not time. An appointment is not time.

....

<sigh>

Here's somethiing for you:

$100,000.

Do you see it?

Now spend it.

...

<sigh>

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#234020 Jul 31, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Time doesn't start until you are doing something. It is a relative thing. Otherwise it is a rumor you heard about.
Dave is correct again.

Hey Dave, why are atheists so prone to preposterous beliefs?

I mean, it seems there is only one unprovable idea they reject.

Thoughts?
Patrick

United States

#234021 Jul 31, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Dave is correct again.
Hey Dave, why are atheists so prone to preposterous beliefs?
I mean, it seems there is only one unprovable idea they reject.
Thoughts?
Rather neutral on atheists and Christians as have good friends on each persuasion.
Are you attempting to be an embarrassment to your side?

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#234022 Jul 31, 2014
Patrick wrote:
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Rather neutral on atheists and Christians as have good friends on each persuasion.
Are you attempting to be an embarrassment to your side?
I dish out the embarrassment around here, Patrick.

I used your name properly because you finally asked a relevant question.

Answer is I'm neither a Christian nor an atheist.

On alternating occasions, I embarrass both.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#234023 Jul 31, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Because that god eould have you in a bottle.
Lovey, you missed the infinite BS of the last few days, the finite universe identified by those who came up with that formula, and the passing out of brains and emotional restraint.
But I bet you got a fine looking ass.
:-)
What god? Show me a god, or even any evidence of a god then you may actually have an argument, until that time what you have is a big fat nothing.

You talking about bucks infinite apples?

So I am told by connoisseurs but I’m not really one to judge.

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#234024 Jul 31, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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What god? Show me a god, or even any evidence of a god then you may actually have an argument, until that time what you have is a big fat nothing.
You talking about bucks infinite apples?
So I am told by connoisseurs but I’m not really one to judge.
Show us a black hole.

You guys talk about them all the time.

Point one out.

Since: Sep 08

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#234025 Jul 31, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Dave is correct again.
Hey Dave, why are atheists so prone to preposterous beliefs?
I mean, it seems there is only one unprovable idea they reject.
Thoughts?
Perhaps something to do with their failures as human beings, the Topix atheists, that is. I was atheist most of my life when they had some class and intelligence.

Justification and no accountability. Little do they understand they are confusing what a supreme being expects of them versus what men say is expected of them, in God's, or secular scientific humanism's name. They will both condemn you for not submitting to their proclaimed right way of thinking.

They got head and emotional issues.

Or something like that.
Eagle 12

League City, TX

#234026 Jul 31, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm only defensive about Bush to those who support the idiot we have in office now, or blame present difficulties on Bush.
I opposed the war in Iraq. I opposed several things Bush did.
Bush never tried to put blame on other Americans for his problems, and he believed in the idea of America as a great nation.
Not this president.
Looking back Saddam was trying to make the world believe he had weapons of mass destruction. He would still be in power if he would have cooperated with the UN weapon inspectors.

During the last presidential election Mitt Romney picked the wrong running mate. He had a chance to make history and select a qualified Hispanic or a woman. Nope, he selects a good ole white boy who was too scary for the independents. Not that Paul Ryan is a bad man he was just too financially conservative to garner the win for Romney.

Back to our Dear President Obama, He was ill qualified for the office of the President. Just because he was a good bull sh*tter and friends with Oprah people voted for him. The American people didn’t want a president they wanted a prom queen and that’s what they got.

I hate the direction this nation is going. It’s broke financially and morally thanks to Obama’s leadership. He can’t get a handle on the violence in Chicago or control the borders. Gun violence has escalated because of his political parties inept leadership.

A lot of our nations violent gun culture can be attributed to the 40 plus years of violent movies from the American Movie Industry. It’s not lawful gun owners but the deranged individuals that feed off of Hollywood’s violence. And what has Obama done to make this nation safer?

President Bush may have been a good President had he not been distracted by 911. Anyway I agree with you we shouldn’t have gone back to Iraq. But like I said Saddam didn't help his cause.

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#234027 Jul 31, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps something to do with their failures as human beings, the Topix atheists, that is. I was atheist most of my life when they had some class and intelligence.
Justification and no accountability. Little do they understand they are confusing what a supreme being expects of them versus what men say is expected of them, in God's, or secular scientific humanism's name. They will both condemn you for not submitting to their proclaimed right way of thinking.
They got head and emotional issues.
Or something like that.
"ego"

"edging-god-out"

I guess if you want to maintain belief that there is nothing beyond the physical, it helps to believe the physical is infinite.

Even if it means believing two contradictory things at once.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#234028 Jul 31, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Show us a black hole.
You guys talk about them all the time.
Point one out.
That just shows you do not understand physics – i.e. light cannot escape from a black hole therefore you cannot see light from a black hole, hence you will not see a black hole.

However, the effects of a black hole can be seen
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bla...
Never mind the cloud, take a look at the orbits (and speed) of the suns caught in the black holes gravity. Never seen but the only possible explanations are 1/ a super massive gravity source is effecting those millions of times earth mass objects or 2/ your god is a lousy billiard player

How about light, you have never seen light yet you see your dick whenever to look at it? Sorry if that is a little too deep for you

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#234029 Jul 31, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Looking back Saddam was trying to make the world believe he had weapons of mass destruction. He would still be in power if he would have cooperated with the UN weapon inspectors.
During the last presidential election Mitt Romney picked the wrong running mate. He had a chance to make history and select a qualified Hispanic or a woman. Nope, he selects a good ole white boy who was too scary for the independents. Not that Paul Ryan is a bad man he was just too financially conservative to garner the win for Romney.
Back to our Dear President Obama, He was ill qualified for the office of the President. Just because he was a good bull sh*tter and friends with Oprah people voted for him. The American people didn’t want a president they wanted a prom queen and that’s what they got.
I hate the direction this nation is going. It’s broke financially and morally thanks to Obama’s leadership. He can’t get a handle on the violence in Chicago or control the borders. Gun violence has escalated because of his political parties inept leadership.
A lot of our nations violent gun culture can be attributed to the 40 plus years of violent movies from the American Movie Industry. It’s not lawful gun owners but the deranged individuals that feed off of Hollywood’s violence. And what has Obama done to make this nation safer?
President Bush may have been a good President had he not been distracted by 911. Anyway I agree with you we shouldn’t have gone back to Iraq. But like I said Saddam didn't help his cause.
I agree with you on parts.

Romney chose an excellent running mate for the economic times we were in.

If you have to pick a token minority to win, what's the point.

Romney is the best qualified republican candidate since Reagan, and likely would have been a very competent president. He proved his grasp of issues dwarfed that of Obama.

The people chose. And they deserve the result.

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#234030 Jul 31, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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That just shows you do not understand physics – i.e. light cannot escape from a black hole therefore you cannot see light from a black hole, hence you will not see a black hole.
However, the effects of a black hole can be seen
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bla...
Never mind the cloud, take a look at the orbits (and speed) of the suns caught in the black holes gravity. Never seen but the only possible explanations are 1/ a super massive gravity source is effecting those millions of times earth mass objects or 2/ your god is a lousy billiard player
How about light, you have never seen light yet you see your dick whenever to look at it? Sorry if that is a little too deep for you
I see.

You cannot demonstrate the existence of black holes; you deduce them.

But wait. On the subject of gods, you asked someone to "show me a god".

So you want an easier standard for your claims.

By the way, Stephen Hawking says black holes do not exist.

I think he's a physicist or something, isn't he?

NATURE | NEWS
Stephen Hawking:'There are no black holes'
Zeeya Merali
24 January 2014

Stephen Hawking Says Black Holes Don't Exist
By Rida Ahmed | Jan 25, 2014 10:49 AM EST

Stephen Hawking Thinks Black Holes Don’t Exist
And he's been trying to tell the rest of us for a decade

By Colin Schultz
smithsonian.com
January 24, 2014
__________

Since you claim I know nothing about physics, I assume you will say the same for Hawking.

Do you ever tire of me kicking your ass?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#234031 Jul 31, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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I didn't say you said I was wrong. I said you implied I was wrong.
Then I asked "Which is it?", which implies a request for clarification, which you say you are in favor of.
I'm not sure - what do you think you are? Right or wrong?

FYI - I can disagree all day long - if I so choose. Requiring me to define "which is it?" isn't up to me - because I've never been able to provide clear details (except what I've already provided) on 'infinity', but only using scientific information as my guide.

But since you differ in your perception than mine, you really don't have an definitive answer to it, either, huh?.

Thanks for responding.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#234032 Jul 31, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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He spent 4 posts explaining what he meant, and none of them agreed with what you and I say about it.
It was clear what he meant. He was just wrong.
Actually no. I posted responses to other posts.

It is sort of odd that you are still trying to justify your viewpoint.

*shrugs*

“let's do this thang!”

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#234033 Jul 31, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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The age of the complimentary measuring system(S) has nothing to do with the accuracy of the measuring system(S)- or perhaps you can show an alternative scenario using ancient and complimentary measuring systems that can be validated with observed facts?
And I love you avatar that indicates you are crap in bed
yes - i can prove that i'm not a crap in bed whenever your ready to conduct our 'test';-)

(i don't know why i do, but i like you!:)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#234034 Jul 31, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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The future has not happened. Time occurs as it happens.
Still trying to promote a finite entity?

"The future has not happened."
- incorrect again.
- A supernova that occurred in the past requires 'time' to pass in order for the light to extend to our eyes. When the supernova occurred - it was in the past, but it took "time" into the future for us to finally see it. In other words, at the time of the explosion - only the local vicinity could have actually witnessed it in real-time......but in the future, we were able to see it occur.

But since you live in the past - it appears you can't get perceive this angle of thought.

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