Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#233765 Jul 29, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't see it that way.
I'm with John Locke.
I believe in a social contract as the foundation of a society.
It's a whole 'nuther thing from your house.
Instead of lashing out at me, think about it.
The social contract says we are a sovereign nation.

"independent authority and the right to govern itself"

We control our borders, not Mexico, Honduras, or Guatemala.

You control the borders of your home, not the people across the street.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#233766 Jul 29, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
"Since the early days,[the church] has thrown itself violently against every effort to liberate the body and mind of man. It has been, at all times and everywhere, the habitual and incorrigible defender of bad governments, bad laws, bad social theories, bad institutions. It was, for centuries, an apologist for slavery, as it was an apologist for the divine right of kings." ~H.L Mencken
"Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable ... A man full of faith is simply one who has lost (or never had) the capacity for clear and realistic thought. He is not a mere ass: he is actually ill." ~H.L. Mencken
"God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them above their betters." ~H.L. Mencken
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration--courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth." ~H.L. Mencken
Obviously, when church groups adopt handicapped orphans, it's a power trip.

Mencken was a fool.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233767 Jul 29, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
"Since the early days,[the church] has thrown itself violently against every effort to liberate the body and mind of man. It has been, at all times and everywhere, the habitual and incorrigible defender of bad governments, bad laws, bad social theories, bad institutions. It was, for centuries, an apologist for slavery, as it was an apologist for the divine right of kings." ~H.L Mencken
"Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable ... A man full of faith is simply one who has lost (or never had) the capacity for clear and realistic thought. He is not a mere ass: he is actually ill." ~H.L. Mencken
"God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them above their betters." ~H.L. Mencken
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration--courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth." ~H.L. Mencken
Amusing, you appear to worship the words of a man that believes the undisciplined inner brat of mankind should be allowed to run wild.
Patrick

Newberry, SC

#233768 Jul 29, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
"Since the early days,[the church] has thrown itself violently against every effort to liberate the body and mind of man. It has been, at all times and everywhere, the habitual and incorrigible defender of bad governments, bad laws, bad social theories, bad institutions. It was, for centuries, an apologist for slavery, as it was an apologist for the divine right of kings." ~H.L Mencken
"Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable ... A man full of faith is simply one who has lost (or never had) the capacity for clear and realistic thought. He is not a mere ass: he is actually ill." ~H.L. Mencken
"God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them above their betters." ~H.L. Mencken
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration--courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth." ~H.L. Mencken
Occasionally funny ....During the Great Depression, Mencken did not support the New Deal. This cost him popularity, as did his strong reservations regarding U.S. participation in World War II, and his overt contempt for President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#233769 Jul 29, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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It's going to be interesting to see what happens, with ISIS on the warpath now. To think that area was once the Cradle of Civilization.
The funny part is the least funny, all these radical groups popping up want claim to being the most radical. Some of them appear, they are washed away unto obscurity. Actually I just had a eureka moment. All these must be splinter groups, they are not a faceless and united cause,
cull the herd by cutting off the head of the snake.
The ones to fear the most, can't be killed this way , So it remains to be seen with ISIS.
The one who calls himself Ibrahim is the target.
Eagle 12

League City, TX

#233770 Jul 29, 2014
The court has ruled the historic cross-beam will be allowed to stay at the world trade center museum. Atheist wanted this cross-beam tossed because it became a symbol of hope to many after the 911 attacks. It stood above the ashes of a brazen and horrific attack.

There must have been a million of these beams that crossed one another lying in the ruble. A symbol of hope versus no symbol of hope. The courts ruled in favor of letting the historic symbol of hope stand versus the Atheist insistence of hopelessness.

Without hope you have nothing and that’s what Atheist wanted us to have, nothing. But just as it stood out from the ashes today it stands defiant of hopelessness as it has for centuries.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#233771 Jul 29, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
The court has ruled the historic cross-beam will be allowed to stay at the world trade center museum. Atheist wanted this cross-beam tossed because it became a symbol of hope to many after the 911 attacks. It stood above the ashes of a brazen and horrific attack.
There must have been a million of these beams that crossed one another lying in the ruble. A symbol of hope versus no symbol of hope. The courts ruled in favor of letting the historic symbol of hope stand versus the Atheist insistence of hopelessness.
Without hope you have nothing and that’s what Atheist wanted us to have, nothing. But just as it stood out from the ashes today it stands defiant of hopelessness as it has for centuries.
The atheist said two broken beams violate their rights.

Now that they lost, I can only imagine the suffering.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#233772 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Beyond the observable universe you idiot, but if you had been following our conversation..
you would know what was said.
Nothing can be infinite, in the observable or non-observable universe.

If it has a physical dimension, it is not infinite.

This has been proven over and over.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#233773 Jul 29, 2014
Patrick wrote:
ooops :-)
Wrong place. Wrong time. Dinosaurs didn't have to die off, but the space impact that blasted the Earth some 66 million years ago arrived at a most inopportune moment for the long-time rulers of the planet, according to a report released Monday.
There's never a good time for an asteroid impact, of course, but debates have roiled among scholars for decades over whether volcanoes or a long-running decline in species may have played a bigger role in the demise of the dinosaurs.
Now a Biological Reviews journal report concludes that the asteroid or comet that created the Yucatan's Chicxulub crater was indeed the likely leading culprit. Other factors, most notably a vulnerable sub-population of big plant eaters, essentially left the dinosaurs ripe for the asteroid wipe-out.
"If the asteroid hit five million years later or earlier, the dinosaurs might still be around," says paleontologist Stephen Brusatte of the United Kingdom's University of Edinburgh, a member of the report panel that included experts from leading dinosaur museums and universities worldwide. "An impact would have been horrible for them, but they had survived dips and dives for more than 150 million years," he says.
At least six miles (ten kilometers) wide, the Chicxulub impact object left a crater some 110 to 180 miles (177 to 290 kilometers) wide and 12 miles (19 kilometers) deep beneath Mexico's Yucatan peninsula and the Gulf of Mexico.
"Dinosaurs didn't have to die off, but the space impact that blasted the Earth some 66 million years ago arrived at a most inopportune moment for the long-time rulers of the planet..."

you mean the flood of Noah's day - glad we're on the same page now!

those gaytheist f*s will believe ANYTHING BUT documented history when it includes our Creator!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#233774 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
The social contract says we are a sovereign nation.
"independent authority and the right to govern itself"
We control our borders, not Mexico, Honduras, or Guatemala.
You control the borders of your home, not the people across the street.
correction: THE WIVES of gaytheists control their homes and the men aren't even allowed to pee standing up!;-)

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#233775 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing can be infinite, in the observable or non-observable universe.
If it has a physical dimension, it is not infinite.
This has been proven over and over.
Buck there is no assignable dimension to the unobservable.
That's exactly the same as looking at the surface of the water and then saying,
Its not deep here, without a single measurement. Theists are great with this logic though,
because they simply believe things without evidence.
In the case of the universe, all the evidence shows us its dimension is infinite.
Your belief is trumped in the face of general relativity and event horizons.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#233776 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Buck there is no assignable dimension to the unobservable.
That's exactly the same as looking at the surface of the water and then saying,
Its not deep here, without a single measurement. Theists are great with this logic though,
because they simply believe things without evidence.
In the case of the universe, all the evidence shows us its dimension is infinite.
Your belief is trumped in the face of general relativity and event horizons.
The water may be deep or shallow, nobody can say if they can't see the bottom or measure it.

But we know the depth is finite.

Every physical dimension is finite.

You are absurd.

It's funny, really.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#233777 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Buck there is no assignable dimension to the unobservable.
If it's unobservable, how do you know it exceeds finite dimension?

Even if exceeding finite dimension were possible, which it is not.

Your problem is you don't know what infiniite means. You are using it the same way cosmologists use it when they throw the meaning of the term out and substitute it for "unknown".

On strict analysis, that practice is shown to be wrong by more serious mathematicians and physicists.

Your infinite universe sounds so grand. But it's bull shit.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#233778 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
I get it.
"You didn't build that"
Lol. Just so we're clear...

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/20...

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#233779 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:

The nerve of Fox - reporting accurately facts that are detrimental to the liberal story line.
When they report the weather, it's news. When they report facts, it's Faux News.

Go figure.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233780 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Buck there is no assignable dimension to the unobservable.
That's exactly the same as looking at the surface of the water and then saying,
Its not deep here, without a single measurement. Theists are great with this logic though,
because they simply believe things without evidence.
In the case of the universe, all the evidence shows us its dimension is infinite.
Your belief is trumped in the face of general relativity and event horizons.
Really now? All the evidence, eh?

How did they come up with the BBT, then? Or things like laws of thermodynamics?

The stuff you have been presenting has certain logical processes that are quite likely, however, you are inserting too many vague unknowns and coming up with a false model you trapped yourself into worshipping.

You have to turn those into a technology that works like any applied science before it becomes real.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#233781 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
The water may be deep or shallow, nobody can say if they can't see the bottom or measure it.
But we know the depth is finite.
Every physical dimension is finite.
You are absurd.
It's funny, really.
If what you say hold true you can tell us the sum of all time, till there is no more time.
Whats that number Buck?

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#233782 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
If it's unobservable, how do you know it exceeds finite dimension?
Even if exceeding finite dimension were possible, which it is not.
Your problem is you don't know what infiniite means. You are using it the same way cosmologists use it when they throw the meaning of the term out and substitute it for "unknown".
On strict analysis, that practice is shown to be wrong by more serious mathematicians and physicists.
Your infinite universe sounds so grand. But it's bull shit.
We are exceeding a finite dimension with every second that ticks. Et's 11:42 oop 11:43.
With space/time and time dilation and acceleration beyond c, infinity becomes the reality.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#233783 Jul 29, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Really now? All the evidence, eh?
How did they come up with the BBT, then? Or things like laws of thermodynamics?
The stuff you have been presenting has certain logical processes that are quite likely, however, you are inserting too many vague unknowns and coming up with a false model you trapped yourself into worshipping.
You have to turn those into a technology that works like any applied science before it becomes real.
I could be wrong, it's very possible I am.
Prove general relativity is wrong, and I am wrong.
Patrick

Newberry, SC

#233784 Jul 29, 2014
"Nothing can be infinite" except his posts of "Nothing can be infinite"
LOL

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