Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#232704 Jul 15, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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That's our Buck.
Often wrong, but never in doubt.
..But .....NEVER ....attack's ..

Using a " fake " ID

I respect , " Buck Crick " ..ID ..
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#232705 Jul 15, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I didn't actually make the claim that babies are born atheist. They're born with brains that are confused, ready for learning and not much else.
:)
...born ... innocent ...

Dickless ....get , with the program ..
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#232706 Jul 15, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
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Cocaine is God's way of telling you that you are making too much money.
Cocaine, crystal meth and alcohol are the gateway drugs to Christianity, second only to prison conversions.
It all makes sense now... AARRGGHH
Gay marriage and marijuana being legalized on the same day.
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man lays with another man he should stoned".
We're just interpreting it wrong!
Sean Hannity wouldn't lie, right?
..cocaine ..

THESE , CHILDREN ..are ..refugee's ...

WHITE AMERICA ..SUCKS ...

If , we don't take these kids ...

President Barack Obama ..is a little girl ..

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#232708 Jul 15, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
I think there is evidence of a creator. It's not the creator described in any of the Abrahamic religions.
I applaud you for this. I actually liked your description of your beliefs.
But I think an objective inquirer could conclude there is a creator. Some would conclude there is not.
Well, as a believer, you are going to think that your worldview is "normal and natural" and objectively real for all. That's a given.
There is evidence for both sides of the argument.
From which we can only draw inferences.

Anyways, clearly I disagree that both sides have evidence. I honestly don't see any evidence for deities - if I saw any at all, I'd have to conclude that my atheist position wasn't fully tenable and then I'd cease to be an atheist and become an agnostic or something.

But I understand that you see evidence. And I understand how belief and commitment to a worldview shape one's subjective reality such that evidence becomes invisible.
I am closer to the atheist view than the Christian view. I don't believe in a personal, interventionist God. But I believe there is something behind the curtain.
I told IANS once that I thought being an atheist is more rational than being a Christian.
I don't think he appreciated the degree of humility the statement required, given my background.
That was kind and honest of you. Once most people argue with someone else vehemently, including trading insults, it's pretty difficult to disturb our image of them.

But I thank you for the above.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#232709 Jul 15, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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"always been expanding"??
You mean infinite time in the past?
We could have never reached the present. Can't traverse infinite time.
Polymath's offerings were soundly defeated, folded, spindled, and spoliated.
I know you've made this argument before, but I don't agree. No matter how far back the past goes, the present is right now.

So, sorry, my money remains on Poly.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#232710 Jul 15, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...born ... innocent ...
Dickless ....get , with the program ..
Oh, sure, innocent then.

Breastless, I'm working on it.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#232712 Jul 16, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"atheism isn't a religion like Liberace wasn't gay" - Sir Wasup
Liberace, yes a deeply religious man and he was gay for sure – are all deeply religious men gay?

Is that why some people call you 'shirt lifter'?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#232713 Jul 16, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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No, matter cannot create itself.
That would require matter to exist before it exists.
You are very confused, Christine.
Maybe matter could create itself in infinity? Bwhahshahahahahahahahahha.....
You opinion is worthless. Me I will take the word of the people to study particle physics and quantum theory as opposed to a convict of little intelligence who has a home school PhD in buck knows best.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#232714 Jul 16, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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You know less about this than an infant. You have no idea when the laws of thermodynamics began to exist. None. Zero. No clue.
10e-34 of a second to begin forming to 10e-23 of a second to fully resolve.

Glad I could be of some help.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#232715 Jul 16, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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Explain how NOTHING, magically expanded. Radiation can't come from nothing, there can be no temperature since there is nothing to cause it
NOTHING CREATES NOTHING, that is a fact.
After you explain how you could be born christian

And how you god dunitwiv magic from nothing (read the babble), it says so right there on the very first page. Funny how you can assume god dunitwiv nothing and be perfectly happy with that but deny any other scenario.

No it is not fact, it is outdated understanding as it stood a few years ago, just like poof god dunitwiv magic stood a few thousand years ago... outdated, superseded by new understanding

I have no wish to waste my time explaining simply for you to ignore – as you have done before... often. I am here for my pleasure, not to waste my time on your ignorance. However if you really want to educate yourself there are many (at least 260 million) hits on google that will explain “something from nothing”. May I suggest you go for the scientific sites
https://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/
http://home.web.cern.ch/
or journals
http://www.newscientist.com/
http://www.scientificamerican.com/
rather than the blogs and rap music sites.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#232716 Jul 16, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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Thank you, at least someone has some intelligence here besides me
Ignorance and stupidity can never be counted as intelligence

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#232717 Jul 16, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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saying a liberal doesn't lie is like saying Elton John isn't gay
Why are you fascinated with gays?

Would be just as valid to say – saying godbots are lying idiots is like saying waaasssuuup

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#232718 Jul 16, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Debating a front linesman that had his head bashed in by a thousand head butts, and was shot dead but too dumb to know it, is an exorcize in futility. Buck should have gave up everything but
football, he was good at that. Now he us just Gonad the barbarian.
I never got into American football, more a rugby person myself, was buck good at it or was he a legend in his own mind?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#232719 Jul 16, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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I never got into American football, more a rugby person myself, was buck good at it or was he a legend in his own mind?
Coach Bill Curry said I had the most impressive body he had seen - college or pro.

I'm sure you would agree.

Even more legendary than my football was my bar fights.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#232720 Jul 16, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I know you've made this argument before, but I don't agree. No matter how far back the past goes, the present is right now.
So, sorry, my money remains on Poly.
The present proves the past is not infinite.

If the past were infinite, an infinite amount of time has been traversed to reach the present.

Not possible.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#232721 Jul 16, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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You opinion is worthless. Me I will take the word of the people to study particle physics and quantum theory as opposed to a convict of little intelligence who has a home school PhD in buck knows best.
I see. If a physicist says something is both existent and nonexistent, you take his word.

Your choice.

I'm a bit more skeptical. I say something cannot be both "A" and "non-A".

I think I'm on solid ground with that.
Patrick

United States

#232722 Jul 16, 2014
Science appears to describe accurately the material word.
Metaphysical ideas can not be proved.
Thus each person decides for himself or herself in a limited life time.
Philosophical issue tied to our common mortality.

Trolls seem rather upset when their ideas are not accepted?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#232723 Jul 16, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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Where have the good guys gone?
The Roger Taneys.
Those who approved of slavery.
Oh the memories.
I'm happy the Republicans were able to defeat slavery, and pass civil rights for minorities.

Albeit with considerable opposition from democrats - like Bill Clinton's idol, Fullbright, and Al Gore's daddy.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#232724 Jul 16, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Coach Bill Curry said I had the most impressive body he had seen - college or pro.
I'm sure you would agree.
Even more legendary than my football was my bar fights.
Perhaps he fancied a bit of rough
I am not into Neanderthal bodies, sorry.
Why do you have to bring violence into it, it’s not clever and it’s not funny, in fact it is really quite sad, sickening even.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#232725 Jul 16, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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I see. If a physicist says something is both existent and nonexistent, you take his word.
Your choice.
I'm a bit more skeptical. I say something cannot be both "A" and "non-A".
I think I'm on solid ground with that.
If several physics independently come to the same conclusion based in the data then yes.

And now we have yet another buckism – surely B is non A

What you think is irrelevant

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