Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231883 Jul 6, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..??..What are you trying to say ' exactly "..??
Are you insinuating , that I failed to understand the point..??
Yes.

Well done!

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231884 Jul 6, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
wrote:
How can a 33 year old man, leave his two year old in a hot car while he sat in air conditioning office sexting 16 year olds?
The case in Georgia enrages me. This is what happens when people don’t have a moral compass and do whatever they want.
There’s no fear of God and no fear of judgment. I hope Georgians do the right thing to this narcissistic accused murder.
Totally. It's repulsive in the extreme - that poor, poor baby.

As Vonnegut would say "he's up in Heaven now."

Anyways, that baby-killing man is a Christian, yes? Why doesn't he fear your deity?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231885 Jul 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
That was my point - that homosexuality did not evolve for procreation, and since procreation is of fundamental evolutionary focus, even to being alleged as the ONLY Darwinian purpose for living, you and those you cite then have to make up rationalizations for why homosexuality evolved.
This is where your lack of education causes you issues. Not a single evolutionary theorist makes the straw man argument you post above - "... procreation is of fundamental evolutionary focus..."

You, Buck, are making exactly the same mistake the eugenics people - i.e., Herbert Spencer - and the sociobiologists made.

Sorry, baby, evolutionary theory is quite a bit more advanced than that.

You claimed to have a PhD in microbiology. Would you like to apologize for that lie now?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231886 Jul 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
I produced the theory, as well as the testable hyposthesis - multiple times.
You are still a liar.
You made the above claim multiple times all without ever once producing the theory.

But, sure, prove me a liar - produce the theory if you can.

If you don't, everyone here will know you are a liar.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231887 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
I've forgotten more about biological science than you've ever known. I've destroyed every argument you've put forth about biology and ridiculed you for your ridiculous lie that you have a PhD in microbiology - conveniently, after I started grilling you, you stopped bring that up.
Same sex sexual behavior is a normal behavior in primates and humans. It's not a disease, it's not abnormal.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Is rape a "normal" behavior in primates and humans?
So, why are you asking this question? Afraid of the topic we are on?
Yep, you sure did great arguing with me.
Thanks. I know.
You might not be aware I saved the posts where you had to back down on points of contention with me...
Like when you claimed ID supporters publish no peer-reviewed research; or when you claimed ID scientists do no laboratory research, or when I posted the scientific theory of ID as you claim I did not, etc.....
Would you like me to re-post them and expose you as lying now?
Make sure you post my entire responses to that conversation - I have no issues admitting that a very few people who continue to do research (that does not support ID) believe their research supports ID. I was mistaken here.

Once again, you are, perhaps purposefully, ignoring the end of our discussion where I demonstrated that their research does not, in any way whatsoever, support their ID notions.

And where I posted their own writing where they admit to not having an ID theory.

Oh! Here it is, from the ID people themselves:

"Scientists affiliated with Biologic Institute are working from the idea that life appears to have been designed because it really was designed. That’s a hypothesis, not a theory, and while it obviously has huge philosophical implications (made even more huge by the the fact it appears to be correct) it doesn’t do much for biology if left at that."

http://www.biologicinstitute.org/about

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231888 Jul 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm too busy educating you, Sweetie. Indeed, scientists might "deem" homosexuality to be normal behavior - and that's the problem. They abandon science when they do so, and start making value judgements.
Wow. You just made a positive claim here - ok, demonstrate that homosexuality is not normal behavior. Please use evidence and don't just spout nonsense as per the Buck way.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231889 Jul 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
By analyzing the opposing proposition and pointing out contradictions, fallacies, and falsehoods contained therein.
You find yourself on the receiving end of the aforementioned, even as we speak.
You haven't actually done anything of the sort.

So far, all you've presented are straw man fallacies, a ton of BS and a bunch of insults. You're pretty good at insulting, I'll give you that. Cunning, even. Educated? Nope.
CunningLinguist

Windermere, FL

#231890 Jul 6, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>This actually adds credibility to the Bible and God ..how else could a mere myth raise such ire in the likes of you ...
and item 2 , you claim the Bible is horrendous ..Are you claiming that there is right and wrong , and we humans do know the difference ..?
Why , would you make such a bold statement , if morality was not in fact objective , rather than subjective ...Hmmm..
You can not assert something is evil , and in the same breath evil does not exist ...
Evil is a theological concept and it remains your 'god' problem.
After all... your boy created it didn't he?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evi...

"It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand." ~Mark Twain

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is as deep and profound as yours.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#231891 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
So, why are you asking this question? Afraid of the topic we are on?
No, I asked it because it can elucidate the topic we are on.

Why didn't you answer it?

Since: May 10

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#231892 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. You just made a positive claim here - ok, demonstrate that homosexuality is not normal behavior. Please use evidence and don't just spout nonsense as per the Buck way.
I didn't claim it is not normal behavior.

What I claimed, and I am correct, is that it is not proper science to pronounce a judgement on a controversial subject, deeming a particular behavior as "normal" with no biological basis for doing so, particularly when their own biological theory diminishes its validity.

. I also contend that their criteria for such a pronouncement, aside from being unscientific and biased, would sweep in other behaviors they would, by no means, "deem" as normal, thus exposing you (and them) as the moral hypocrites you are.

Since: May 10

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#231893 Jul 6, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>

Evil is a theological concept and it remains your 'god' problem.
So then "good" is a theological concept, right?

When someone does good for another, that's just a theory, it didn't necessarily happen, right?

You could have never done good before you studied theology, right?

I learn so much from you atheist dudes - Good and evil comes from theology.

Thanks, man.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#231894 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
So, why are you asking this question? Afraid of the topic we are on?
<quoted text>
Thanks. I know.
<quoted text>
Make sure you post my entire responses to that conversation - I have no issues admitting that a very few people who continue to do research (that does not support ID) believe their research supports ID. I was mistaken here.
Once again, you are, perhaps purposefully, ignoring the end of our discussion where I demonstrated that their research does not, in any way whatsoever, support their ID notions.
And where I posted their own writing where they admit to not having an ID theory.
Oh! Here it is, from the ID people themselves:
"Scientists affiliated with Biologic Institute are working from the idea that life appears to have been designed because it really was designed. That’s a hypothesis, not a theory, and while it obviously has huge philosophical implications (made even more huge by the the fact it appears to be correct) it doesn’t do much for biology if left at that."
http://www.biologicinstitute.org/about
I labeled ID a hypothesis years ago on these pages. Big deal.

Scientists, in scientific literature, use the terms interchangeably, though technically they are not.

That's how they announce a new "theory".

Did you have a point?

Since: May 10

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#231895 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. You just made a positive claim here - ok, demonstrate that homosexuality is not normal behavior. Please use evidence and don't just spout nonsense as per the Buck way.
Why won't you answer whether rape in primates and humans is normal behavior?

Second question:

Is all normal behavior in primates also normal in humans?

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#231896 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
....
PhD in microbiology - conveniently, after I started grilling you, you stopped bring that up.
....
I'm pretty sure he has one from Ed's School of Macramé and Microbiology.

He's listed there as one of their graduates.

OK. He's listed there as their one graduate. Still....

Good to see you HFY.

Since: May 10

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#231897 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>

Not a single evolutionary theorist makes the straw man argument you post above - "... procreation is of fundamental evolutionary focus..."
Oh, really?

“We are survival machines; robot vehicles blindly programmed to preserve the selfish molecules known as genes. This is a truth which still fills me with astonishment. Though I have known it for years, I never seem to get fully used to it.”

&#8213; Richard Dawkins, The Selfish Gene

Besides Richard Dawkins, other theorists who subscribe to the Selfish Gene Theory:

George C. Williams, John Maynard Smith, George R. Price, Robert Trivers, David Haig, Helena Cronin, David Hull, Philip Kitcher, and Daniel C. Dennett.

Do you ever tire of losing?

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#231898 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
No. Hitler liked Herbert Spencer's social darwinism.
Again, why are you lying here?
Lies are all that lil' Bucky has...

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#231899 Jul 6, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm pretty sure he has one from Ed's School of Macramé and Microbiology.
He's listed there as one of their graduates.
OK. He's listed there as their one graduate. Still....
Good to see you HFY.
So lil' Bucky is a former pro football player who got shot, sent to prison AND has a PhD in Microbiology?

LOL

Oh, this is sad...

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#231900 Jul 6, 2014
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
So lil' Bucky is a former pro football player who got shot, sent to prison AND has a PhD in Microbiology?
LOL
Oh, this is sad...
Don't forget, he's just a simple pig farmer, too.

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#231901 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
So you believe in discriminating against people who don't produce children?
Ah , the crux of the matter ..

The Church isn't here to insure social equality ..it's here to save souls .

And , some discrimination is ' good '..Why aren't I allowed to use the girls restroom ..because , of a measly ' y ' chromosomes ...that's , pretty discriminatory .

Those of you in search of a neighborhood kid to babysit for you ; do you also consider the young men too ...or , only the young women ..Hmmm..?....

Why can't I be a Den Mother , I'm eminently qualified ...?

So yes I discriminate , of the two marriages ; the hetrosexual unions have proven to contribute more to society ..

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#231902 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes.
Well done!
Thanks "Hidingfromyou" ...I NEEDED THAT ..!

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