Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231327 Jun 28, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Great to see you here, Hiding.
Don't be such a stranger.
I kinda sorta hafta be a stranger :(

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231328 Jun 28, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Hello you!
The last time I drank mead I was wearing medieval dress at Warwick Castle.
A snooty person told me our costumes were out of period.
To which I answered that we were dressed as medieval people wearing fancy dress from a different period. So there.
Does your mead leave you with a massive headache? I'm willing to try it again. For science.
<quoted text>
The first mead I tried was miserable, left me with a headache, and turned me off mead until I discussed it with a good friend of mine who brews beer. He said that mead is like any drink, some are good and most are bad. Anyways, he left Japan and left me with his brewing stuff, so I just finished brewing a stout (from a kit, my first time) and decided to brew another stout, but this time stronger, and a mead. I used the yeast from my first go and, wow, were they happy to have new sugars!

I have three 8 liter glass carboys. Two I'm using for the stout, one for mead.

Rather than using wine or champagne yeast, I'm using the stout's ale yeast. The benefits are:
- a much, much faster brew time
- higher temperature tolerance
- much, much less production of the off-compounds that give you headaches. These include acetylaldehyde and dicetyls - you can read about that here: http://www.howtobrew.com/section4/chapter21-2...

- no sulfites (or dramatically reduced to almost nothing)

So I think, but am not quite sure, it won't give me migraines. I'm just like you, though, and get them from many alcohols. Now that I'm learning all this stuff about brewing, I think it's b/c of bad brewing/distilling practices. Especially with the cheaper alcohols - if you want to brew fast, you brew at higher temperatures, use cheaper ingredients produced using pesticides, etc, without lengthy maturation processes that clean up those off-products.

I'll let you know if it turns out headache free! And, if you're interested, I can give you info on the yeast and so on, and even how I did it.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231329 Jun 28, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
i perfectly understand how you think, because "as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the end"!
all y'all multitudes are fulfilling prophecy by being godless morons and this must be close to the end!
thank you for expediting God's plan and for helping me grow in faith!:-)
hahaha! Thanks :)

Just as there were no days of Noah, so there will be no days of fulfilled biblical prophecies.

You can quote me on that, if you like :)

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231330 Jun 28, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
Cheers Hiding!
Hello Rosa! How're you doing???

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231331 Jun 28, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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Most of my socks have been banned.
I still have a few, yes?
Hey cute girl!~

Convert me!

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#231332 Jun 28, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey cute girl!~
Convert me!
You spelled cover wrong.

It's OK. I know what we meant.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#231333 Jun 28, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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You spelled cover wrong.
It's OK. I know what we meant.
Uhm...

ah...

daaaaaaaaar!

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#231334 Jun 28, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Uhm...
ah...
daaaaaaaaar!
I miss my Happy Lesbo sock but it's not about me :)

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#231335 Jun 28, 2014
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
It's jargon and nothing more. It's whatever that christard imagines it to be.
That would of course explain why he holds so much store in made up BS

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#231336 Jun 28, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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I hate to rub it in, but it's been that temperature in the middle of the day here. And this is our winter.
Only recently have the cold winds been blowing, which makes it bitter. It reminds me of this old poem, even though it's the southerly winds that are so cold here.
http://www.bartleby.com/101/610.html
You are rubbing with sandpaper - ;-(

Our balmy high summers, midsummer’s day was 4 days ago, the last decent day we had. We had about a week in the almost 20s to low 20s and no rain for two weeks. For the last three days it’s been overcast with a light wind blowing from the artic (brrrrr) and today we have had showers.

Further south it’s worse, heavy rain, flooding and thunder storms (I feel for Thinking) but it is Glastonbury weekend so it’s excepted. The weather does not usually stop the show but it has done, this weekend…

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainme...

http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/w...

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/7589900...

Good job we are not water soluble
Thinking

Sturminster Newton, UK

#231337 Jun 28, 2014
That doesn't make sense.
Lab28 wrote:
<quoted text>
It would seem so. In a great many things we question why is this part of the plan? Why must we go through such anguish, and suffering? It can be difficult at times to hold on to faith in the midst of peril, when betrayal, or senseless affliction come our way.
But think about it, God loved man enough to give him dominion over the earth. When he created Adam he did three things. He told Adam to name the animals, gave him dominion over the plants and animals, and told him not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. He gave Adam a job, a purpose, and a commandment. Right from the beginning. Any commandment implies choice. God would not have to command anything if we did not have it.
Would you rather not have choice? You have made the choice to walk away, would you rather not have any choice at all? To be compelled to love God? Or perhaps you are wishing for something that we all wish for that just doesn't happen - We want choice, but no consequences for making the wrong choices. But what kind of character does that build?
Is it unfair that God doesn't knock the guns out of the hands of murderers, or strike tyrants dead? But if He did strike tyrants dead, some would judge that to be unfair as well. Should He involve himself more deeply in the lives of men in order to prevent them from being wicked? Or would someone else just complain about His handling of those situations.
Compassion, power. If this is all there is you are absolutely correct, God either can't or won't make our lives supremely happy. But, some of what we are entitled to is not for this life. This life is about being grateful, building character, walking by faith, trusting God, furthering the kingdom and is but the blink of an eye to all that is in store.
Thinking

Sturminster Newton, UK

#231338 Jun 28, 2014
I haven't brewed beer since I was studying mathematics. The beer wasn't too bad, but it created more than a bit of flatulence so I stopped making it. My dad made his own wine but something went wrong with his fermentation locks and there was an explosion in the towel cupboard that got him banned. Is there a poor brewing gene?

I get headaches from white wine, cider and, it would seem, mead. Red wine and beer I can drink and drink without getting a headache. So guess what I drink, then.

Within 5 miles of my village there are 4 pubs that put on beer festivals with 50-100 different barrels to try. I always try a stout or a porter because there are so few of those around these days.

I have every faith that you will create the perfect headache free mead. But I'll probably stick to European red wines, British ales and Irish stouts!
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
The first mead I tried was miserable, left me with a headache, and turned me off mead until I discussed it with a good friend of mine who brews beer. He said that mead is like any drink, some are good and most are bad. Anyways, he left Japan and left me with his brewing stuff, so I just finished brewing a stout (from a kit, my first time) and decided to brew another stout, but this time stronger, and a mead. I used the yeast from my first go and, wow, were they happy to have new sugars!
I have three 8 liter glass carboys. Two I'm using for the stout, one for mead.
Rather than using wine or champagne yeast, I'm using the stout's ale yeast. The benefits are:
- a much, much faster brew time
- higher temperature tolerance
- much, much less production of the off-compounds that give you headaches. These include acetylaldehyde and dicetyls - you can read about that here: http://www.howtobrew.com/section4/chapter21-2...
- no sulfites (or dramatically reduced to almost nothing)
So I think, but am not quite sure, it won't give me migraines. I'm just like you, though, and get them from many alcohols. Now that I'm learning all this stuff about brewing, I think it's b/c of bad brewing/distilling practices. Especially with the cheaper alcohols - if you want to brew fast, you brew at higher temperatures, use cheaper ingredients produced using pesticides, etc, without lengthy maturation processes that clean up those off-products.
I'll let you know if it turns out headache free! And, if you're interested, I can give you info on the yeast and so on, and even how I did it.

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#231339 Jun 28, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Christine! You too :)
Picking up on your post to T

Sounds like you are turning into a proper chemist… Could be all that time in the labs at uni has rubbed off on you…

I used to brew occasionally and true, most are failures, some are pure heaven. My best brews were strawberry wine – wow – tasted like nectar with a kick like a mule. And raisin wine, reminiscent of brandy taste and so smooth, very easy to drink.

I did try mead once, perhaps my worst ever failure, it tasted nothing like shop bought, it6 was dry and bitter, completely undrinkable but it did clean the drains our wonderfully.

I have heard that it is impurities in the brew that cause hangovers and even migraine. Doing it yourself with pure ingredients should get rid of most of that problem.
Thinking

Sturminster Newton, UK

#231340 Jun 28, 2014
Our weather's good between the storms. I was watching Glastonbury out in the garden into the wee small hours until my dog started barking at Win Butler's eye make up. Do love Arcade Fire though, seen them live twice.
ChristineM wrote:
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You are rubbing with sandpaper - ;-(
Our balmy high summers, midsummer’s day was 4 days ago, the last decent day we had. We had about a week in the almost 20s to low 20s and no rain for two weeks. For the last three days it’s been overcast with a light wind blowing from the artic (brrrrr) and today we have had showers.
Further south it’s worse, heavy rain, flooding and thunder storms (I feel for Thinking) but it is Glastonbury weekend so it’s excepted. The weather does not usually stop the show but it has done, this weekend…
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainme...
http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/w...
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/7589900...
Good job we are not water soluble
Lab28

Anaheim, CA

#231341 Jun 28, 2014
Thinking wrote:
That doesn't make sense.
<quoted text>
Is there a specific part that you are having difficulty understanding? Perhaps I could expand on that part.
Thinking

Sturminster Newton, UK

#231342 Jun 28, 2014
Let's start with god's entrapment story.

The Adam and Eve story doesn't make sense. If they were commanded to do something and did not *before* they had knowledge of good and evil, then they were imperfectly designed.

It was the designer's fault.

We had a PM (Brown) that threw fax machines at the wall when they didn't work. He was a psycho, too.

So when is your god going to give his vengeance for his own f**k up a rest?
Lab28 wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there a specific part that you are having difficulty understanding? Perhaps I could expand on that part.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#231343 Jun 28, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Let's start with god's entrapment story.
The Adam and Eve story doesn't make sense. If they were commanded to do something and did not *before* they had knowledge of good and evil, then they were imperfectly designed.
It was the designer's fault.
We had a PM (Brown) that threw fax machines at the wall when they didn't work. He was a psycho, too.
So when is your god going to give his vengeance for his own f**k up a rest?
<quoted text>
Genesis is a cave mans story to tell little children how things came to be, wwhen they should have just told them the truth, Gee son, we really don't have a GD clue how it came to be.
Instead they envisioned the ...
Pack your bags you're going on a guilt trip...cause we know you are sneaky story.
ChristINSANITY is EVIL

Windsor, Canada

#231344 Jun 28, 2014
Lab28 wrote:
<quoted text>
It would seem so. In a great many things we question why is this part of the plan? Why must we go through such anguish, and suffering? It can be difficult at times to hold on to faith in the midst of peril, when betrayal, or senseless affliction come our way.
But think about it, God loved man enough to give him dominion over the earth. When he created Adam he did three things. He told Adam to name the animals, gave him dominion over the plants and animals, and told him not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. He gave Adam a job, a purpose, and a commandment. Right from the beginning. Any commandment implies choice. God would not have to command anything if we did not have it.
Would you rather not have choice? You have made the choice to walk away, would you rather not have any choice at all? To be compelled to love God? Or perhaps you are wishing for something that we all wish for that just doesn't happen - We want choice, but no consequences for making the wrong choices. But what kind of character does that build?
Is it unfair that God doesn't knock the guns out of the hands of murderers, or strike tyrants dead? But if He did strike tyrants dead, some would judge that to be unfair as well. Should He involve himself more deeply in the lives of men in order to prevent them from being wicked? Or would someone else just complain about His handling of those situations.
Compassion, power. If this is all there is you are absolutely correct, God either can't or won't make our lives supremely happy. But, some of what we are entitled to is not for this life. This life is about being grateful, building character, walking by faith, trusting God, furthering the kingdom and is but the blink of an eye to all that is in store.
Thnx for sharing your MYTHOLOGY
Now study other religions and you'll see how silly they and yours is

www.godchecker.com
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#231345 Jun 28, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Genesis is a cave mans story to tell little children how things came to be, wwhen they should have just told them the truth, Gee son, we really don't have a GD clue how it came to be.
Instead they envisioned the ...
Pack your bags you're going on a guilt trip...cause we know you are sneaky story.
.( A)..Well , we understand man and woman ....must procreate ...

( B).Life evolved from the primordial ooze ...We claim clay

(C) Big Bang ...We claim " God " said !".."....boom ..!

(D) the stars and their orbits ...We can all agree , pretty much , are in order ..

(E) Does, Man have dominion ....and , should we (F), be good stewards ...Biblical ..?...yes and yes ..

How about you heathens , take some time and explain to " us " why Genesis is so wrong ..in your eyes ..?

.....I await with abated breath ...

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#231346 Jun 28, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>.( A)..Well , we understand man and woman ....must procreate ...
( B).Life evolved from the primordial ooze ...We claim clay
(C) Big Bang ...We claim " God " said !".."....boom ..!
(D) the stars and their orbits ...We can all agree , pretty much , are in order ..
(E) Does, Man have dominion ....and , should we (F), be good stewards ...Biblical ..?...yes and yes ..
How about you heathens , take some time and explain to " us " why Genesis is so wrong ..in your eyes ..?
.....I await with abated breath ...
GD are you this f&^%ing stupid?
You really don't even have a valid argument that supports your genesis story.
Only a retard could think this is the way it happened.]

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