Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#227788 Apr 30, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>You made the claim every part if Christianity is a copy of other religions.

I took the fundamental identity of Christianity, grace, and asked where it is copied from.

Can you validate your claim, or were you wrong?
You think christianity invented grace?

“Aaaaaaaaaaaaah”

Since: Aug 07

Piscataway

#227789 Apr 30, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever you do don’t tell these people about that miracle.
They will only ridicule & make mockery and try to use it against you.
I have witnessed miracles myself and have seen the vast majority of my prayers answered. And those prayers that weren’t answered were for a reason.
Keep your miracle from them.
Confirmation bias. So, delineate the reason those particular prayers weren't answered.

Were you cognizant that a major coincidence happens on average to a person about once every 35 days. You are not experiencing divine intervention. You are experiencing coincidences you attribute to the god you have conjured up in your mind, one who, curiously, agrees with everything you think.

Why would an omnipotent, who suddenly in 2014, is outside of space and time, get involved in the minutiae of your life? Because you grease the palms of a soft-handed man who,doesn't have to work for a living and who never has to deliver the product he is selling?

“Aaaaaaaaaaaaah”

Since: Aug 07

Piscataway

#227790 Apr 30, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Shepherd
Shepard
Shepherd
(learn to spell)
Internet Corollary 325 - Any post illustrating the spelling or grammar error of another post will contain at least one spelling or grammar error.

You have violated Internet Corollary 325. Please report to your nearest FEMA camp for assimilation. And get your finger out of your nose, man. The NSA is watching you.

“Aaaaaaaaaaaaah”

Since: Aug 07

Piscataway

#227791 Apr 30, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
This kind of comparison research has been going on for decades with race versus intelligence.
Do you believe whites are more intelligent than blacks?
Your fellow white Caucasian Phd Scientist do based on their research.
Do you believe Americans are more intelligent than Vietnamese? You know the Vietnamese showed us in Vietnam they could kick our a** and they did on many occasions even though we had the technological advantage.
I don’t believe any of it Doctor because the research has so many variables. The researchers can literally generate any kind of result they want.
All this research about intelligence versus race or religion is just bull sh*t.
Doctor, you need to divorce yourself from all this bigotry. Humanity is humanity, people are people, and we are all cut from the same cloth, Whites, Blacks, Asians, Atheist, Muslims, Christians……………..
Religiosity is a culturally-conditioned choice. What we call race is not. That you don't see a distinction points to the inculcation of which you are a victim.

“Aaaaaaaaaaaaah”

Since: Aug 07

Piscataway

#227792 Apr 30, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Doctor, "good" and "evil" are biblical terms and you don't believe in the Bible.
You think those terms were invented by the authors of the Bible?

Hahaha.

“Aaaaaaaaaaaaah”

Since: Aug 07

Piscataway

#227793 Apr 30, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Doctor, "good" and "evil" are biblical terms and you don't believe in the Bible.
So, you believe in a book. That makes you an idolater and a cultist.

“Aaaaaaaaaaaaah”

Since: Aug 07

Piscataway

#227794 Apr 30, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
The grand wizard “BenAdam‘s” makes a freaking big deal out of a misspelled word. Then the irreverent jacka** misspells in his freaking reply.[laughing]
Thanks Dave,[laughing]
I guess he chose to be ignorant,[laughing]
Spelling Chihuahua as Chiwawa is a big deal.

Your functional illiteracy shines through each of your posts. You owe the taxpayers of whatever school system you attended a refund for your education. They were victims of fraud.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#227795 Apr 30, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
The two opposing forces, originated in ancient Persia and was a concept Zoroaster concocted over 5,000 years ago. Ahura Mazda (good or light) and Angra Mainyu (evil or dark).
Before that time, dark and light were thought to be one. As we all have both within us and the theory is to accept every aspect ourselves in order to achieve balance. A concept found in Taoism and Buddhism, both of which are older than Zoroastrianism.
Between the origins and medieval times, when christians recycled the concept, Ancient Greece and the rest of the world embraced the terms, which were given western meaning (language wise) by Socrates, Plato and a few other philosophers. Good and evil.
I can't really think of any aspect of christianity that is even remotely original other than the blatant encouragement of ignorance, yet even that can be found in others.
The bible is the op shop of religions and belief is not required to acquire knowledge of any kind, if anything, it is preventative.
Excellent post.

In Judaism, it is believed that humans have a combination of "good" and "evil" and that both need to be in balance.
Totally "good" and you can't survive, totally "evil" and you won't survive.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#227796 Apr 30, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah. Sure. "Eagle slang."
Right. When you don't know how to spell the word.
After 15 years of grading high school essays, I am now able to translate Linear A.

LOL

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Since: Jul 11

There

#227797 Apr 30, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Um, which religions have a external personal agent granting grace as the only means of salvation that Christianity copied from?
Smile.
All of them claim to, none of them do.

Your religion is no different than any others of the last 6000 years.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#227798 Apr 30, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>
Zombies, vampires and ghosts were a large part Roman superstition long before Constantine was born.
They still are.
Christians even made a Zombie and a Ghost Gods.

Christians also perform ritual cannibalism and vampirisn.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#227799 Apr 30, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Dave cleans his house with strings and magnets, if that doesn't get it clean enough he uses EM pulses.
Does Dave have pith balls ?

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#227800 Apr 30, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>You think christianity invented grace?
Because that too, is regurgitated.

Hinduism is over 10,000 years old and that religion also uses the concept of divine grace.

You think your myth is special, it really isn't. It combines concepts, characters and stories from different, older religions. Badly.

“Aaaaaaaaaaaaah”

Since: Aug 07

Piscataway

#227801 Apr 30, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you my friend for your kind words. It goes to show you Atheist are far more tolerant than what people think. I mean you could have said something disparaging. But instead you showed us that Atheist have a moral disposition in dealing with their fellow man.
This is probably why Madalyn Murray O'Hair was murdered by her fellow co-worker, David Waters. A nice man who also had a moral disposition like yourself. He kindly removed $54,000 from the American Atheist Accounts for his own use.
Then he felt so badly about this fund dispersion by his hands. That he felt the need to show Madalyn, Jon her son, and her granddaughter a good time. So he did them a favor and murdered them. Then chopped them up into small pieces. Kind of strange how Atheist deal with their fellow man, strange indeed.
Haha. Wow, just wow. Your theological blinders are hysterical.

The list of Christians behaving badly is endless. Of course, what would you expect from a blood-obsessed death cult that thinks human sacrifice is love and that follows a Semitic Jewish hippie zombie who used Lazarus as a pawn in a disgusting game of self promotion. This Jesus character could easily have arrived in time to prevent the death of his friend. There would have been no need for Lazarus to have experienced the agony of dying. No reason for his sisters to suffer the grief of losing their brother.

But he didn’t.

Why? Quite simply because he wanted to impress people. He wanted to glorify himself and Yahweh. The suffering and death of Lazarus was useful to furthering their agenda. While this sort of behavior might be expected of a North Korean dictator, it is quite nauseating to see it venerated in a religion.

If you try to apologize for your omnipotent that he was too busy to help Lazarus, well then:

When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help.“Lord,” he said,“my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.” Jesus said to him,“Shall I come and heal him?” The centurion replied,“Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed… Then Jesus said to the centurion,“Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.
Matthew 8:5-8, 13 (NIV)

Suddenly, Magic Man didn't need to be present.

Then there is John 9:1-3, where Big and Little Anus Godette divinely orchestrated this man’s birth defect – blindness – so that Jesus and his sociopathic father could look good by healing him.

How could we expect anything less from Christians.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#227802 Apr 30, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I have 8 vacuum cleaners.
Which I could use more often.
Funny that you and sympatico mentalities proclaiming such a worship of science should make fun of my investigation of THE force that has put you, and your thinking, together.
Magnets and strings are a rational methodology to see how it works. It is a force that arises from the construction of this universe and our existence. This is a force that arises and combines on the atomic scale, not a monolithic thingy that just exists. "Magnets" are results of that. EM induction on the atomic level is the real telling nature that created that force.
Simple minds such as yours, will just guffaw and say "Oh, that is just electricity, haven't you read the books? yuk yuk yuk!!" And think you "know" something.
And then call an electrician to change a fuse.
Play with electromagnets to get a better understanding. Look at the "physics" of how this happens, noy words you read in a book and don't understand what is occurring.
Your "knowledge" is like picking up rocks and dropping them in a bag. You think you have something. Your intelligence is on the same order and worth.
BTW, it was a devout Christian that put that force to work for you, not an atheist scientist.
Agreed. Electromagnetic forces are very important... and well documented. I am using it now to post this. No strings attached.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#227803 Apr 30, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>They still are.
Christians even made a Zombie and a Ghost Gods.

Christians also perform ritual cannibalism and vampirisn.
Yep.

Horror movies are way better than that silly old, changed so many times one loses count, babble book.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#227805 Apr 30, 2014
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>Haha. Wow, just wow. Your theological blinders are hysterical.

The list of Christians behaving badly is endless. Of course, what would you expect from a blood-obsessed death cult that thinks human sacrifice is love and that follows a Semitic Jewish hippie zombie who used Lazarus as a pawn in a disgusting game of self promotion. This Jesus character could easily have arrived in time to prevent the death of his friend. There would have been no need for Lazarus to have experienced the agony of dying. No reason for his sisters to suffer the grief of losing their brother.

But he didn’t.

Why? Quite simply because he wanted to impress people. He wanted to glorify himself and Yahweh. The suffering and death of Lazarus was useful to furthering their agenda. While this sort of behavior might be expected of a North Korean dictator, it is quite nauseating to see it venerated in a religion.

If you try to apologize for your omnipotent that he was too busy to help Lazarus, well then:

When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help.“Lord,” he said,“my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.” Jesus said to him,“Shall I come and heal him?” The centurion replied,“Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed… Then Jesus said to the centurion,“Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.
Matthew 8:5-8, 13 (NIV)

Suddenly, Magic Man didn't need to be present.

Then there is John 9:1-3, where Big and Little Anus Godette divinely orchestrated this man’s birth defect – blindness – so that Jesus and his sociopathic father could look good by healing him.

How could we expect anything less from Christians.
Exactly. Then they claim to own the concept of grace. Ha!

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#227806 Apr 30, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, no idea where people got that fascination from.
"Eat my flesh and drink my blood."
- The jesus, once a walking corpse who moved on to being a ghost people "pray" to and wait for.
Rolls eyes.
Jesus used the bread and wine as a symbolic reminder. Christians, once again, twisted it into a disgusting ritual.

“Aaaaaaaaaaaaah”

Since: Aug 07

Piscataway

#227807 Apr 30, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>
Because that too, is regurgitated.
Hinduism is over 10,000 years old and that religion also uses the concept of divine grace.
You think your myth is special, it really isn't. It combines concepts, characters and stories from different, older religions. Badly.
CS Lewis made that unique grace claim. You can't expect Christians to be fact checkers. That's a path to non-theism.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#227808 Apr 30, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>Excellent post.

In Judaism, it is believed that humans have a combination of "good" and "evil" and that both need to be in balance.
Totally "good" and you can't survive, totally "evil" and you won't survive.
Yeah, I think Judaism modernised the concept a bit closer to its original meaning than Zoroaster did.

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