Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#227550 Apr 28, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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I'm an avid gardener Einstein. Plants do in fact respond to stimuli, or as you put it "sense impressions".
Ability to feel? Try researching if carrots really do scream when you pull them from their beds.
The root ends of plants actually FEEL their way around underground objects like rocks. Their growing tips actually contain and retain the ability to move up and down and from side to side in order to find a way to the nutrients they seek. If they find adequate nutrients just below ground level, they stop searching for food unless the source dries up. Then the roots begin searching again.
What do you suppose those vine plants are doing when they send out their "feelers" to secure the stalk to a trellis? Plants are trainable Einstein. I train the melons every year to climb the trellis. Within a matter of a couple minutes, I can prove to you that the plant actually felt it when it touched the wire and begins to physically wrap itself around the wire.
Again, are plants sentient sir?
*siiiiiigh...*

No.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#227551 Apr 28, 2014
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, no. In the Oxford dictionary, from the UK, ahem, fairytale and fairy-tale are acceptable. In the US, according to Webster, it is a hyphenated modifier and written as fairy-tale.
You have never owned a passport. How can you possibly disparage a place you have never been. The UK is wonderful.
I've never owned a passport?

Oh.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#227552 Apr 28, 2014
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>Uh, that's not plagiarism, silly. This is just an insignificant forum, a game. You can believe whatever you want.
I knew that before you told me.

I don't believe you or the site you plagiarized from.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#227553 Apr 28, 2014
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>Uh, that's not plagiarism, silly. This is just an insignificant forum, a game. You can believe whatever you want.
OOPS.

Before you get all anal on me:

I don't believe you or from which site you plagiarized.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#227554 Apr 28, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Wrong and you know it, you fukinliar.
I believe Jesus existed.
I just don't believe all the lies your religion made up about him 300 years after he was crucified.
M'kay pumpkin.

Luv u
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#227555 Apr 28, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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I see.
So then you DO admit that a "real" thing can be "proven" to exist by proxy observations (monitoring brain waves) and not direct "empirical" observation. Dark matter was "proven" to exist in a similar fashion.
Empirical means verifiable by observation. As long as we are talking about events and things in the naturalistic realm, observations are one way of providing evidence. Black holes were proven to exist by the effects they had within the naturalistic realm.

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#227556 Apr 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I've never owned a passport?
Oh.
Have you ever had a passport issued in your name?
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#227557 Apr 28, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Apparently you have an impairment or two.
"Science needs data in order to tell if something really happened. "
Correct. Thank you for proving my point that science is wholly incapable of proving anything at all, unless "traces" of what science accepts as "traces", exist.
Let's say that a person walks across a room, but leaves NO empirical evidence whatsoever in the room. Science is incapable of proving that the person actually walked across the room but yet it happened.
Your little itty bitty box of currently acceptable empirical evidence, leaves science helpless to "discover" what lies beyond it's itty bitty box of proof.
If verifying that this person actually walked into this room was important then science could absolutely verify it. There is alway proof. An investigation into the whereabouts of this person on that particular day, this person being observed by others.

And because there may be instances were science cannot supply an immediate answer does not mean that things that do not exist are suddenly validated.

There is no other reality other than the one you are in. Only the naturalistic realm exits. It is not only impossible, but foolish to attempt to create tools for examining that which is non-existent.

What tools would you use to examine pixie dust? What methodology would you use to discover where NeverNever land is? How does the Cheshire Cat in Alice And Wonderland rearrange his molecular structure?

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#227558 Apr 28, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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No. If he can beat a dead horse, he can beat up my dead father. Ashes don't put up much of a fight.
Incorrect.
That entity which was your Dad no longer exists in this dimension, time, and place. Since that is true, it is impossible to beat up your father, he is not here. there is only an urn of burned matter left as a reminder that he left.
NOTE: Since cremation has taken place there is not even a dead body to beat sir, just ashes.
Like I said ... impossible.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#227559 Apr 28, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>NOW WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS!!!:-)

put your thinking cap on for a min:

do you really want to belong to a weird cult that judges each other by the size of your head and by an ambiguous IQ rating system?!

stick with just being a trekkie since they're much less harmless and probably have better social lives.....
"Much less harmless"?

I think you dropped your IQ.

That's ok. It didn't have far to fall.

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#227560 Apr 28, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Actually none of them did, you didn't know that though huh?
They didn't even write the books they are credited for.
So how do you think any of it is real?
BenAdam wrote:
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"But, but, my minister said they were!" - Christards
What makes it even worse is editors who changed the text, making false entries.
And the mistranslations that change it completely.
But the very worst of it ...is the deliberate additions to satisfy rulers or the monarchs who condoned the additions.

That makes it completely incoherent to what the original text said.
So you end up with what ever someone wanted it to say.
But just WHO was it that said it?
No I Dear!

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#227561 Apr 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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*siiiiiigh...*
No.
Then your definition of sentient needs a rewrite Redneck.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#227562 Apr 28, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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It is a theory. It is called a theory even by the scientists promoting the theory.
<smile>
What proof do you have of the origin of the speech gene? From what "lower" life form does it originate? Why does it not exist in any other life form aside from homo sapien on this planet?
The theory is still full of holes. You know that too.
Sad to see that you are no different from those ignorant enough to proclaim "Evolution is only a theory." Thereby placing yourself in that category of people who have no idea what a theory means, especially a scientific theory.

A scientific theory is the highest point in a scientific discovery. It means that a hypothesis has been tested over and over again, subjected to numerous peer reviews, has survived all attempts at falsification, and has then become the very best explanation, it is now a THEORY and is supported by all of mainstream science. Which is why 99.99% of all scientists world wide, accept evolution as a FACT.

Ask yourself why in 2012 there were 35,000 articles written in support of evolution, and ZERO against.

There may well be aspects of evolution that are still under investigation, but make no mistake, evolution is a FACT, and to deny it is no different from denying gravity, or that the Earth revolves around the sun.

You really should stop reading BS from creationists web sites, it will rot your brain.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#227563 Apr 28, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Empirical means verifiable by observation. As long as we are talking about events and things in the naturalistic realm, observations are one way of providing evidence. Black holes were proven to exist by the effects they had within the naturalistic realm.
Yes,... and ... that is what I have already pointed out. That is how dark matter was "proven".

“The King of R&R”

Since: Dec 07

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#227564 Apr 28, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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Have you ever had a passport issued in your name?
Hey: these rats tried to eliminate me. No luck for them! I am back.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

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#227565 Apr 28, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
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And because there may be instances were science cannot supply an immediate answer does not mean that things that do not exist are suddenly validated.
?
It does not mean that things science "cannot supply an immediate answer " for do not exist either Einstein.
Again, you pre-conclude and declare something is non-existent simply because "science cannot supply an immediate answer "
<SMILE>

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#227566 Apr 28, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
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"Much less harmless"?
I think you dropped your IQ.
That's ok. It didn't have far to fall.
lol! i thought about that mistake after i sent it, then i thought about how you'd strain at the gnat (type-o) and would swallow the camel (miss the whole message) because you're so smart!

you must be what i like to call 'autistic-smart'!

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#227567 Apr 28, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Sad to see that you are no different from those ignorant enough to proclaim "Evolution is only a theory." Thereby placing yourself in that category of people who have no idea what a theory means, especially a scientific theory.
A scientific theory is the highest point in a scientific discovery. It means that a hypothesis has been tested over and over again, subjected to numerous peer reviews, has survived all attempts at falsification, and has then become the very best explanation, it is now a THEORY and is supported by all of mainstream science. Which is why 99.99% of all scientists world wide, accept evolution as a FACT.
Ask yourself why in 2012 there were 35,000 articles written in support of evolution, and ZERO against.
There may well be aspects of evolution that are still under investigation, but make no mistake, evolution is a FACT, and to deny it is no different from denying gravity, or that the Earth revolves around the sun.
You really should stop reading BS from creationists web sites, it will rot your brain.
You fail to read.
I said that it is called a theory. It IS called a theory.

You ASSUME I said it is BS. Evolution is real ... to limitations. I said the theory HAS HOLES. The theory DOES have holes. I did NOT say that it is bunk ya halfwit.

You argue against your own bullsh!t sir.

“The King of R&R”

Since: Dec 07

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#227568 Apr 28, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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"Basic Logic.........either A exists of A doesn't exist, there is NO third choice. There is ONLY one methodology in determining if A exists, and that is the scientific method. Once again if you know of a second method I'll love to hear it."
Quantum mechanics.
Random fluctuations of nothing could have created the universe. Virtual particles that pop in and out of nowhere.
Don't argue with me, argue with your scientists and their method.
So you are still around, you decrepit, old, monster friggin' nitwot of the first order. When 'da frig will you die? We are all certainly waiting, you rotten Liar.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#227569 Apr 28, 2014
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>What exactly have you contributed here except the same ridiculous line?
Jesus is dying on the cross, and Peter is down the hill comforting Mary Magdalene when he hears Jesus' faint voice, "Peter... Peter..."
"I must go and help my Savior," he said and went up the hill, only to be beaten and kicked back down by the Roman centurions guarding the cross. But soon he hears, "Peter... Peter," in even fainter tones but he cannot ignore the call. Peter limps up the hill, leans a ladder against the cross, and gets halfway up when the centurions knock over the ladder, beats him brutally, and tosses him back down the hill.
Again he hears, "Peter... Peter..." ever fainter, and again, he cannot refuse his Lord. In pain, he slowly staggers up the hill, drags himself up the ladder, and finally gets even with Christ's face. Just as the centurions are reaching for the ladder, Jesus says, "Peter... Peter... look, I can see your house from here."
I love to kick at the darkness until it bleeds light.

Or sink the knife of reality to the hilt into the belly of denial and twist it with a smirk.

You alternate between squealing like a stuck pig troll, or running like a punk sissy.

I'm in your head.

Smile.

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